Cal goal using TDEE: I have a question! Please help.
aimeeernest
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So based on my TDEE calculated here: http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/ ......I have a question.
Say my TDEE is 2000. If I eat 2000 and burn 1500 one day and my NET is 500, is that okay since I am not supposed to eat my exercise cals when using TDEE goals?
Just want to clear up confusion, I know many get upset when they see a low NET
Say my TDEE is 2000. If I eat 2000 and burn 1500 one day and my NET is 500, is that okay since I am not supposed to eat my exercise cals when using TDEE goals?
Just want to clear up confusion, I know many get upset when they see a low NET
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You can't have a TDEE of 2000 if you burn 1500 calories a day in exercise unless your BMR is less than 500 calories.
TDEE should INCLUDE your exercise.0 -
Definetely not ok for your health to net 500.0
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your TDEE should be way higher then.0
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You can't have a TDEE of 2000 if you burn 1500 calories a day in exercise unless your BMR is less than 500 calories.
TDEE should INCLUDE your exercise.
THIS! You can't have a total expenditure of 2000 if you told the calculator you burn 1500 a day exercising etc. TDEE would be more like 3000+0 -
Reply with what you are filling in for the first 8 steps. Someone with knowledge more than me can do the calculations on the web site and then give you good advice.0
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I'm guessing she put in 1-3 hours light exercise a week? Doesn't add up. If you are burning 1500 cals a day that's not light exercise :P0
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How many times are you doing this level of burn? Is it a one off? What are you doing to get something this high?0
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And, if you randomly worked off 1500 cals more than you would normally (just a weird one day thing, like a big hike), then your TDEE for that day is gonna be 3500 calories and you should eat to your TDEE (or if losing weight TDEE- 15-20%)0
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I am guessing these are for random crazy high days that aren't normal.
I would like an answer as well. I have mine set to how I work out. But once a month my husband and I take a nice long hike up and down the levees near the river. Some of those hikes end up being 5-6 hours long, and I end up burning quite a bit of calories. I dont' calculate that in because that is not my normal work out routine. I am guessing I would just go back and recalculate for that week and eat that much for only that day, but want clearification before I do that.
I am hoping this is what she means, lol.0 -
Probably sprinting the length of an air craft carrier.How many times are you doing this level of burn? Is it a one off? What are you doing to get something this high?0 -
If you're doing a TDEE-based approach, log your exercise as "1 calorie", or don't even both logging it here.
If you're regularly burning 1500 cals through exercise, then your TDEE is obviously higher than 2000. But I am assuming the numbers in your post where just throw out there for the sake of discussion.0 -
If you're doing a TDEE-based approach, log your exercise as "1 calorie", or don't even both logging it here.
If you're regularly burning 1500 cals through exercise, then your TDEE is obviously higher than 2000. But I am assuming the numbers in your post where just throw out there for the sake of discussion.
But what if it isn't regular? For example, my situation? Hiking the 9 miles up and down levees, hills, etc... Sure I maintained a slower pace, 2.5. But I still burned a lot of calories, and that was from my HRM. I am guessing you just go back and recalculate for that day only, yes?0 -
Lol, oh man, that was just an example! I just wanted easy numbers to work with....
So then you mean, if my TDEE is 2000 and I burn (TODAY, because every day is different for me) 1500, I should consume 3500???
When I hear "TDEE includes exercise" does that mean I eat my MFP exercise cals? Or do I ignore my exercise cals and net cals (on MFP) and just shoot for my TDEE in cosumed cals based on the calculations I made on another website?
Today I burned just over 1000 which is a little higher than normal for me.... my goal is 500cals 5 days a week, but sometimes I do less, sometimes I do more.
My BMR is 1581
My TDEE is 2174
My TDEE-20% is 1739
Today I consumed 1624 and burned 1095 at the gym. (more than normal, good day) This left me with a net on MFP of 529.
Where do I go wrong if my TDEE is supposed to INCLUDE my average level of activity already?
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I wouldn't. As he said, log as 1 calorie. Look at the big picture. Now, if you start doing it once a week, I would change my TDEE. If it's once in a while, then don't change anything.If you're doing a TDEE-based approach, log your exercise as "1 calorie", or don't even both logging it here.
If you're regularly burning 1500 cals through exercise, then your TDEE is obviously higher than 2000. But I am assuming the numbers in your post where just throw out there for the sake of discussion.
But what if it isn't regular? For example, my situation? Hiking the 9 miles up and down levees, hills, etc... Sure I maintained a slower pace, 2.5. But I still burned a lot of calories, and that was from my HRM. I am guessing you just go back and recalculate for that day only, yes?0 -
If you're doing a TDEE-based approach, log your exercise as "1 calorie", or don't even both logging it here.
If you're regularly burning 1500 cals through exercise, then your TDEE is obviously higher than 2000. But I am assuming the numbers in your post where just throw out there for the sake of discussion.
But what if it isn't regular? For example, my situation? Hiking the 9 miles up and down levees, hills, etc... Sure I maintained a slower pace, 2.5. But I still burned a lot of calories, and that was from my HRM. I am guessing you just go back and recalculate for that day only, yes?
