Static weight advice
Rhozelyn
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Anyone who would like to peruse my diary and offer suggestions as to why my weight is static for 3 weeks is most welcome to help...
I am 5'7
Weight 185lb
The usual calculations are as follows BMR 1597 (using the "revised road map")
TDEE is 1979 for lightly active....and 2230 for moderately active...( I work out but otherwise am not very active)
Thanks
I am 5'7
Weight 185lb
The usual calculations are as follows BMR 1597 (using the "revised road map")
TDEE is 1979 for lightly active....and 2230 for moderately active...( I work out but otherwise am not very active)
Thanks
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Medscape Medical News
Weight Loss Myths Refuted in New Review
Miriam E. TuckerJan 31, 2013
Some of the most firmly held beliefs about weight loss are unproven or downright untrue, according to an analysis comparing concepts promoted in the popular media with data from the scientific literature.
The findings were published online January 31 in a special article in the New England Journal of Medicine.
"False and scientifically unsupported beliefs about obesity are pervasive in both scientific literature and the popular press," write Krista Casazza, PhD, RD, from the Department of Nutrition Sciences, University of Alabama at Birmingham, and colleagues.
The authors discuss a total of 7 myths, along with refuting evidence. Here are some examples:
Small changes in food intake and/or exercise will produce large, long term weight changes — This idea was based on the old idea that 3500 kcal equals 1 pound of weight. But it does not take into account the fact that energy requirements change as body mass changes over time. So, as weight is lost, it takes increasingly more exercise and reduced intake to perpetuate the loss.
Realistic weight-loss goals will keep people motivated — This idea seems reasonable, but it is not supported by evidence. In fact, several studies have shown that people with very ambitious goals lose more weight (eg, TV's The Biggest Loser).
Slow, gradual weight loss is best for long-term success — Actually, a meta-analysis of randomized, controlled weight-loss trials found that rapid weight loss via very-low-calorie diets resulted in significantly more weight loss (16% vs 10% of body weight) at 6 months, and differences in weight loss persisted up to 18 months (Int J Behav Med. 2010;17:161-167).
A bout of sexual activity burns 100 to 300 kcal per person — With intense sexual activity, a 154-pound man burns approximately 3.5 kcal per minute. However, given that the average amount of time spent during one stimulation and orgasm session is about 6 minutes, this man might expend about 21 kcal total. But, he would burn about 7 kcal per minute just lying on the couch, so that amount has to be subtracted, which gives a grand total of 14 kcals of energy expended.
The article also explores 6 "presumptions," or widely accepted beliefs that are neither proven nor disproven. Among them:
Eating breakfast prevents obesity — Actually, 2 studies showed no effect of eating vs skipping breakfast.
Adding fruits and vegetables to the diet results in weight loss — Adding more calories of any type without making any other changes is likely to cause weight gain. Eating fruits and vegetables is healthful, however.
Weight cycling, aka "yoyo dieting," increases mortality — The data are from observational studies and likely confounded by health status.
Finally, the authors offer 9 facts about obesity and weight loss that are supported by data, among them:
Moderate environmental changes can promote as much weight loss as even the best weight-loss drugs.
Diets do produce weight loss, but attempting to diet and telling someone to diet are not necessarily the same thing.
Physical activity does help in promoting weight loss and has health benefits even in the absence of weight loss.
For overweight children, involving the family and home environment in weight-loss efforts is ideal.
Providing actual meals or meal replacements works better for weight loss than does general advice about food choices.
Both weight-loss drugs and bariatric surgery can help achieve long-term weight loss in some individuals.
According to Dr. Casazza and colleagues, "The myths and presumptions about obesity that we have discussed are just a sampling of the numerous unsupported beliefs held by many people, including academics, regulators, and journalists, as well as the general public. Yet there are facts about obesity of which we may be reasonably certain — facts that are useful today."
And they conclude, "While we work to generate additional useful knowledge, we may in some cases justifiably move forward with hypothesized, but not proven, strategies. However, as a scientific community, we must always be open and honest with the public about the state of our knowledge and should rigorously evaluate unproved strategies."
This analysis was supported in part by the National Institutes of Health. Dr. Casazza has disclosed no relevant financial relationships. Disclosures for the coauthors are listed on the journal's Web site.
