Orthorexia

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Found this on another message board just wanted to know what you guys thought.



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Published: May 24, 2010
Updated: May 24, 2010
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A few months ago, Peggy Moe would never consider fast food, like Mexican take out. She’s orthorexic ... a person so consumed by healthy eating, it actually makes them sick.

“It is a twist of an eating disorder that where a patient is so fixated on eating pure or eating clean,“ Jill Brown, a registered dietician, said.

“It kind of snowballed into everything that I ate had to be organic and pure and non processed,“ Moe said.

Orthorexia is not an official medical diagnosis. The word, literally means correct appetite. However, due to organic and health food trends, eating disorder specialists are seeing more patients like Peggy who take it to the extreme.

“It takes over and it interferes with relationships and they obsess about it. There’s a certain righteousness that goes along with it. Judgmental. They judge how others eat,“ Brown said.
It isolated Peggy and broke up some relationships.

Moe said, “I would always say, ‘You shouldn’t feed your kids any of this. You should eat organic.“

Her food rules and restrictions caused her to drop 20 pounds off an already thin frame.

Despite seemingly healthy diets, orthorexics are often malnourished. The habit also cost the single mom 120 dollars a week in groceries.

“I had to drive forty minutes to the nearest grocery store that had all organic foods and I had to keep it on supply so whenever I was at someone else’s house I brought my own food,“ Moe said.

Orthorexia borders on obsessive compulsive disorder and often the person has a history of eating disorders.

Moe said, “I was originally anorexic, and then it turned into exercise bulimia and every time I thought I was free of the eating disorder, it just morphed into something else.“




Published on Psychology Today (http://www.psychologytoday.com)

Orthorexia: Too Healthy?
by Erik Strand
Created Dec 2 2004 - 1:00am
What is orthorexia?

The term orthorexia is used by some eating-disorder specialists to describe an unhealthy fixation with healthy eating. While not an officially recognized disorder, it is similar to several serious diagnoses. Like anorexia, it often involves severe weight loss, but so-called orthorexics are obsessed with food quality, rather than quantity, and strive for personal purity in their eating habits rather than for a thin physique.

The word orthorexia was coined in 1997 by Colorado alternative medicine specialist Steven Bratman. Implicit in the description are traits that resemble obsessive-compulsive disorder, since sufferers devote excessive attention to their own strict rules and often spend hours each day worrying about tomorrow's meals. Such a person may find himself socially isolated because he doesn't indulge in everyday dishes. "If your focus on healthy eating is interfering with your happiness and social life," says Bratman, "you might have a problem."

Although many experts believe orthorexia may be a genuine concern, some think it's not a clinically useful diagnosis. "I've had many patients who are bent on absolute purity, down to the last little vitamin," says Joel Jahraus, medical director of Remuda Life Programs in Phoenix, Arizona. "But there's already a name for it: anorexia." Douglas Bunnell, president of the National Eating Disorders Association, agrees that while orthorexia may be important as a lay concept, in terms of treatment it differs from anorexia only in the finer points.

With almost 65 percent of Americans overweight, the hazards of eating too healthfully may seem like nit-picking. But Bunnell sees a hidden danger in the public focus on obesity: undue anxiety. Whether or not you label them orthorexic, certain people are psychologically vulnerable to becoming too rigid in their eating, he says.

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  • heathersmilez
    heathersmilez Posts: 2,579 Member
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    Very interesting, thanks for posting!
  • cfischer81
    cfischer81 Posts: 111 Member
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    I saw a program on this on TV one time. There must be something to it because all the people were 30-40 under weight. There looked like VERY sick anorexics. On lady was like 86 lbs and had to be hospitalized. It was scary to see.
  • ZekeandKyliesMom
    ZekeandKyliesMom Posts: 71 Member
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    On the message board that I got it from alot of the ladies are thinking that the problem is not with eating overly healthy but with the OCD aspect of it.
  • Crysta1976
    Crysta1976 Posts: 184 Member
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    very interesting....
  • ANewLucia
    ANewLucia Posts: 2,081 Member
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    Wow, had no idea...
  • fitinyoga14
    fitinyoga14 Posts: 448 Member
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    if there truly is such thing as orthorexia, i most likely have it. however i'm proud of my body and the way i take care of it, even if i am a little compulsive about it sometimes. Eating healthy is like a second job these days, so no wonder there's so many people (myself included) who dedicate themselves to spending large amounts of energy on eating healthy. Should the dedication actually be considered a mental problem??? i'm not so sure.
  • ZekeandKyliesMom
    ZekeandKyliesMom Posts: 71 Member
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    if there truly is such thing as orthorexia, i most likely have it. however i'm proud of my body and the way i take care of it, even if i am a little compulsive about it sometimes. Eating healthy is like a second job these days, so no wonder there's so many people (myself included) who dedicate themselves to spending large amounts of energy on eating healthy. Should the dedication actually be considered a mental problem??? i'm not so sure.

