Best combination of strength and cardio

I currently weigh 170 and my goal weight is 155. I've heard that the best thing for weight loss and to shape your body is 3 days of strength and one day of cardio. This makes sense to me if I were at my goal weight and wanted to tone, but I still have 15 lbs to lose, shouldn't I do more cardio? I also stay within my calories and eat them back after cardio.

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  • GiddyupTim
    GiddyupTim Posts: 2,819 Member
    I suspect that everyone is going to tell you to lift more. Lifting is all the rage. I find, however, that lifting does not burn calories for me, and does not result in weight loss. But, I can run and bike pounds off quite easily. I am also much less hungry after cardio than I am after lifting, which makes achieving a calorie deficit easier.
    Course, I am in good shape. i can run 8-10 miles if I want (barring injury), and bike 30-40 miles.
    If you can't do those kind of burns it might be different. But, I don't really think so.
  • lhergenr
    lhergenr Posts: 242 Member
    3 days of lifting is good..Maybe add 15 minutes of HIIT to your workout for 1 or 2 of those days. Then devote one day to cardio only. You'll figure out what works best for you in time.
  • dandandee
    dandandee Posts: 301 Member
    I'm in no way an expert on working out, heck I'm pretty new to it myself, but I find that while lifting is great and super important I need more than 1 day of cardio to see results. 15 pounds is also what I'm aiming to lose and there's no way my body would shed 15 pounds by just lifting. Plus, I enjoy my cardio.

    I try to do 2-3 days of cardio and after I'm done my cardio I move on to lifting. so it's all packed into 1 workout session. Some people like splitting up cardio and lifting but it works for me to have it all in one day.
  • lma0423
    lma0423 Posts: 78 Member
    Ideally I'd like to do 2 days of strength and 3 of cardio, would this be a bad idea?
  • Why not just do a little of both every day?
  • redraidergirl2009
    redraidergirl2009 Posts: 2,560 Member
    Do hiit cardio regularly, it's shorter, but you burns more fat that way. Like tabata sets. You can download an app on your phone for times,
  • CalJur
    CalJur Posts: 627 Member
    Sex. Seriously depends on what you are trying to accomplish.
  • I do 10 min cardio, weight lifting routine and then 30 min on the bike after that... 5 days a week
  • squirrelythegreat
    squirrelythegreat Posts: 158 Member
    What I was always told in university classes was 3 days strength, 5-6 days cardio. Assuming cardio is somewhere in the 40 minutes - 60 minutes range. Cardio being before strength on those days. Maybe its outdated nowadays.
  • taso42
    taso42 Posts: 8,980 Member
    From a strictly body composition standpoint you need exactly ZERO cardio.

    Strength training is king. Cardio has benefits for your heart and endurance.

    I wouldn't drop to less than 3x/week of strength training. Add cardio per your preference. Just make sure to feed appropriately.
  • Try lifting heavy and then try telling me that lifting isn't cardio in and of itself. I have to take a knee between squat sets to catch my breath.

    Slow, steady state cardio is very detrimental to strength building, and it is usually not recommended to do both if you are serious about gaining strength and recompositioning your body. HIIT, sprints, that kind of cardio does not have the same detrimental effects on strength and typically speaking has more benefits anyways.

    But it all depends on your fitness goals. If you want to look better naked, lifting heavy will get you there most efficiently. If you want to run a marathon or are obsessed with the number on the scale, your goals will be different.
  • vanguardfitness
    vanguardfitness Posts: 720 Member
    resistance training with compound lifts and maybe 1 or 2 days of cardio is enough. The fat loss has more to do with diet.
  • realdog2usa
    realdog2usa Posts: 29 Member
    I do 1 hr cardio everyday ... your heart is a muscle that must be exercised.... what does my 1 hour consist of... right now, I love the outdoors, but it's winter & I discovered 10 months ago that I love Zumba so I'm currently doing Zumba 5 to 6 times a week until the spring thaw when I can do more outdoor activities. I have been getting one, 1 hr hike in each week, more in warmer months. I've been slack in going to gym. ... 1 hr a week on elliptical machine, This month (2) sculpting classes (per week) with weights and finally 1 or 2 Dance Fitness classes - Salsa & Reggaeton (in a week). This IS my week and I start all over with a new week, and so far this year, NO DAYS OFF, I ask myself when it gets tough... HOW BAD DO I WANT IT... ???

    I'm aware that I need to work on strength training... I do 100 sit-ups each night (past 2 months) holding a 4 lb. medicine ball behind my head... I started the Jillian 30 day shred first of December and after 2 or 3 days I came down with the flu which knocked me down for almost 2 weeks...

    I've been back on board and going strong since the New Year Holiday with "NO DAYS OFF" and hour cardio everyday ... I've not become extremely fatigued... I switch around my actities to prevent that from happening. OH, I also bicycle, you will burn an insane amount of calories on a bike... try it wearing a heart rate monitor.

    My personal fitness campaign began Mar 1st last year... My personal trainer took my measurements tonight, compared to mid April last year there are significant results in every area.... I'm far from finished... Miles to go before I sleep! hahahha I love myself, love what I see in the mirror, love my new 32" Levi jeans (down from the one 38" dress pants I wore to Church on Sundays, wore shorts all the other days). I love my new lifestyle... I now live to be healthy... and the best part is I'm not finished...

    So what's the right mix of cardio - strength... I'd say cardio most days... perhaps 3 or 4 days alternating strength 2 to 3 times a week. You'll find what works... Just keep moving... :) moving in the right direction... strive for progress not perfection!