Just eat some extra for that day.
HRM calorie burn minus the BMR that was going to happen for that time anyway (BMR / 1440 * minutes of activity).
Then take the same 15-20% deficit off of it. Just as if it had been part of the daily TDEE with deficit.0 -
If you're doing a TDEE-based approach, log your exercise as "1 calorie", or don't even both logging it here.
If you're regularly burning 1500 cals through exercise, then your TDEE is obviously higher than 2000. But I am assuming the numbers in your post where just throw out there for the sake of discussion.
But what if it isn't regular? For example, my situation? Hiking the 9 miles up and down levees, hills, etc... Sure I maintained a slower pace, 2.5. But I still burned a lot of calories, and that was from my HRM. I am guessing you just go back and recalculate for that day only, yes?
Nice hike! If this was a one-off it won't really affect your long term results one way or another. If you're extra hungry, eat a little more than usual (or a lot more than usual if you want). I personally wouldn't bother going back and trying to itemize some specific # of calories extra to eat on this day. That's the beauty of taking the TDEE-based approach - it frees us from some of this logging "busy work"0 -
Yeah some days I randomly burn a ton of calories, and I will also take a day off and burn nothing over my base living cals.... that's why I just put light exercise because it was also on a BODY BUILDING website so I imagine "moderate" and "strenuous" are MUCH more active than MY "moderate" level. lol. My workout looks like a lot of people's warm-ups.0
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If you are going by TDEE no need to log calories on here as it is already apart of your TDEE. If you are going by BMR log your calories on here and MFP will tell you what you've burnt and how many extra calories you can eat. I do BMR but I don't log it and I don't eat back exercise calories.0
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I wouldn't. As he said, log as 1 calorie. Look at the big picture. Now, if you start doing it once a week, I would change my TDEE. If it's once in a while, then don't change anything.If you're doing a TDEE-based approach, log your exercise as "1 calorie", or don't even both logging it here.
If you're regularly burning 1500 cals through exercise, then your TDEE is obviously higher than 2000. But I am assuming the numbers in your post where just throw out there for the sake of discussion.
But what if it isn't regular? For example, my situation? Hiking the 9 miles up and down levees, hills, etc... Sure I maintained a slower pace, 2.5. But I still burned a lot of calories, and that was from my HRM. I am guessing you just go back and recalculate for that day only, yes?
Okay...here is where I am getting that question from. My TDEE is 2300...so I am eating at 1800. I know don't eat back exercise calories and stuff. I get that part.
On the 6th of January, my husband did our normal monthly hike. We do it once a month only, because of my work schedule, his, etc....there is no way I can do it every week. So that day, on the 6th, I did 9 miles up and down steep levees. My HRM had be as having burned about 2k calories from that hike alone. So you are telling me I still only eat the 1800? Even though I just burned 2k? Just clerifying...lol. And I still "count" the calories on here, I just ignore them (exercises I mean). Some people are able to multi-task like that lol.0 -
So if my cals are all over the place and I don't know HOW to even go about calculating my TDEE, should I just take my BMR and then eat my exercise cals? I noticed a lot of people on MFP are doing that.
I just want to do this right. lol0 -
I wouldn't. As he said, log as 1 calorie. Look at the big picture. Now, if you start doing it once a week, I would change my TDEE. If it's once in a while, then don't change anything.If you're doing a TDEE-based approach, log your exercise as "1 calorie", or don't even both logging it here.
If you're regularly burning 1500 cals through exercise, then your TDEE is obviously higher than 2000. But I am assuming the numbers in your post where just throw out there for the sake of discussion.
But what if it isn't regular? For example, my situation? Hiking the 9 miles up and down levees, hills, etc... Sure I maintained a slower pace, 2.5. But I still burned a lot of calories, and that was from my HRM. I am guessing you just go back and recalculate for that day only, yes?
Okay...here is where I am getting that question from. My TDEE is 2300...so I am eating at 1800. I know don't eat back exercise calories and stuff. I get that part.
On the 6th of January, my husband did our normal monthly hike. We do it once a month only, because of my work schedule, his, etc....there is no way I can do it every week. So that day, on the 6th, I did 9 miles up and down steep levees. My HRM had be as having burned about 2k calories from that hike alone. So you are telling me I still only eat the 1800? Even though I just burned 2k? Just clerifying...lol. And I still "count" the calories on here, I just ignore them. Some people are able to multi-task like that lol.
I vote yes - your body can make some improvements from that workout if it's fed properly. You may not make up enough of the glucose burned before your next workout then. That would be bad.0 -
If you are going by TDEE no need to log calories on here as it is already apart of your TDEE. If you are going by BMR log your calories on here and MFP will tell you what you've burnt and how many extra calories you can eat. I do BMR but I don't log it and I don't eat back exercise calories.
see i thought i understood and then I read this. lol. So... do YOU just aim for your BMR regardless of what you burn?0 -
So if my cals are all over the place and I don't know HOW to even go about calculating my TDEE, should I just take my BMR and then eat my exercise cals? I noticed a lot of people on MFP are doing that.
