HiiT cardio
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HIIT is a great way to pound out some cardio. But it won't help you "lose weight" if you're not eating in a deficit. The purpose of exercise isn't for weight loss; it's for fitness. That said, exercise increases your TDEE, so it may make it easier to achieve a calorie deficit.
For the simple minded folk, such as myself, who didnt for a long time quite get TDEE, it's just as honest to say it burns calories thus negating some of the calories you eat....therefore making it easier to close the day at a deficit.0 -
Has anyone had any success in losing weight with HiiT Cardio training?
Yes, OP. yes.
ETA: as Taso said, you must also pay attention to eating.0 -
theres a continuing debate going on with a guy who is holding a bottle of alcohol in his hands. of course he is always right lol. thats why i dont go to bars anymore haha cheers to all and merry training
im adapting HiiT to my training now too let the results speak for themselves 0 -
I never seen a pro do HIIT.
every Pro I know DISCOURAGES Cardio altogether0 -
I never seen a pro do HIIT.
every Pro I know DISCOURAGES Cardio altogether
Long bouts of cardio yes but a lot of them do incorporate HIITs because it doesnt kill progress from lifting, and im talking physique pros who are interested in low body fat! But diet is key to it all, no amount of exercise is going to off set a bad diet!0 -
HIIT>Steady state cardio.
From your article linked above by alanaragon:
"• In long-term studies, both linear high-intensity and HIIT training is superior to lower intensities on the whole for maintaining and/or increasing cardiovascular fitness & lean mass, and are at least as effective, and according to some research, far better at reducing bodyfat."
Also, from exoerience, HIIT helped me bust through plateaus. I like SS cardio for fun....but for best results do HIIT.
You forgot to quote everything:"• In acute trials, fat oxidation during exercise tends to be higher in low-intensity treatments, but postexercise fat oxidation and/or energy expenditure tends to be higher in high-intensity treatments.
• Fed subjects consistently experience a greater thermic effect postexercise in both intensity ranges.
• In 24-hr trials, there is no difference in fat oxidation between the 2 types, pointing to a delayed rise in fat oxidation in the high-intensity groups which evens out the field.
• In long-term studies, both linear high-intensity and HIIT training is superior to lower intensities on the whole for maintaining and/or increasing cardiovascular fitness & lean mass, and are at least as effective, and according to some research, far better at reducing bodyfat."
I have only said one thing through this entire topic, and piss keep on misunderstanding it. I am saying "You don't burn more fat assuming calorie burn is in the same in both cases."
Does this mean I am bashing HIIT? NO, does it mean I hate HIIT? NO. I don't care, i am spreading the truth, that's all. Do what you wish with it. you want to do HIIT do it, if you don't, then don't I don't care.
HIIT IS NOT greater than LISS. The one that is greater is the one you can do. When i first started out i thought "the best way was HIIT" so i'd do it, and it was just to tough on me and make me want to stop. I wouldn't recommend it for beginners, there is a greater chance of failure.
I highly doubt to anyone who said "HIIT HELPED ME BREAK A PLATEAU" that you kept your calorie burn constant as well.
It's probably true that HIIT helps preserve ean tissue due to the fact if you're ONLY DOING HIIT. If you're in a intense resistance program, I wouldn't recommend it. It can greatly increase the risk of over training. You can do it if your workouts are short, like 40mins lifting one day 20mins HIIT or a format like that.
I was just sharing the information that you selectively did NOT share. Do whatever you want with your body. OP asked a question, I answered. I went from "obese" to <20% bf with a combination of LISS, HITT, heavy lifting, and proper diet. Whatever you think about my "calorie burn" doing HIIT, the fact remains that it DiD help me get my weight and body fat lower than it has ever been in my life. You do what you want. I don't care what you do with your body. But for me, HIIT is key to my fitness program and I stand by that.
ETA: and by "helping me break a plateau" I mean the only change I did was do HIIT instead of steady state. My run distance and times remained the same. The way I ran them changed.0 -
Also, dude, if HIIT is too hard for you, obviously don't do it. Anything is better than nothing or an injury. I'm not bashing you and saying LISS is a waste of time. I lost a large amount of weight doing only SS long runs (tho that was actually bad for my knees). The question wasn't whether or not a noob should do HIIT, the question was which is better. And the fact remains that 20 mins or 2 miles of high intensity interval running is gonna do more for you than 20 mins/2 miles of SS ten minute mile running.0
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What kind of pro are you talking about?
I never seen a pro do HIIT.0 -
Let me tell you the truth. No one will lose weight with HIIT or LISS if you don't burn more calories than you consume.
Doing HIIT doesn't produce weight loss, Burning more calories than you consume does.
Due to injuries and complications. I burned more fat then most of these people who do HIIT. I lost over 30lbs without setting foot in the gym these last few months due to an injury.
Good for you!
Your first statement is accurate- yes. It's a calories in calories out world. HIIT burns more calories than steady state for the same amount of time. I don't get your comment "i burned more fat than most of these peopel who do HIIT".... how did you measure that? Also, comment about gym is irrelevant. I don't do HIIT in a gym.
