If you work in food service....(Offensive)
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Clearly I'm taking some heat for my position ...
But to the people who think I can't be nice, or I'm belittling the poor helpless bartender ...
Let me first just say that I personally think I'm exceedingly polite and courteous and always respectful of the people who serve me in restaurants, or pump my gas, or check me out at the grocery store, or that I even just meet on the street. I don't even talk smack to people on the internet ...
But I will defend myself in this instance.
First off, I live in Oregon. State law prohibits an employer from reducing an employees wage below the minimum level to account for tips. So that guy was paid an hourly wage to do a job. Any tips he makes are a bonus.
I walked in, walked up to the bar, ordered a drink, at which time I was told how much that would cost, I subsequently paid for my drink and moved on. I literally took up maybe one minute of that guy's time. Later, when I decided I wanted another drink, I returned to the bar only to have the bartender refuse to serve me, and not only that give me a lecture on how I'm somehow a bad person for not tipping?!? Fine. I left.
In his his capacity as a representative of his employer and that establishment, he has failed. His selfish attitude has cost that business a paying customer, all because he can't line his own pocket with an extra dollar. And yet ... I'm the a-hole? I refuse to accept that. If I really wanted to be an a-hole, I would have called his employer the next day to complain (which I would have been fully justified in doing). But I didn't ... I moved on.
As to the comment that I am in someway belittling these "customer service" people ... I just don't buy it. I'm not saying they don't work hard for their money. What I am saying is that literally anybody can walk in off the street and with a minimum amount of training, they can perform that job. As I previously stated, I worked in the food service industry for YEARS, so I have some perspective here. We pay lawyers and doctors a premium for the services they render because they are highly skilled. We pay waitresses and fast food employees a minimum because they are unskilled. That's just the way it works.
To suggest that everybody should arbitrarily tip these people an additional 15% to 20% percent indicates that what you are really suggesting is increasing the minim wage, or perhaps welfare reform, which would actually be a more fair way to manage the issue, considering that the poor *kitten* who slave away all day in the kitchen at McDonalds or Burger King aren't fortunate enough to be deemed tip-worthy by society.0 -
To suggest that everybody should arbitrarily tip these people an additional 15% to 20% percent indicates that what you are really suggesting is increasing the minim wage, or perhaps welfare reform, which would actually be a more fair way to manage the issue, considering that the poor *kitten* who slave away all day in the kitchen at McDonalds or Burger King aren't fortunate enough to be deemed tip-worthy by society.
Those poor *kitten* make $5.12 more per hour than most servers in the US. If you're a server working a 6 hour shift, that means you have to bring home over $30.00 in tips to even out. Sounds easy enough, right? Well, with more and more folks "saving money" by cutting the tip instead of the amount of times they go out to eat, it's definitely not nearly as easy as it sounds, especially at a casual dining restaurant. Even servers at BUFFETS generally make $2.13 an hour. And those folks do a hell of a lot more work than a typical server (I know, because I was a server at a buffet when I was 15-16).
Plus, those poor fast food *kitten* could walk into a restaurant off the street and get a job as a server if they really wanted, right?
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I tip 15%. 20% is getting pretty high. When we go out for a meal, it is generally a pretty healthy tab and the restaurant is making good money from me. It is amazing to think that they would pay their staff $2.00 an hour because they expect their customers to supplement the payroll ...think about it.... Where else do the customer supplement the payroll? You go to the grocery store, you don't have to tip the check out girl. You buy a pair of shoes, you don't tip the clerk. Perhaps restaurant owners shouldn't be so greedy
It's not the restaurant owners, it's state laws.0 -
Clearly I'm taking some heat for my position ...
But to the people who think I can't be nice, or I'm belittling the poor helpless bartender ...
Let me first just say that I personally think I'm exceedingly polite and courteous and always respectful of the people who serve me in restaurants, or pump my gas, or check me out at the grocery store, or that I even just meet on the street. I don't even talk smack to people on the internet ...
But I will defend myself in this instance.
First off, I live in Oregon. State law prohibits an employer from reducing an employees wage below the minimum level to account for tips. So that guy was paid an hourly wage to do a job. Any tips he makes are a bonus.