I just want to do this right. lol
Not BMR, that's too low.
Sedentary with 15-20% deficit. And then exercise calories with same deficit.
Spreadsheet linked in this topic - MFP Tweak tab for exactly this situation.
Still fill out the Activity calculator with whatever is normal and done, and then go to MFP Tweak tab.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/813720-spreadsheet-bmr-tdee-deficit-macro-calcs-hrm-zones0 -
"And I still "count" the calories on here, I just ignore them (exercises I mean). Some people are able to multi-task like that lol. "
this is what I have been doing and people are freaking out about my artificially low NET0 -
If you are going by TDEE no need to log calories on here as it is already apart of your TDEE. If you are going by BMR log your calories on here and MFP will tell you what you've burnt and how many extra calories you can eat. I do BMR but I don't log it and I don't eat back exercise calories.
see i thought i understood and then I read this. lol. So... do YOU just aim for your BMR regardless of what you burn?
I would avoid that advice - she said she eats BMR and logs no exercise and does no eat back.0 -
So if my cals are all over the place and I don't know HOW to even go about calculating my TDEE, should I just take my BMR and then eat my exercise cals? I noticed a lot of people on MFP are doing that.
I just want to do this right. lol
It's really not rocket science. Pick an activity level. Usually there's only a few to choose from - Sedentary, Light Exercise, Moderate Exercise, Heavy Exercise.. Take your best honest guess. (I'm really nitpicky and indecisive so I do both Moderate and Heavy and average them together). After several weeks, you can re-evaluate and fine tune if need be. Oh, and you can leave your HRM at home from now on. It's very liberating.0 -
If you are going by TDEE no need to log calories on here as it is already apart of your TDEE. If you are going by BMR log your calories on here and MFP will tell you what you've burnt and how many extra calories you can eat. I do BMR but I don't log it and I don't eat back exercise calories.
see i thought i understood and then I read this. lol. So... do YOU just aim for your BMR regardless of what you burn?
Yup I do
I do things backwards and what works for me lol. When I log my exercise MFP tells me off for netting under 1200 cals, just a pain in the butt so I don't log any exercise 
I couldn't genuinely guess what my TDEE is. It would differ day to day 0 -
If you are going by TDEE no need to log calories on here as it is already apart of your TDEE. If you are going by BMR log your calories on here and MFP will tell you what you've burnt and how many extra calories you can eat. I do BMR but I don't log it and I don't eat back exercise calories.
see i thought i understood and then I read this. lol. So... do YOU just aim for your BMR regardless of what you burn?
Yup I do I do things backwards and what works for me lol. When I log my exercise MFP tells me off for netting under 1200 cals, just a pain in the butt so I don't log any exercise I couldn't genuinely guess what my TDEE is. It would differ day to day
It's an average. And you CAN genuinely guess it. In fact, you can compute it empirically based on the past 8 weeks (say) of your daily calorie intake vs the difference in your weight.0 -
If you are going by TDEE no need to log calories on here as it is already apart of your TDEE. If you are going by BMR log your calories on here and MFP will tell you what you've burnt and how many extra calories you can eat. I do BMR but I don't log it and I don't eat back exercise calories.
see i thought i understood and then I read this. lol. So... do YOU just aim for your BMR regardless of what you burn?
I would avoid that advice - she said she eats BMR and logs no exercise and does no eat back.
Yes I said what I do BUT I also said that other people do eat BMR and EAT BACK exercise calories. I personally do exercise to burn more calories, not exercise so I can eat more0 -
I wouldn't. As he said, log as 1 calorie. Look at the big picture. Now, if you start doing it once a week, I would change my TDEE. If it's once in a while, then don't change anything.If you're doing a TDEE-based approach, log your exercise as "1 calorie", or don't even both logging it here.
If you're regularly burning 1500 cals through exercise, then your TDEE is obviously higher than 2000. But I am assuming the numbers in your post where just throw out there for the sake of discussion.
But what if it isn't regular? For example, my situation? Hiking the 9 miles up and down levees, hills, etc... Sure I maintained a slower pace, 2.5. But I still burned a lot of calories, and that was from my HRM. I am guessing you just go back and recalculate for that day only, yes?
Okay...here is where I am getting that question from. My TDEE is 2300...so I am eating at 1800. I know don't eat back exercise calories and stuff. I get that part.
On the 6th of January, my husband did our normal monthly hike. We do it once a month only, because of my work schedule, his, etc....there is no way I can do it every week. So that day, on the 6th, I did 9 miles up and down steep levees. My HRM had be as having burned about 2k calories from that hike alone. So you are telling me I still only eat the 1800? Even though I just burned 2k? Just clerifying...lol. And I still "count" the calories on here, I just ignore them. Some people are able to multi-task like that lol.
I vote yes - your body can make some improvements from that workout if it's fed properly. You may not make up enough of the glucose burned before your next workout then. That would be bad.
Roger, doger. Just wanted some clerity lol. I think I will stick with your advice and then if still hungry eat sensibly and log it all.0
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