    From what I have seen of this today is that the ones who were losing tones of weight and were malnurished already had OCD to begin with so it had more to do with that than the healthy food.
  • valeriebpdx
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    I think orthorexia is real and that it's an issue. Some people might say that I am just not disciplined enough if I am thinking this way (and I am absolutely not as clean an eater as I would like to be yet), but to me it is about control, letting go, and, like you all talk about on this board, accepting that this is a whole lifelong program and not some short-term contest to see who can eat the cleanest. I think if you can't let go and enjoy a great dinner at a restaurant for your anniversary, that is a problem. I get how once your body is used to good healthy food you wouldn't want fast food or Oreos anymore, and that's great. But if folks can't enjoy a piece of homemade pie on Thanksgiving or a glass of champagne at a wedding (if you do that) or a great steak on a special occasion or whatever, they are limiting themselves and do not have as good a handle on healthy eating as a lifestyle as they claim--that is just white-knuckling your way through the change and is not sustainable.
  • leavinglasvegas
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    if there truly is such thing as orthorexia, i most likely have it. however i'm proud of my body and the way i take care of it, even if i am a little compulsive about it sometimes. Eating healthy is like a second job these days, so no wonder there's so many people (myself included) who dedicate themselves to spending large amounts of energy on eating healthy. Should the dedication actually be considered a mental problem??? i'm not so sure.

    If it interferes with your daily life, relationships, and you lose weight and are malnourished....Yes. Its the same thing that seperates a dieter from and anorexic, an exercise enthusiast from an exercise bulimic.

    There are OCD attributes to all eating disorders. I spent 30 days inpatient for anorexia and all 25 of the other patients were also diagnosed with OCD.
  • Laceylala
    Laceylala Posts: 3,094 Member
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    I have a cousin who is on a raw foods diet and keeps her three kids on it. Normally this would be okay but the kids get so little protein in their diets that they are almost to the point of malnourishment. Their doctors, naturopathic, homeopathic and Md had all told her that they need some form of protein and carbs in the forms of grains but she's really gone to the extreme. No nuts, no grians except quinoa, just literally fruits and vegetables. The kids have behavior issues that partially stem from not getting enough nutrients in their tiny tiny bodies. It is really frustrating to watch.

    I think it is great to treat your body kindly and really watch what you put into it. But there is a BIG difference between being obsessive about what you eat and the far extreme of undernourishment.
  • raelbee
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    I knew someone with the issue described in the articles. She was intense, to say the least, about her eating habits. In grad school she wouldn't join in a mindful eating exercise with the rest of the class unless she could be 100% positive the apple was organic, and treated all her meals that way. It got old for everyone around her....and totally isolated her in social situations. Everything in moderation :)
  • fitinyoga14
    fitinyoga14 Posts: 448 Member
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    maybe you guys can help me out. i really don't know where i stand on this spectrum of healthy eater to orthorexia.

    my doctor recently told me my weight was getting pretty low and that it would be dangerous to lose anymore. i avoid dining out, but i do eat out sometimes (i feel its stressful though). i would consider myself a perfectionist. i plan my meals ahead a week at a time and if i'm not at home to eat a meal, i prepare it ahead of time and take it with me. i generally feel that allowing other people to prepare a meal for me is stressful because i can't control what is in it.

    i'm currently happy with my weight and want to maintain. no relationships in my life have been damaged due to my 'lifestyle'. i feel that my eating habits do not interfere with daily life as long as i plan ahead. i do not skip meals or cut out entire food groups. i physically feel better than ever and i blame that on the fact that my body is never exposed to junk.

    what do you guys think?
  • kdiamond
    kdiamond Posts: 3,329 Member
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    maybe you guys can help me out. i really don't know where i stand on this spectrum of healthy eater to orthorexia.

    my doctor recently told me my weight was getting pretty low and that it would be dangerous to lose anymore. i avoid dining out, but i do eat out sometimes (i feel its stressful though). i would consider myself a perfectionist. i plan my meals ahead a week at a time and if i'm not at home to eat a meal, i prepare it ahead of time and take it with me. i generally feel that allowing other people to prepare a meal for me is stressful because i can't control what is in it.

    i'm currently happy with my weight and want to maintain. no relationships in my life have been damaged due to my 'lifestyle'. i feel that my eating habits do not interfere with daily life as long as i plan ahead. i do not skip meals or cut out entire food groups. i physically feel better than ever and i blame that on the fact that my body is never exposed to junk.

    what do you guys think?