I walked in, walked up to the bar, ordered a drink, at which time I was told how much that would cost, I subsequently paid for my drink and moved on. I literally took up maybe one minute of that guy's time. Later, when I decided I wanted another drink, I returned to the bar only to have the bartender refuse to serve me, and not only that give me a lecture on how I'm somehow a bad person for not tipping?!? Fine. I left.
Yeah, that guy was just a jerk. No one should ever say anything like that to a guest. A good server/bartender chalks it up as a loss and moves on.As to the comment that I am in someway belittling these "customer service" people ... I just don't buy it. I'm not saying they don't work hard for their money. What I am saying is that literally anybody can walk in off the street and with a minimum amount of training, they can perform that job. As I previously stated, I worked in the food service industry for YEARS, so I have some perspective here. We pay lawyers and doctors a premium for the services they render because they are highly skilled. We pay waitresses and fast food employees a minimum because they are unskilled. That's just the way it works.
That's quite an insult. You think it doesn't take skill to deal with people day in and day out? Sure, it's not rocket science by any means, but to be able to do it long enough and make a living from it takes skill. Patience with dealing with rude people, children who destroy your station, parents who let children destroy their station, people who have no manners, people who don't know what they are ordering then b*tch at you when it came out "wrong", though it's exactly as they ordered it, and to do it with a smile because there's not much you can do about it but just take it? Yeah, that takes skill.
But I'm not 100% biased. Sure there are bad servers, the ones who don't care and are rude. Yep, they don't deserve much, and they give exceptional servers like me a bad name.
That being said, I love my job and I am happy every day to go there. Seriously.
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As other people have said we don't tip in the same way in the UK, we have minimum wage laws that would not allow someone to work for peanuts and have to 'top up' their wages, BUT we do tip GOOD service, I leave a tip almost every time i eat out, although it is not to any calculated amount (my Canadian husband STILL can't get his head round this and wants to start working out 20% etc and says oh and more if we had alcohol) we DON'T do it like that obviously. Also we have what is known as service charge that is included in the bill, this is like a calculated amount but it is part of the bill. We don't routinely tip bar staff, but people do say 'have one yourself' and staff will take the amount a drink would cost from the money the customer offers (my son has a weekend and evening job as a KP in a country pub and every month they divide up the tips, this is made up from the money left behind the bar and tips left on tables from food customers) I tip my hairdresser as I like how my hair is done and I enjoy the service, people routinely tip taxi drivers too.
I don't earn a lot, and nobody tips me when I do a good job, I worked in the service industry for a company that absolutely refused to allow us to accept tips or gifts etc and we gave good service because it was our job to do so, we got mystery shopped once a month and if we got mentioned as giving 'excellent service' (this was amazingly hard as the company had incredibly hard standards) you generally got given a reward of some kind, I had a box of chocolates once, and a bottle of wine another time and once I was given an orchid lol.
I found it very odd in the States and Canada at how you are expected to tip despite the service, just for people doing their job. But I am aware of the reason, but lots of people have very low paid jobs and do them well and don't get any kind of tip or reward or bonus and it's about time the system recognised that and people were paid a minimum wage that did not mean that tips became something you do regardless.0 -
I tip 15%. 20% is getting pretty high. When we go out for a meal, it is generally a pretty healthy tab and the restaurant is making good money from me. It is amazing to think that they would pay their staff $2.00 an hour because they expect their customers to supplement the payroll ...think about it.... Where else do the customer supplement the payroll? You go to the grocery store, you don't have to tip the check out girl. You buy a pair of shoes, you don't tip the clerk. Perhaps restaurant owners shouldn't be so greedy
It's not the restaurant owners, it's state laws.
I don't know about state laws...I am a Canadian.0 -
That's quite an insult. You think it doesn't take skill to deal with people day in and day out? Sure, it's not rocket science by any means, but to be able to do it long enough and make a living from it takes skill. Patience with dealing with rude people, children who destroy your station, parents who let children destroy their station, people who have no manners, people who don't know what they are ordering then b*tch at you when it came out "wrong", though it's exactly as they ordered it, and to do it with a smile because there's not much you can do about it but just take it? Yeah, that takes skill.
It's doubtful we are going to agree on this, but I'll attempt to clarify my position.
It is not my intent to be insulting, but as they say, patience is a virtue, not a skill. The dictionary seems to agree with me in this case, as the primary definition of unskilled is "of or pertaining to workers who lack technical training or skill."
