I have mixed feelings about weight loss at the moment.

julianpoutram
julianpoutram Posts: 331 Member
edited January 13 in Health and Weight Loss
I am obviously overwhelmingly happy that I'm starting to have some shape and look better in things but at the same time I feel so much weaker strength wise! I think I've lost a lot of muscle since I started and I think that I'm also a lot more fragile in terms of dealing with the weather and keeping my core temp up!

Am I eating wrong or something? Should I eat more protein? Or is this muscle loss inevitable?

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  • GauchoMark
    GauchoMark Posts: 1,804 Member
    I glanced at your diary and a couple of things:

    1) for a 20 year old male, you don't seem to be eating NEARLY enough. What are your goals set at?

    2) your protein is set at the 15% default. If you want to minimize muscle loss, I would increase this. Rule of thumb is 0.8-1 g protein / lb lean body mass.

    Losing muscle while losing weight is expected, however, the real key is to try to minimize this loss. This is done by eating plenty of of protein and making sure you are getting enough calories to fuel your body without it needing to catabolize your muscles. See items 1 & 2 above!

    The cold thing is normal too. I freeze all the time. Part of it is your body tends to feel cold during weight loss, the other part is that your insulation layer is shrinking!
  • concordancia
    concordancia Posts: 5,320 Member
    Have you been doing any resistance training? That should help keep your strength up.

    As for being cold, that seems to come with the territory. I haven't checked my actual temp lately, but I went to turn the thermostat up and my students were unanimous about it being plenty warm in the room already.
  • julianpoutram
    julianpoutram Posts: 331 Member
    I glanced at your diary and a couple of things:

    1) for a 20 year old male, you don't seem to be eating NEARLY enough. What are your goals set at?

    2) your protein is set at the 15% default. If you want to minimize muscle loss, I would increase this. Rule of thumb is 0.8-1 g protein / lb lean body mass.

    Losing muscle while losing weight is expected, however, the real key is to try to minimize this loss. This is done by eating plenty of of protein and making sure you are getting enough calories to fuel your body without it needing to catabolize your muscles. See items 1 & 2 above!

    The cold thing is normal too. I freeze all the time. Part of it is your body tends to feel cold during weight loss, the other part is that your insulation layer is shrinking!

    My cal intake is 1680 as a guideline for 2 lb loss per week. Today is a very low day for me, I would usually eat all of those calories and then maybe some more if I'm at the gym. And I don't do weights but I do put my resistance high on all my cardio equipment. Planning on starting weights soon though as I'm starting to realise that I don't actually hold alot of upper body muscle at all which is annoying, it's all in my legs!
  • skydiveD30571
    skydiveD30571 Posts: 281 Member
    I did the same thing last year. Too big of a calorie deficit and not very much protein. I worked my *kitten* off at the gym, but when you aren't supplying your body with what it needs to repair and keep muscle, weight lifting won't matter. Lost a lot of weight, but wasn't happy with where it was coming from.

    Like Mark said, you can expect a little muscle loss during weight loss but it is possible to preserve nearly all of it if you have abundant protein intake and resistance train. Good luck!
  • From glancing at your diary, you are hitting the calorie goal, but with wasteful calories. Instead of those treats, eat fruit/veggies. Instead of toast in the morning, eat cottage cheese and eggs.

    Also, anytime you feel hungry, drink 8 oz of water first. If you're still hungry, eat. Good luck!
  • nuemmedigg
    nuemmedigg Posts: 220 Member
    I agree with the posts above. Keep exercising and strength training to avoid muscle loss. My weight loss is very slow, but because of my higher protein intake (30-35 %) and exercise, I am gaining muscles.
    Thank you all for explaining why I, who was always the "being too warm queen" am suddenly turning up heaters. I thought that maybe my hemoglobin or age was the problem.
  • BlueObsidian
    BlueObsidian Posts: 297 Member
    I glanced at your diary and a couple of things:

    1) for a 20 year old male, you don't seem to be eating NEARLY enough. What are your goals set at?

    2) your protein is set at the 15% default. If you want to minimize muscle loss, I would increase this. Rule of thumb is 0.8-1 g protein / lb lean body mass.

    Losing muscle while losing weight is expected, however, the real key is to try to minimize this loss. This is done by eating plenty of of protein and making sure you are getting enough calories to fuel your body without it needing to catabolize your muscles. See items 1 & 2 above!

    The cold thing is normal too. I freeze all the time. Part of it is your body tends to feel cold during weight loss, the other part is that your insulation layer is shrinking!

    My cal intake is 1680 as a guideline for 2 lb loss per week. Today is a very low day for me, I would usually eat all of those calories and then maybe some more if I'm at the gym. And I don't do weights but I do put my resistance high on all my cardio equipment. Planning on starting weights soon though as I'm starting to realise that I don't actually hold alot of upper body muscle at all which is annoying, it's all in my legs!

