Interesting article on weight loss myths

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  • shadowsaround
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    Average sex time is 6 minutes lol
  • LaLouve_RK
    LaLouve_RK Posts: 899 Member
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    Average sex time is 6 minutes lol
    Yeah that was a nice info lolll
  • LaLouve_RK
    LaLouve_RK Posts: 899 Member
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    Nice.. wanted to copy/pate the article.. and it now says "page not found" ... tssss
  • LaLouve_RK
    LaLouve_RK Posts: 899 Member
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    Nice.. wanted to copy/pate the article.. and it now says "page not found" ... tssss

    AAH! The forum cuts the address at the end!!!!!! Here's the article....

    http://www.vancouversun.com/health/burn+calories+Snacking+skipping+breakfast+Authors+claim+these
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    Fact or fiction? Sex burns a lot of calories. Snacking or skipping breakfast is bad. School gym classes make a big difference in kids' weight.

    All are myths or at least presumptions that may not be true, say researchers who reviewed the science behind some widely held obesity beliefs and found it lacking.

    Their report in Thursday's New England Journal of Medicine says dogma and fallacies are detracting from real solutions to the nation's weight problems.

    "The evidence is what matters," and many feel-good ideas repeated by well-meaning health experts just don't have it, said the lead author, David Allison, a biostatistician at the University of Alabama at Birmingham.

    Independent researchers say the authors have some valid points. But many of the report's authors also have deep financial ties to food, beverage and weight-loss product makers — the disclosures take up half a page of fine print in the journal.

    "It raises questions about what the purpose of this paper is" and whether it's aimed at promoting drugs, meal replacement products and bariatric surgery as solutions, said Marion Nestle, a New York University professor of nutrition and food studies.

    "The big issues in weight loss are how you change the food environment in order for people to make healthy choices," such as limits on soda sizes and marketing junk food to children, she said. Some of the myths they cite are "straw men" issues, she said.

    But some are pretty interesting.

    Sex, for instance. Not that people do it to try to lose weight, but claims that it burns 100 to 300 calories are common, Allison said. Yet the only study that scientifically measured the energy output found that sex lasted six minutes on average — "disappointing, isn't it?" — and burned a mere 21 calories, about as much as walking, he said.

    That's for a man. The study was done in 1984 and didn't measure the women's experience.

    Among the other myths or assumptions the authors cite, based on their review of the most rigorous studies on each topic:

    —Small changes in diet or exercise lead to large, long-term weight changes. Fact: The body adapts to changes, so small steps to cut calories don't have the same effect over time, studies suggest. At least one outside expert agrees with the authors that the "small changes" concept is based on an "oversimplified" 3,500-calorie rule, that adding or cutting that many calories alters weight by one pound.

    —School gym classes have a big impact on kids' weight. Fact: Classes typically are not long, often or intense enough to make much difference.

    —Losing a lot of weight quickly is worse than losing a little slowly over the long term. Fact: Although many dieters regain weight, those who lose a lot to start with often end up at a lower weight than people who drop more modest amounts.

    —Snacking leads to weight gain. Fact: No high quality studies support that, the authors say.

    —Regularly eating breakfast helps prevent obesity. Fact: Two studies found no effect on weight and one suggested that the effect depended on whether people were used to skipping breakfast or not.

    —Setting overly ambitious goals leads to frustration and less weight loss. Fact: Some studies suggest people do better with high goals.

    Some things may not have the strongest evidence for preventing obesity but are good for other reasons, such as breastfeeding and eating plenty of fruits and vegetables, the authors write. And exercise helps prevent a host of health problems regardless of whether it helps a person shed weight.

    "I agree with most of the points" except the authors' conclusions that meal replacement products and diet drugs work for battling obesity, said Dr. David Ludwig, a prominent obesity research with Boston Children's Hospital who has no industry ties. Most weight-loss drugs sold over the last century had to be recalled because of serious side effects, so "there's much more evidence of failure than success," he said.
  • shadowsaround
    shadowsaround Posts: 76
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    Yay i'm above average lol
    Average sex time is 6 minutes lol
    Yeah that was a nice info lolll
  • TR0berts
    TR0berts Posts: 7,739 Member
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    Average sex time is 6 minutes lol



    You're doing it wrong.
  • wrotruck
    wrotruck Posts: 72 Member
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    Average sex time is 6 minutes lol

    Are we just talking about the waffles here or does this include the mixing before hand?
  • drchimpanzee
    drchimpanzee Posts: 892 Member
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    I want pancakes though.
  • nicky9door18
    nicky9door18 Posts: 4 Member
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    I read this article in the globe and mail yesterday and I found it very interesting. I loved the part where it debunks the myth that losing weight fast means you can't keep it off. Historically, I have exercised a lot and eaten a really healthy diet. I've never lost more than 2 or 3 pounds doing this. After a few months with little results I quit watching what I eat. I am not technically overweight but I would like to lose 10 or 15 pounds. I am now trying to eat low calorie for a month or so, (900 cal/day, low carb) and I've already lost 3.5 pounds. I'm not hungry and I feel good, I'm sticking to hour a day power walks and cutting out the spin classes until I've lost a few more pounds. Before I read this article I thought that losing weight quickly inherently meant that it would come back quicker than if I'd lost it slowly. For me, motivation is the key and in the short term it is reflected on the scale.
  • Megdonald1
    Megdonald1 Posts: 149 Member
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    bump
  • Siege_Tank
    Siege_Tank Posts: 781 Member
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    the disclosures take up half a page of fine print in the journal.

    "It raises questions about what the purpose of this paper is" and whether it's aimed at promoting drugs, meal replacement products and bariatric surgery as solutions, said Marion Nestle, a New York University professor of nutrition and food studies.

    See, when I read a sentence like that, the meanings of the words arrange themselves like this in my head:
    "Any researcher may take a cherry picked handful of data, ignore important aspects of it, and use their conclusions to support any theory or hypothesis they like"

    In other words, If it ain't peer reviewed or published in the NIH or another reputable journal for the purpose of being scrutinized and possibly criticized by other researchers, then it's highest and best use is for toilet paper.

    But I thought some of the ideas might have some merit, if we could see the entire data set, or see someone's take on it who wasn't in the pocket of Kraft, Tyson, GNC, or other companies..
  • Missjulesdid
    Missjulesdid Posts: 1,444 Member
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    hmmm 6 MINUTES????? 21 CALORIES WTF ??? 43 minutes 311 calories burned... according to my BodyMediaFit.
  • LaLouve_RK
    LaLouve_RK Posts: 899 Member
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    Average sex time is 6 minutes lol



    You're doing it wrong.

    Quickies are fun sometimes :tongue:
  • michellemybelll
    michellemybelll Posts: 2,228 Member
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    Average sex time is 6 minutes lol

    Are we just talking about the waffles here or does this include the mixing before hand?


    lol! if 6 mins includes prep and the final product, that saddens me :huh:
  • LaLouve_RK
    LaLouve_RK Posts: 899 Member
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    Average sex time is 6 minutes lol

    Are we just talking about the waffles here or does this include the mixing before hand?


    lol! if 6 mins includes prep and the final product, that saddens me :huh:


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