Extreme Vanity Sizing at Target! TWO+ sizes too low!
McKayMachina
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I would love to believe I am wearing a size 8 right now, but let's get real. I'm 5'2" and 172 lbs. with much of my extra weight in my *kitten* and thighs.
I bought two pairs of size 8 jeans from Target (Merona brand) in two different fits. One is tight (low-rise) and the other fits perfectly (mid-waist).
But in a designer brand and a few other pairs of jeans I've got without all the elastic/give, I'm a size 12. That's a pretty big difference.
I'd really love to find out what size I TRULY am - even if it's like a 16! - but it just seems impossible! I know people throw numbers around a lot - such as, a size 4 is a 28" waist - but where does THAT number come from? And where is that waist? Natural waist at the narrowest point? That's like 2" above my belly button! Or where I wear my jeans (barely above the butt crack)? My chest/hips are wide in relation to my waist (in true hourglass fashion) and I don't think that's fair!
Does anyone know where to find a size chart that spans the better part of the last century so I can ACTUALLY know where I stand???
P.S.: Fair warning about Target's insidious obesity-furthering vanity sizing practices!
P.P.S.: If I can find plus sizes (no matter how keenly disguised) in JEANS, why can't Target seem to make a bathing suit top that's bigger than a small B??? XL ought to be at LEAST a D.
I bought two pairs of size 8 jeans from Target (Merona brand) in two different fits. One is tight (low-rise) and the other fits perfectly (mid-waist).
But in a designer brand and a few other pairs of jeans I've got without all the elastic/give, I'm a size 12. That's a pretty big difference.
I'd really love to find out what size I TRULY am - even if it's like a 16! - but it just seems impossible! I know people throw numbers around a lot - such as, a size 4 is a 28" waist - but where does THAT number come from? And where is that waist? Natural waist at the narrowest point? That's like 2" above my belly button! Or where I wear my jeans (barely above the butt crack)? My chest/hips are wide in relation to my waist (in true hourglass fashion) and I don't think that's fair!
Does anyone know where to find a size chart that spans the better part of the last century so I can ACTUALLY know where I stand???
P.S.: Fair warning about Target's insidious obesity-furthering vanity sizing practices!
P.P.S.: If I can find plus sizes (no matter how keenly disguised) in JEANS, why can't Target seem to make a bathing suit top that's bigger than a small B??? XL ought to be at LEAST a D.
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My personal experience with Target is quite the opposite. I have to wear a size 18 or XXL at Target and nearly everywhere else I wear a 16, XL or even L depending on the cut. When buying clothes now I focus on the fit not the number on the tag, it is so inconsistent sometimes.0
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I have size 8 gym tights and size 12 denim shorts and I bought a size 10 jacket the other day the number on the tag means nothing!!!0
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I hate vanity sizing SO MUCH because it created confusion. I wish womens clothing was like mens, a 32 waist is a 32 waist. but at walmart I am an 18, at target I am a 20, in designer clothes I am a 22 or a 24 depending on how bloated I am. I don't care about the number on my jeans, I just want a predictable fit.0
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I agree with the low-rise issue.. I don't buy low rise pants, too depressing. I am bottom heavy an 18.. In low-rise I have to go to a 20 or 22 if I can even find that cut in that size.
low rise makes no sense at my size. As a size 18 I will not go to muffin top territory and wear tight or stomach showing tops with low rise. To be honest, I find low-rise uncomfortable.. Especially while sitting.. and i hate havingt my back sticking out.
Target sizes I found not too off.0 -
P.P.S.: If I can find plus sizes (no matter how keenly disguised) in JEANS, why can't Target seem to make a bathing suit top that's bigger than a small B??? XL ought to be at LEAST a D.
I need to shop at Target apparenly, I'm more than an XL (probably 2x) but need a B cup. Not everybody has the boobs to match their butts!
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...I know people throw numbers around a lot - such as, a size 4 is a 28" waist - but where does THAT number come from?
Dang! If a 28" waist is a size 4, then how come I'm a size 8? I'm 130 pds and 5'7" and I have a 28" waist. Maybe it goes by hip size. I'm 37" in the hip. Who knows...0 -
if you're 172 lbs, you might want to consider wearing your pants a little higher than barely above your *kitten* crack.
Oh, look, everyone! Snark on the internet! How novel!