Here's another way I look at it: LISS is just fine, until you are trying to reach a bf% that is "athlete" level (and not just "fitness" so meanign less than 21% for women and less than 14% for men). Thats when you want to spend your time doing a combo of HIIT and lifting and not waste time with LISS.0 -
I love to do HIIT training. I do it on the treadmill 2 times a week as part of my routine and i love it. Definitely gets me sweating!0
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Doing HIIT or not, doesn't matter, burning more calories than you consume is what matters. You can lose weight without doing HIIT at all. I do agree with you, total on time comparing LISS and HIIT will burn more calories with HIIT.
My comment about not setting foot in the gym means I didn't exercise and i lost 30lbs" I didn't lose it because I did HIIT, I lost it cause I was in a calorie deficit, you don't even need to exercise at all to lose weight. That's my point.
Some of the most leanest people I know don't even do cardio. (In reference to your body fat %)
Well, when someone starts a thread asking I you can lose weight without cardio at all, be sure to chime in. Glad you finally got on board with answering this Op's question re: HITT vs LISS with the correct answer. HITT >LISS, for the same amount of time invested of course.0 -
head! desk! head! desk!
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this is why the head desk:
"I'd like to add OP:, Doing something specific such as HIIT, weight training, LISS, some dvd program doesn't result in fat loss. For fat loss to happen you have to burn more calories then you consume. "
OP, find someone who looks how you want to look and ask them what they do. That'll be your best bet.
because if you think about fitness and protecting lean body mass, you will be the man on the left.
If you follow the advice above and just make sure your cals in is less than your cals out, you'll be the man on the right.
You just have to decide which you want to be. They have the same body fat percentage.
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this is why the head desk:
"I'd like to add OP:, Doing something specific such as HIIT, weight training, LISS, some dvd program doesn't result in fat loss. For fat loss to happen you have to burn more calories then you consume. "
OP, find someone who looks how you want to look and ask them what they do. That'll be your best bet.
because if you think about fitness and protecting lean body mass, you will be the man on the left.
If you follow the advice above and just make sure your cals in is less than your cals out, you'll be the man on the right.
You just have to decide which you want to be. They have the same body fat percentage.
This!!!!0 -
you know, some of those guys you listed earlier that supposedly don't do any HIIT actually do HIIT. They just do it with weights and call if "high intensity strength training" instead of doing it running and calling it "high intenstiy cardio"...either way, it's a high intensity interval with a short rest, which is what HIIT is.
Oh wait. But I forgot, it doesn't matter what intenstiy you use.... SMH.0 -
you know, some of those guys you listed earlier that supposedly don't do any HIIT actually do HIIT. They just do it with weights and call if "high intensity strength training" instead of doing it running and calling it "high intenstiy cardio"...either way, it's a high intensity interval with a short rest, which is what HIIT is.
Oh wait. But I forgot, it doesn't matter what intenstiy you use.... SMH.
We're talking about reducing body fat. That's what this topic is about.0 -
Bear in mind that if your goal is improved external appearance, it doesn't matter that much, just do the work.
If your goal is superior fitness your training should be coordinated in a program that includes several approaches, more than just simple HIIT vs LISS.
With a good Polar HRM you can upload your data and measure whether you are over or under training based upon algorythms the've developed. I race DH mountain bikes in the summer, so my focus is specifically to be faster, and to do so I must be more fit.0 -
Granted JUST calories in=calories out is true, we all know that. But who wants to become skinny fat? In order to not become that you HAVE to do exercise, preferably strength training. Because honestly strength training is going to burn more fat and get you at a lower body fat percentage than HIIT or LISS will. And I think that what most of the ppl in this thread are saying is that HIIT is more worth the time if you can handle it and don't have time to spend hours a day.....0
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I started HIIT class (think Crossfit) in the first week of January. I'm seeing great results in both weight dropping and clothes fitting differently, even just in one month of doing HIIT 3 times per week. Prior to this, I was doing water aerobics, elliptical, and treadmill. I still do the water aerobics once a week, and still shoot for one or two days of elliptical or treadmill.
As always, your mileage may vary, but since the OP wanted people to chime in with their own experiences, here I am. Boom.0 -
I started HIIT class (think Crossfit) in the first week of January. I'm seeing great results in both weight dropping and clothes fitting differently, even just in one month of doing HIIT 3 times per week. Prior to this, I was doing water aerobics, elliptical, and treadmill. I still do the water aerobics once a week, and still shoot for one or two days of elliptical or treadmill.
As always, your mileage may vary, but since the OP wanted people to chime in with their own experiences, here I am. Boom.
BOOM?? VA VA VOOM!!!!
Also, this is what I do for fun:
http://youtu.be/iY2paIdfSK4 0 -
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Well, technically this thread is about if anyone has had success with HIIT. And then you guys wanted to be rude and debate HIIT vs LISS on his thread. The answer to his question is yes you can have success with HIIT. Period. The only unsuccessful exercise is the one you don't do, or do wrong end up injured.0
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Mountain biking is hot!
I don't have a lot of videos of me doing awesome stuff, but i like to do other things than just lift weights and runAnd then you guys wanted to be rude and debate HIIT vs LISS on his thread.
Chill out. That's kinda what the OP asked about.
I just came back in to say I came across this great article that I thought anyone involved in this thread my find interesting:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/six-week-shred-torch-fat-with-hiit-100s.html0
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