I'd say on average, food service employees work harder than doctors. That is to say, their job is more laborious. That does not mean that a food service worker could perform the tasks as a physician. However, I would say that a physician could perform the same tasks as a food service worker. In fact, I know a physician who retired, and to stay active, got a job at the local sandwich shop. He works there to this day, making sandwiches, and you'd never know he was a doctor if nobody told you. I suspect though, that if one of his coworkers decided to give up their life of sandwich making and open up a medical practice, their lack of training would be sorely evident.
A person's occupation should not determine how we treat them. Every body deserves respect, and compassion, and kindness. But it should determine how much they are paid. It's the basic principal our society is founded on. And, while I have nothing but the utmost respect for food service workers (or any workers for that matter), I don't think it's our responsibility as consumers to supplement their income directly.
But the playing field needs to be even. I think it's unfair for a state to allow employers to pay those employees who might receive tips less than the minimum wage, but once again ... in my state (Oregon) that is illegal.0 -
And, while I have nothing but the utmost respect for food service workers (or any workers for that matter), I don't think it's our responsibility as consumers to supplement their income directly.
But the playing field needs to be even. I think it's unfair for a state to allow employers to pay those employees who might receive tips less than the minimum wage, but once again ... in my state (Oregon) that is illegal.
Well, until laws change, that's the way it is. I guess we'll just have to respectfully agree to disagree.0 -
It may be unfair, but its still a reality. If the min wage is increased and the cost of the food goes up to cover it, there will be a whole new set of complainers. Its not the servers fault.
I wouldn't mind if the tip was included in my bill, but many people would. I don't mind paying an "unskilled" person for making my drink. Hey, the better you tip, the better your drink is. Thats bar science. :drinker: I'd rather help my bartender pay for his/her education than pay for my doctor to spend the summer in the Hamptons..
I'm just sayin......0 -
I'm so glad all the people in the comments are calling her out about her completely ridiculous behavior. Food service is awful to work in. You have to work your *kitten* off AND put up with people like that. You pay the resaurant for the food and the service people of bringing it and cleaning it for you. Period.0
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3- to those people that think this is a flawed system...yes it is, but it allows the restaurant to keep the food prices low and allows them to be open for longer hours.
It allows the restaurant to look good by displaying a lower printed price on the menu for the food....at the end of the day, the tip is still an out of pocket cost for me. That meal is now 10-25% higher in cost than it looks, depending on how much you tip.
Personally, I hate the stress of trying to decide who I tip (servers?; bartenders? hairdressers - does she own the salon or not? the flower delivery guy? my babysitter??) and how much. Just pay folks a decent wage, give me a bill I can understand and predict!
I will tip, but I hate it! Among other things, my wages are recorded and taxed - you can't tell me that, regardless of the laws, EVERY tip I pay to any one of the aforementioned service people is declared at tax time!0 -
to be honest, you are partly correct. If you tip with your debit or credit card, then yes, all of the tip is claimed. if you're tipping in cash, sometimes a portion of it is claimed. Not everyone declares all of their "cash" tip money, at least not in my experience working in hospitality/hotel/restaurant industry.0
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A person's occupation should not determine how we treat them. Every body deserves respect, and compassion, and kindness. But it should determine how much they are paid. It's the basic principal our society is founded on.
. . . .so that bartender deserved to be paid -8 cents to serve you a drink?? (I am assuming 1% since that is what I have always tipped out.)0 -
3- to those people that think this is a flawed system...yes it is, but it allows the restaurant to keep the food prices low and allows them to be open for longer hours.
It allows the restaurant to look good by displaying a lower printed price on the menu for the food....at the end of the day, the tip is still an out of pocket cost for me. That meal is now 10-25% higher in cost than it looks, depending on how much you tip.
Personally, I hate the stress of trying to decide who I tip (servers?; bartenders? hairdressers - does she own the salon or not? the flower delivery guy? my babysitter??) and how much. Just pay folks a decent wage, give me a bill I can understand and predict!
I will tip, but I hate it! Among other things, my wages are recorded and taxed - you can't tell me that, regardless of the laws, EVERY tip I pay to any one of the aforementioned service people is declared at tax time!