    Two pounds per week is probably too large of a deficit for the amount of weight you have left to lose. Change your deficit to one pound, increase the protein, and start lifting.
  • GauchoMark
    GauchoMark Posts: 1,804 Member
    I glanced at your diary and a couple of things:

    1) for a 20 year old male, you don't seem to be eating NEARLY enough. What are your goals set at?

    2) your protein is set at the 15% default. If you want to minimize muscle loss, I would increase this. Rule of thumb is 0.8-1 g protein / lb lean body mass.

    Losing muscle while losing weight is expected, however, the real key is to try to minimize this loss. This is done by eating plenty of of protein and making sure you are getting enough calories to fuel your body without it needing to catabolize your muscles. See items 1 & 2 above!

    The cold thing is normal too. I freeze all the time. Part of it is your body tends to feel cold during weight loss, the other part is that your insulation layer is shrinking!

    My cal intake is 1680 as a guideline for 2 lb loss per week. Today is a very low day for me, I would usually eat all of those calories and then maybe some more if I'm at the gym. And I don't do weights but I do put my resistance high on all my cardio equipment. Planning on starting weights soon though as I'm starting to realise that I don't actually hold alot of upper body muscle at all which is annoying, it's all in my legs!

    Two pounds per week is probably too large of a deficit for the amount of weight you have left to lose. Change your deficit to one pound, increase the protein, and start lifting.

    agreed.

    You only have about 30 lbs left to lose? 1 lb/week is about right.
  • julianpoutram
    julianpoutram Posts: 331 Member
    This is all great advice. I made myself a protein filled lunch for tomorrow and I'm gonna see what I can do for tomorrow morning too. I'm going to up my daily goals as well to 1lb loss per week. Thanks for the tips so far guys! Really helpful! :D
  • jjrichard83
    jjrichard83 Posts: 483 Member
    Read this too: http://www.theiflife.com/how-much-protein-per-day-build-muscle/


    The NSCA says you need just 0.34g of protein per lb. to sustain. So I don't think that is the issue at all. Not enough protein is usually never the problem.


    Edit - just looked at your diary. I take it back. You need to up your protein! lol. It is even lower than the recommended amount NOT from the meat & supplement industry.

    Also good fat is not bad. Try taking some Extra virgin olive oil for fat and energy (watch out on how much you take though, 1-2 tablespoons a day is great.
  • GauchoMark
    GauchoMark Posts: 1,804 Member
    Read this too: http://www.theiflife.com/how-much-protein-per-day-build-muscle/


    The NSCA says you need just 0.34g of protein per lb. to sustain. So I don't think that is the issue at all. Not enough protein is usually never the problem.


    Edit - just looked at your diary. I take it back. You need to up your protein! lol. It is even lower than the recommended amount NOT from the meat & supplement industry.

    Also good fat is not bad. Try taking some Extra virgin olive oil for fat and energy (watch out on how much you take though, 1-2 tablespoons a day is great.

    that article you posted... I think you misread it.

    The 0.36 g you referenced is the amount needed to avoid deficiency. In the conclusions, it states:

    "The more active you are, the more protein you probably should intake. Most average active people only need about 0.6g/lb of lean body weight. On the high end I would say only need to go 0.8-1.0g/lb bw, but that does not guarantee extra muscle especially when you can up calories from fat/carbs."
  • julianpoutram
    julianpoutram Posts: 331 Member
    Read this too: http://www.theiflife.com/how-much-protein-per-day-build-muscle/


    The NSCA says you need just 0.34g of protein per lb. to sustain. So I don't think that is the issue at all. Not enough protein is usually never the problem.


    Edit - just looked at your diary. I take it back. You need to up your protein! lol. It is even lower than the recommended amount NOT from the meat & supplement industry.

    Also good fat is not bad. Try taking some Extra virgin olive oil for fat and energy (watch out on how much you take though, 1-2 tablespoons a day is great.

    I might have to get some olive oil in there. Never really occurred to me for some reason! And yes more protein! I intend to up it as soon as I get some ideas for recipes.
  • brendadale1
    brendadale1 Posts: 90 Member
    i agree with what she stated:)
  • Energizer06
    Energizer06 Posts: 311 Member
    1 lb loss per week........You need to up your calories need at least 1 - 1.5g protein per lb body weight. I'm 38 at 176 pulling in over 200g protein per day. Most people underestimate what the burn. Find your TDEE and subtract 500calories for 1 lb of weight loss. Customize your goals to 40-45% protein 30carbs and 25% fat.....Hit the weights and you'll get some arms, legs and abs. log your exercise and eat all of your calories for the day. 2-11-13 it looks like you were 600 cals short. Your probably somewhere around 2200 - 2300 cals per day. Burning close to 2600-2800. EAT MAN EAT. 90% of the people who try to lose weight don't eat enough. Listen to you body. Every 10 lb loss you should readjust your goals. GET OFF THE DAMN SCALE. IT's %BF
  • elisa123gal
    elisa123gal Posts: 4,333 Member
    if you feel weak..you most likely are not eating enough...please do..it will change your experience.
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