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  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
    I currently weigh 170 and my goal weight is 155. I've heard that the best thing for weight loss and to shape your body is 3 days of strength and one day of cardio. This makes sense to me if I were at my goal weight and wanted to tone, but I still have 15 lbs to lose, shouldn't I do more cardio? I also stay within my calories and eat them back after cardio.

    so you're going to do more cardio, but then on cardio days you're going to eat all your calories back to net zero? Do you see where I'm going with this? If you can't meet your calorie goal without doing cardio, then by all means do it. But if you can hit your calorie goal without doing, why would you do it?

    (And before 16 people chime in with a chorus of "BUT IT'S GOOD FOR YOUR HAWWT!!", she asked about getting "tone", not getting ready for a 10k or the Heart Rate Olympics)
  • BusyRaeNOTBusty
    BusyRaeNOTBusty Posts: 7,166 Member
    I do 2-3 days lifting. 2-3 days cardio.
  • lma0423
    lma0423 Posts: 78 Member
    Thanks for all the replies! So since I'm not obsessed with the number on the scale and would rather see my body change I guess I will stick with 3 days of strength training and a day of HIIT cardio. From what I understand, if I strength train and do too much cardio I'm kinda taking away from the strength training.
  • I run and do HIIT style workouts. I think it's improtant to figure out what works for you.
  • sarahstrezo
    sarahstrezo Posts: 568 Member
    Thanks for all the replies! So since I'm not obsessed with the number on the scale and would rather see my body change I guess I will stick with 3 days of strength training and a day of HIIT cardio. From what I understand, if I strength train and do too much cardio I'm kinda taking away from the strength training.

    If you are serious about this....lift. And lift Heavy.

    I've been running since April of 2012 and I got down to what I thought was my "goal weight"...and guess what...I was not happy with how my body looked naked. I assumed that once I hit my "goal weight", I'd have the body I pictured in my head. Not so. So....in September, I started lifting heavy and THAT is giving me the body I had in mind. Slowly, but surely...I'm seeing the results I am after. No...the scale is not moving incredibly fast, BUT....my measurements are changing and my body is changing for the better.
    I lift heavy 3 days a week doing mostly compound lifts. I do small amounts of cardio after if my legs have any strength left...maybe 10-15 minutes. Then, I try to get a 3-4 mile run in at least once on the weekend.
  • Goal_Seeker_1988
    Goal_Seeker_1988 Posts: 1,619 Member
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  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    I currently weigh 170 and my goal weight is 155. I've heard that the best thing for weight loss and to shape your body is 3 days of strength and one day of cardio. This makes sense to me if I were at my goal weight and wanted to tone, but I still have 15 lbs to lose, shouldn't I do more cardio? I also stay within my calories and eat them back after cardio.

    You eat less doing the lifting, because it burns less, if you want to keep the same deficit anyway. And this assures it's fat loss, not muscle that cardio only would be prone to cause.

    So eat back what MFP gives as lifting estimate, not HRM, which is invalid for calorie burns for anaerobic exercise.

    Oh, skip the HIIT advice, you will already be doing lifting. HIIT is like lifting for sport specific. Don't waste your time on a different anaerobic exercise you probably actually won't get the most out of anyway - if you did the lifting correctly.
  • ChrissieP80
    ChrissieP80 Posts: 112 Member
    The best thing for weight loss is eating at a deficit and/or cardio to burn calories. It is possible to lose weight (quite rapidly) from eating at a deficit alone. But you are losing lean body mass as well as fat.

    The scale is not the only thing that matters. If you care about shape and 'firmness', you should do strength exercises too. And although they do not burn as many calories at the time of doing the exercise, the after-burn and effects of raising your BMR from building more muscle (muscle = more metabolically active than fat) are not to be discounted.
  • MetilHed
    MetilHed Posts: 101 Member
    Remember that a great benefit to (and reason for) lifting while losing weight is the preservation of muscle you already have.
  • You're right - slow steady-state cardio (going for a 5 mile run, for example) is very detrimental to strength gains. Take a look at marathon runners then take a look at sprinters. Completely different bodies, right? If you're running for a long time at low intensity, it is beneficial to lose any and all mass, so slow steady state cardio causes you to lose muscle mass as well as fat, and usually doesn't change your percentage body fat much if at all. HIIT, sprints, that kind of thing require you to be stronger in order to get better, and so will help to preserve muscle mass.

    So if you want to do cardio without hurting your gainz, make it intense :)
    But you can skip it altogether if you want. Right now I'm completely focused on strength building, so that's all I do and I'm having great results. But eventually I will add in sprints because it's something I want to be good at.
  • 4mrunner
    4mrunner Posts: 6 Member
    Do both...continue to mix it up and cross-train. Shock your muscles, they have a lot of memory. Lift one day, do cardio the next. Do some HIIT training, do some endurance training, mix up your lifting exercises, reps and weights. But you do need to lift weight if you want to put on muscle or at least keep what you have. The more muscle you have, the higher your metabolism is.
  • kdiamond
    kdiamond Posts: 3,329 Member
    From a strictly body composition standpoint you need exactly ZERO cardio.

    Strength training is king. Cardio has benefits for your heart and endurance.

    I wouldn't drop to less than 3x/week of strength training. Add cardio per your preference. Just make sure to feed appropriately.

    I agree with this. I do a little cardio just to keep my heart healthy, but you can bet your *kitten* I'm not spending hours on the dreadmill...20 minutes of HIIT 2x a week will do it...I'd rather spend my time lifting and my body looks better that way anyway. Calories can be controlled through diet.