Actually, if servers do not claim realistic tips, corporate will investigate. You can't just claim 10% or anything like that either. Obviously the credit tips are recorded, and if the cash tips are a much lower percentage, they will know something isn't right.0 -
A person's occupation should not determine how we treat them. Every body deserves respect, and compassion, and kindness. But it should determine how much they are paid. It's the basic principal our society is founded on. And, while I have nothing but the utmost respect for food service workers (or any workers for that matter), I don't think it's our responsibility as consumers to supplement their income directly.
So basically you want all the luxuries that go along with eating out but none of the inconveniences. Nice.0 -
So basically you want all the luxuries that go along with eating out but none of the inconveniences. Nice.
I don't know why this is so hard to understand. It's my belief that when i go to a restaurant, I should be charged a fair price, which i then pay, and the restaurant should pay their employees a fair wage. Like I said previously ... I tip most of the time .
Somehow this makes me an *sshole though? I just want to make sure I'm understanding you correctly ...0 -
Reality is that that's what the reality is. We can rage, rage against whatever we want to rage against, but reality is that the restaurant pays that single mom (who was not born on third base, never hit a triple, and is doing the best she can and working harder than most of us ever will) $2 an hour because the owner and his golfing buddies at the C of C got the laws written that way.
If you don't make up the diff her kids go hungry. When you go to a restaurant you are charged a fair price, they just don't list all of the cost on the menu. That plate of spaghetti that's listed on the menu at $10 really costs $11.50, and if you don't like it you should stay home and cook your own $&%'ing dinner.
Unskilled indeed. :explode:0 -
i always tip (less for bad service), but I hate when servers act like they are entitled to it. And 15% is the highest i'll go. 20% seems like a little much to me.
Also, idk why this $2/hour is being thrown around all over this post. I know min. wage depends on where you live, and there can't be that many people in this post living in the same area. I have a few good friends who are servers and they make anywhere from $8-10/hour based on experience. Including tips, they make pretty good money for college students.0 -
The fact that nobody understands that I'm actually on the side of the employee, suggests that I've failed to adequately convey my point of view.
If you want to know the real minimum wage requirements by state for tipped employees, you can see them here:
http://www.paywizard.org/main/Minimumwageandovertime/MinimumWageTIPRecevers
In my state (Oregon) that minimum wage is $8.40 an hour, and an employer may not reduce that regardless of any tips the employee might have been given.
If you live in one of those other states, and you're unhappy with the situation, maybe it's time to start a grass roots movement and get some laws changed.
I think that would afford these workers much more stability and dignity than forcing them to depend on the consumers generosity at the point of service.0 -
The fact that nobody understands that I'm actually on the side of the employee, suggests that I've failed to adequately convey my point of view.
If you want to know the real minimum wage requirements by state for tipped employees, you can see them here:
http://www.paywizard.org/main/Minimumwageandovertime/MinimumWageTIPRecevers
In my state (Oregon) that minimum wage is $8.40 an hour, and an employer may not reduce that regardless of any tips the employee might have been given.
If you live in one of those other states, and you're unhappy with the situation, maybe it's time to start a grass roots movement and get some laws changed.
I think that would afford these workers much more stability and dignity than forcing them to depend on the consumers generosity at the point of service.
You sure are "sticking it to the man" by not tipping your servers. Way to fight the good fight!
I made way more than $8.40 an hour waiting tables, all in tips.
The dollar you didn't leave that bartender is as relevant as your beliefs on tipping are. Things are still the way they are regardless of what you believe is right, and that bartender easily afforded the -8 cents he paid to serve you with the tips he made from the rest of his guests. The large majority of people are respectful enough to leave a decent tip.0 -
The large majority of people are respectful enough to leave a decent tip.
Wow, my character is certainly being assailed today. I've been called discourteous, disrespectful, belittling, not-nice, and one guy practically called me a baby killer.
All because I didn't tip some rude bartender a dollar.
All because while I more-often-than-not do tip, I don't think I should be socially obligated to do so.
All because I think workers should make a decent wage and employers should have to pick up the tab.
It's a good thing I'm losing all this weight and my self-esteem can handle all these slings and arrows.0 -
I don't know why this is so hard to understand. It's my belief that when i go to a restaurant, I should be charged a fair price, which i then pay, and the restaurant should pay their employees a fair wage. Like I said previously ... I tip most of the time .
I get that, and I guess some of that was lost in translation because if I can be brutally honest with you, a lot of what you were saying earlier came off as very condescending, whether that was your intention or not (I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didn't mean to come off that way.