You don't know anything about my body shape. I'm not wearing ultra low-rise jeans while muffin-topping over them. It's the way my body is proportioned. If I want something to even remotely fit in the *kitten*, it ends up being ENORMOUS in the waist to the point of actually having to fold the fabric at the waist under the belt like a pleat.
I don't spill over my pants or have crack hanging out.
You need to cheer up or something and quit being a jerk - which is easy to do in the comfort of your online anonymity - I get it.
Did you know that everyone's body is...gasp...DIFFERENT?!0 -
P.S.: Was it REALLY necessary to zero in on that one point to insult me instead of actually contributing to the thread?0
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When buying clothes now I focus on the fit not the number on the tag, it is so inconsistent sometimes.
Inconsistent is the best way to put it. And yeah, I have gotten used to just picking up a 4-size (or so) range of one article of clothing and just seeing what fits in the dressing room.
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I have size 8 gym tights and size 12 denim shorts and I bought a size 10 jacket the other day the number on the tag means nothing!!!
Exactly! It's all over the place!
Don't even get me started on shoes! lol0 -
I just want a predictable fit.
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I agree with the low-rise issue.. I don't buy low rise pants, too depressing. I am bottom heavy an 18.. In low-rise I have to go to a 20 or 22 if I can even find that cut in that size.
low rise makes no sense at my size. As a size 18 I will not go to muffin top territory and wear tight or stomach showing tops with low rise. To be honest, I find low-rise uncomfortable.. Especially while sitting.. and i hate havingt my back sticking out.
Target sizes I found not too off.
Yeah, I guess low-rise fits everyone differently. Regular waist pants go up to ABOVE my bellybutton, so, for whatever reason, low-rise jeans fit just right without showing off any whaletail or creating a muffin top. Which is very strange because I have a big butt. You'd think the opposite would be true. Just goes to show how different everyone's body can be!0 -
if you're 172 lbs, you might want to consider wearing your pants a little higher than barely above your *kitten* crack.
Oh, look, everyone! Snark on the internet! How novel!
You don't know anything about my body shape. I'm not wearing ultra low-rise jeans while muffin-topping over them. It's the way my body is proportioned. If I want something to even remotely fit in the *kitten*, it ends up being ENORMOUS in the waist to the point of actually having to fold the fabric at the waist under the belt like a pleat.
I don't spill over my pants or have crack hanging out.
You need to cheer up or something and quit being a jerk - which is easy to do in the comfort of your online anonymity - I get it.
Did you know that everyone's body is...gasp...DIFFERENT?!
Good for you and my thoughts exactly!
I don't have a good answer for you on sizing. It ranges so dramatically from store to store and I really don't believe there exists a true size chart any longer.
Great work!0 -
Good for you and my thoughts exactly!
I don't have a good answer for you on sizing. It ranges so dramatically from store to store and I really don't believe there exists a true size chart any longer.
Great work!
Thank you. :flowerforyou:
And, you're right. There really ISN'T a true size chart! Such a bummer!
Thank you again.
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if you're 172 lbs, you might want to consider wearing your pants a little higher than barely above your *kitten* crack.
Oh, look, everyone! Snark on the internet! How novel!
You don't know anything about my body shape. I'm not wearing ultra low-rise jeans while muffin-topping over them. It's the way my body is proportioned. If I want something to even remotely fit in the *kitten*, it ends up being ENORMOUS in the waist to the point of actually having to fold the fabric at the waist under the belt like a pleat.
I don't spill over my pants or have crack hanging out.
You need to cheer up or something and quit being a jerk - which is easy to do in the comfort of your online anonymity - I get it.
Did you know that everyone's body is...gasp...DIFFERENT?!
BAM0 -
Its that way everywhere. I'm 5'9" and weigh approx. 145. I'm a size 6 or 8 but in some "mall" stores I can wear a size 2 or 4 and in designer items like Tom Ford, Chanel, St. John, Versace, etc. I wear the biggest size they make. In Tom Ford (who I love) I only can wear a few items and personally only own 2 dresses and one pair of pants because they run so small. Its crazy how small designer clothes run and how big the mid-priced stores run. I'm not overweight at all and yet there are some designers I can't wear
its frustrating. Not everyone can be tall and a size 0, def not me!! 0 -
The best you can do to figure out your size is look at a simplicity, vogue, butterick, or mccall's pattern. The measurements are right on the back. They're the only ones who can't really do the vanity thing because people need to be able to know which size to make, so they have to be consistent.