N Engl J Med. 2013;368:446-454. Abstract0 -
My initial reaction is to say that you are double counting your exercise calories. Either list youself as "moderately active" and not eat back your exercise calories, or list yourself as "Sendentary" and eat back your exercise calories.
If you WORK lifestyle is active (waitress, construction, etc) then set it accordingly. If you work behind a desk all day, I recommend following what I stated earlier.0 -
I know that this will be unpopular with the "roadmap" crew, but I don't believe that calculators are all that accurate for every person. I know some will argue this fact, but new research does point to the fact that not everyone metabolizes food calories in the same way. Some people really do have slower metabolisms.
There is no way for an online calculator to give you an exact RMR/BMR. It can give you an "average" BMR, which may be a median number for a similar population, or it may be a mean number for your population, but an online calulator uses a constant and a formula to guess a likely BMR. In order to know your BMR, you would have to have physical metabolic testing.
My BMR is supposedly 1550, and my TDEE is supposedly 2300, but if I eat between 1600 and 2000 calories a day while working out intensely multiple days a week, I maintain and don't lose.
I think the "roadmap" method is a great, fact-based method with the exception that online calculators aren't necessarily accurate.0 -
Not to get into this whole debate but eating back all your exercise calories can hurt your progress, especially if you are overestimating your burn.0
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Try eating back half or less of your exercise calories for a few weeks and see if that helps. MFP always overestimates exercise.0
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My initial reaction is to say that you are double counting your exercise calories. Either list youself as "moderately active" and not eat back your exercise calories, or list yourself as "Sendentary" and eat back your exercise calories.
If you WORK lifestyle is active (waitress, construction, etc) then set it accordingly. If you work behind a desk all day, I recommend following what I stated earlier.0 -
My initial reaction is to say that you are double counting your exercise calories. Either list youself as "moderately active" and not eat back your exercise calories, or list yourself as "Sendentary" and eat back your exercise calories.
If you WORK lifestyle is active (waitress, construction, etc) then set it accordingly. If you work behind a desk all day, I recommend following what I stated earlier.0 -
I only customised my calories today....but I have reverted it to the mfp generated one using sedentary lifestyle. So not the 1600 but 1440 calories daily.
I see what you mean about my eating back exercise calories which I started doing based on what I read on these forums but it looks like adding 3-400 calories seems to have made me maintain rather than lose weight! I wish I had realised this last week!
I use a polar Ft7 for my exercise calories which is always less than the mfp calories.
Ok so back to the drawing board....I might give myself an extra squeeze without eating any exercise calories for a week and see what that does!
No wonder I feel that I'm not on a diet!
Thank you!0 -
I know that this will be unpopular with the "roadmap" crew, but I don't believe that calculators are all that accurate for every person. I know some will argue this fact, but new research does point to the fact that not everyone metabolizes food calories in the same way. Some people really do have slower metabolisms.
There is no way for an online calculator to give you an exact RMR/BMR. It can give you an "average" BMR, which may be a median number for a similar population, or it may be a mean number for your population, but an online calulator uses a constant and a formula to guess a likely BMR. In order to know your BMR, you would have to have physical metabolic testing.
My BMR is supposedly 1550, and my TDEE is supposedly 2300, but if I eat between 1600 and 2000 calories a day while working out intensely multiple days a week, I maintain and don't lose.
I think the "roadmap" method is a great, fact-based method with the exception that online calculators aren't necessarily accurate.
I agree 100%. For me, I have to set my weight loss goals to be 1/2 lb higher than what I'll actually lose. This could be due to underestimating food. Overestimating calories burned. The fact that at 43, perhaps my metabolism is slowing down a little. Either way, I seem to lose weight at about 1/2 lb less each week than what I set it to be. Given that we are unique and not all fall in the "average" numbers that MFP generates, please adjust your numbers accordingly. I set my weight loss goals a little higher. Others may choose to "not eat back exercise calories". etc.0 -
It is all very confusing . Some would say I need to eat even more to hit my calorie goal. If I eat less than I have been doing I will eat less than my calorie goal which generally seems to cause stagnation. I know my body is unique in itself. I don't want to stress about losing weight and But my patience is wearing thin when results are not favourable and no there is no discernible inch loss.
Obviously eating back exercise calories is easier than not but I need to do something different!0
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