Also, I agree with you in principle: restaurants should charge us a fair price and pay their employees a fair wage. But most of the time they don't. That's the reality of things. I'm glad you live in a state where restaurants can't get away with that. Most people don't. And I'm sorry if I misread you earlier and if you do normally tip, then I apologize for getting snarky.
To me there's no call to not leave a tip unless I get service that is aggressively terrible/outright hostile. And even then I'm likely to leave 10% just because I have good manners. If I'm satisfied with my service, I leave 20%, sometimes more if I really get outstanding service. This applies not only to servers, but also to bartenders, tattoo artists, pizza delivery drivers, hotel bellboys, taxi drivers, and even baristas if my order is difficult, particularly large, or I'm one of those jerks that comes in at 5 minutes before close.
And just for the record, it's REALLY rude and insulting to refer to people in the service industry as "unskilled" laborers. For one thing, how do you know they're unskilled? It's a rough job market. There's plenty of people out there with degrees who have to moonlight at Chili's to make sure the light bill gets paid. Second, I've encountered more than a fair share of people who made good money pushing pencils in a cubicle all day and there are plenty of people in the hospitality industry who I would consider more skilled at a good number of things than executives in big money corporations. I dare say your average bartender is far, far more skilled than some stiff punching numbers into a calculator 40 hours a week.
Please, think about how degrading that term is and how that makes you sound to other people before you use it to talk about hard-working, intelligent people who haven't lucked their way into a six-figure job. Sorry for the rudeness earlier.0 -
ok - I'm not hurling insults at anyone, and I would say this: the bartender should not have refused you service for not tipping him. I don't know that I tip them with every drink (I think I usually do) or settle up towards the end of the night, but that's with a tab running...So, I'll take your side on that one, and I also agree, we should all earn fair wages. I also agree with one of the other posters, when you get great service (I think Casper said) say THANK YOU. it's a small gesture, but one most often forgotten. I guess we could all use a dose of a little Miss Manners in our lives.. lol0
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The large majority of people are respectful enough to leave a decent tip.
Wow, my character is certainly being assailed today. I've been called discourteous, disrespectful, belittling, not-nice, and one guy practically called me a baby killer.
All because I didn't tip some rude bartender a dollar.
All because while I more-often-than-not do tip, I don't think I should be socially obligated to do so.
All because I think workers should make a decent wage and employers should have to pick up the tab.
It's a good thing I'm losing all this weight and my self-esteem can handle all these slings and arrows.
Not tipping is discourteous and disrespectful. There's not much else I can say there.
The bartender was very rude after you didn't tip him. I would never speak to a customer that way, especially over an $8 ticket. However, I also wouldn't want to serve somebody knowing that I was paying to do so.
Don't let the disagreements here make you feel bad, especially if you feel that your intentions are in the right place.
::EDIT:: Would also like to add that I agree with Mina--- I am not sure how the bartender knew you weren't going to tip at the end of the night.0 -
I was speaking to my restaurant's general manager tonight to get a better idea on how things would change if suddenly we were to get paid a 'fair hourly wage'. He said first off most a lot of restaurants, especially mom and pop places, would probably close down. This would be because their labor cost (what they pay employees) would go through the roof, in turn they'd have to really raise prices of menu items which would then mean less customers because people wouldn't want to pay higher prices. For example, at my job tonight there were 9 servers, and we worked say 6 hours each. Times $2.13 an hour, that's $115.02 total cost for one shift. If we were to get regular minimum wage of $7.25, not even a "fair hourly wage", that'd cost the restaurant 391.50, just over triple what it is now.. That's quite a difference, every single day. Now if you were saying something like $12.50 is a 'fair hourly wage', that cost goes up to $675. That's a lot of money. So you're $12 pizza is going to be like $20 now, just to pay me. Wouldn't you rather have tipped me a few bucks instead of paying $8 extra?
I've lived in Las Vegas and Los Angeles, and there servers get paid regular minimum wage. I've also lived in New Jersey and (currently) Texas, and here we get paid $2.13 an hour.
It is what it is.0 -
The fact that nobody understands that I'm actually on the side of the employee, suggests that I've failed to adequately convey my point of view.