Unless you sew, though, I'm not sure what difference it really makes; clothing differs so much from store to store now that the number is really only a suggestion.0 -
Good post! Ignore the idiots, people sat on their computer being vile....so nasty. You buy whatever you want, and I am sure you will look amazing. Go girl xxxx
To all the nasty small minded people, "go boil your head" !!!0 -
Have you heard of the me-ality booths? It does a full body scan and supposedly tells you what your true jean size is(amongst other clothes).I went to one at the mall in a chicago suburb.
I was a size 2 in some brands, and a size 4 in others. It was interesting to see!0 -
if you're 172 lbs, you might want to consider wearing your pants a little higher than barely above your *kitten* crack.
Incredibly rude and unnecessary. McKay actually carries her weight well, and I'm envious!
Using the forums to pick on someone says an awful lot about you. Take it elsewhere.0 -
I wish womens clothing was like mens, a 32 waist is a 32 waist.
Lies!!!
I'm wearing three different pants sizes and two different shirt sizes. I also have a couple shirts in the larger of those two sizes that I can't even button.
Clothing sizing is bad all around.0 -
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if you're 172 lbs, you might want to consider wearing your pants a little higher than barely above your *kitten* crack.
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Wow, rude much?0 -
She wasn't asking for you fashion advice...0
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I have many different sized jeans in my closet, from size 4 to 8.
They all fit.
From all different brands.
No consistancy AT ALL!0 -
P.S.: Was it REALLY necessary to zero in on that one point to insult me instead of actually contributing to the thread?
I agree. This goes on waaaay too often on here. Some just need to keep their mouth shut!!
Sizing in different stores and brands is super annoying. But like most said, as long as you feel comfortable, that's what counts! I have some pants that are 16, and some that are 12, and they fit the same!!
Sizes have definately shrunk these days!!0 -
I'm having the same issue. Even the mens jeans I bought recently are vanity sized. I checked by measuring.
Right now I have a bunch of size 6s and even a size 4 I can fit into and I know perfectly well that the last time I was this size I was an 8.
I also know that when I'm between 115 and 125 I'm a 4 or a 6 and quite happy and healthy at that weight. But I haven't been on the lower end of the 120s for over ten years. So I wonder, am I going to end up a 2 now because of the vanity sizing?0 -
There's no way you'll ever figure it all out. Sizes at every store and with every brand are so different. It's quite bothersome.0
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I loved the article below on the history of women's clothing sizes. It helped me understand why we can't just go in waist and length like men's clothing. It still sucks though! The year I got married I wore a size 4 or 6. I was devastated when they fit my wedding dress as a size 12! The women who took my measurements said it was my boobs. My boobs were a 12 - my waist was a 6. I definitely needed alterations later!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_standard_clothing_size0 -
P.S.: Was it REALLY necessary to zero in on that one point to insult me instead of actually contributing to the thread?
I agree. This goes on waaaay too often on here. Some just need to keep their mouth shut!!
Sizing in different stores and brands is super annoying. But like most said, as long as you feel comfortable, that's what counts! I have some pants that are 16, and some that are 12, and they fit the same!!
Sizes have definately shrunk these days!!0 -
I went to target last night actually and found their curvy fit 4 to fit me realllly good. Its the lower rise, comes to about an inch under my belly button, and has no gap in the *kitten* on the waist band. My deal is that, im used to jeans coming up further on my backend, and these sit right at the hipbones and are lower on the curve of my butt, so it makes me uncomfortable (but no crack showing or blubber poppin out the back). DH last night when i showed him said they looked great and there was nothing wrong with it and when I tried to explain to him the whole butt thing he said...yes dear that would be the mom jean thing. BUT THATS HOW I GREW UP WEARING JEANS!!! Anyway. Dunno about the vanity sizing being off. Im pushing into a 12 in most places, and totally can wear a 12 if i can find a curvy fit and i also am 172 but am 5'2. Oh and the size thing has to do with the spandex in the jeans. These that i found were 99% cotton, so they will give a bit with wear, but the way spandexy types usually can go down further in sizes. It jsut depends on what they are made of sometimes too.0
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