I can see that you're on the side of them employees, you want us to get paid more. But I really don't think that's going to happen. And honestly, a lot of servers would rather be tipped than get a paycheck. I know I would. I make more than minimum wage. Tonight was a very slow night at work and I made almost $15 an hour after I tipped out.
So I guess what it comes down to, tip fairly for good service, or tip poorly if you want bad service next time. I understand you don't want to be responsible for paying me, so don't pay me...life goes on and the next table will probably make up for you. :laugh:0 -
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Tipping is common courtesy, and there is no debating that. Just as some people do not feel obligated to hold the door open for others, some people do not feel obligated to tip.
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Decent service is courtesy, and a tip is its reward.
Are you saying that people should tip based on the service they receive?
That's what I was trying to say earlier, sorry for cutting in here... but when did it become so *kitten* backwards that servers are no longer expected to earn their tips? It should never be expected. Its part of your job, I dont go to work expecting to get paid without working hard for it and neither should servers. When I take my family out for dinner at the end of a hard week of work, I expect the same hardworking, focused and dedicated work ethic from my server that I show to my clients and employer at work. It is, after all, called earning a living. I would really like to know why servers just expect to get tips for nothing, simply for showing up for work? In the real world, people earn their money. I've always said to servers that if you dont like the money, get out of the work. The fact of the matter is that servers make amazing money on tips (tax free might I add, at least most places in Ontario it's not regulated how much of the tips are claimed as income for tax purposes). If you're not making amazing money on tips this should tell you one of two things: either you are a bad server, or you work in a low volume restaurant.
It's common sense.... why should I let you into my wallet when I had to bust my *kitten* to earn that money. You are going to have to bust your *kitten* just as hard to get it from me, plain and simple. I think thats fair, dont you?
I also wanted to add that I see alot of people posting about the wages. You have to take the good with the bad. You want better wages then buckle down and join the real world and work a normal 40 hour work week.... the fact is most of you cant and that's why you serve because of the very flexible hours for the most part.0 -
I'm the one guy. I didn't call you a baby killer. I said that people who don't tip cause waitresses kids to go hungry, which is true. :bigsmile:The large majority of people are respectful enough to leave a decent tip.
Wow, my character is certainly being assailed today. I've been called discourteous, disrespectful, belittling, not-nice, and one guy practically called me a baby killer.
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Tipping is common courtesy, and there is no debating that. Just as some people do not feel obligated to hold the door open for others, some people do not feel obligated to tip.
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Decent service is courtesy, and a tip is its reward.
Are you saying that people should tip based on the service they receive?
That's what I was trying to say earlier, sorry for cutting in here... but when did it become so *kitten* backwards that servers are no longer expected to earn their tips? It should never be expected. Its part of your job, I dont go to work expecting to get paid without working hard for it and neither should servers. When I take my family out for dinner at the end of a hard week of work, I expect the same hardworking, focused and dedicated work ethic from my server that I show to my clients and employer at work. It is, after all, called earning a living. I would really like to know why servers just expect to get tips for nothing, simply for showing up for work? In the real world, people earn their money. I've always said to servers that if you dont like the money, get out of the work. The fact of the matter is that servers make amazing money on tips (tax free might I add, at least most places in Ontario it's not regulated how much of the tips are claimed as income for tax purposes). If you're not making amazing money on tips this should tell you one of two things: either you are a bad server, or you work in a low volume restaurant.
It's common sense.... why should I let you into my wallet when I had to bust my *kitten* to earn that money. You are going to have to bust your *kitten* just as hard to get it from me, plain and simple. I think thats fair, dont you?
I also wanted to add that I see alot of people posting about the wages. You have to take the good with the bad. You want better wages then buckle down and join the real world and work a normal 40 hour work week.... the fact is most of you cant and that's why you serve because of the very flexible hours for the most part.
My comment was meant to be sarcastic. I absolutely agree that a server should be tipped based on the service they provide. I do not know of any server who feels that they are not expected to earn their tips.
The reason for the sarcasm is because this concept has nothing to do with the video. That woman left a bad tip because she is cheap and rude, not because she got bad service.0 -
no one would laugh at you! i love it when people compliment me b/c if they are just a low tipper or in financial hardship and only give my 15%, but tell me that i was a great witress, i know it's not my fault that i didn't get more. i think that's a good thing you do for real! it really changes a waitresses day if someone says something extra special about you i love waiting tables though! 0
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