    I am like this to an extent, but I don't let it get in the way of regular life. When I can help it (90% of the time) I prepare my own meals, or my kids' meals, or we eat at a place where I know what's in the food. I don't see anything wrong with this. I'm happy, healthy and look good and so do my kids. I agree my body feels so much better without junk! When I do indulge on occasion, I have the worst stomachache so that has to be telling me something!

    Who cares what others think? I am sure this complex exists in a lot of people, as long as you're not mentally or physically ill I don't see any problems with doing what you want.
  • DeathIsMyGift
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    This reminds me of my girlfriend. Not to the point where she obsesses over it but she's very picky about what she eats. However, she can throw down some ice cream, mexican food, pizza, etc. I'd say 90% of the time she is very healthy. She doesn't judge others though. I see nothing wrong with the lifestyle. Just like all things, if done in moderation it's ok. In fact, her eating habits have helped me tremendously with my weight loss journey. Without her I don't think it would be as easy as it is for me. I use to be a fast food junkie. I literally had Taco Bell every night for dinner. Eating healthy is smart---being a freak about it is not.
    just by 1/2 cent.
  • workoutqueen628
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    gymnast2010, kudos to you for fueling your body with healthy food. It's great that you're dedicated to living a healthy lifestyle, but I think you probably don't need to be logging your food on this site if you do not need to lose weight. For your own sanity, I would not log for a week or so- seems like you have a routine in place, so it won't hurt you to not do so. Also, it will help you become less OCD about hitting a certain calories limit or whatever. In sum, eat what you like and don't worry about calories!! And have a healthy treat every now and then- organic chocolate is delicious! I have seen too many of my friends lose weight when they didn't need to- the thin, sunken look is really not attractive!
  • leavinglasvegas
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    As a survivor of an eating disorder and a student working towards a BSW then and MSW I am not ashamed to say I see a therapist. Even my therapist sees a therapist. Its more than just lying on a couch and talking about your mom issues. Everyone needs a safe place to vent to an unbiased, qualified person every now and again.

    If you are questioning whether or not this applies to you, schedule an appointment with a qualified therapist and get a professional opinion. Eating healthy is one thing, but if it becomes obsessive, there very well could be something else going on. Be it emotional, spiritual, or physiological. It may not be an eating disorder, but it could border one and its best to stop it asap!

    A social worker will take your entire lifestyle into consideration. Not just the psychological stuff. That is helpful in alot of ways, especially because they are not under pressure to push meds.

    This website can give you information and help you find a qualified professional. http://www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/

    I will stress that most doctors are not properly trained in the treatment and diagnosis of any eating disorder, so it EXTREMELY important to find someone who knows how these things work. Most therapists will even work on a sliding scale if you are uninsured or your insurance won't cover them. My thereapist will see me for just $40. Some will see you for free just to get you help if you can't afford anything. Its not advertised, but help is out there. Take it whether you know you have a problem, or you just think you might.
  • Laceylala
    Laceylala Posts: 3,094 Member
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    maybe you guys can help me out. i really don't know where i stand on this spectrum of healthy eater to orthorexia.

    my doctor recently told me my weight was getting pretty low and that it would be dangerous to lose anymore. i avoid dining out, but i do eat out sometimes (i feel its stressful though). i would consider myself a perfectionist. i plan my meals ahead a week at a time and if i'm not at home to eat a meal, i prepare it ahead of time and take it with me. i generally feel that allowing other people to prepare a meal for me is stressful because i can't control what is in it.

    i'm currently happy with my weight and want to maintain. no relationships in my life have been damaged due to my 'lifestyle'. i feel that my eating habits do not interfere with daily life as long as i plan ahead. i do not skip meals or cut out entire food groups. i physically feel better than ever and i blame that on the fact that my body is never exposed to junk.

    what do you guys think?

    I am like this to an extent, but I don't let it get in the way of regular life. When I can help it (90% of the time) I prepare my own meals, or my kids' meals, or we eat at a place where I know what's in the food. I don't see anything wrong with this. I'm happy, healthy and look good and so do my kids. I agree my body feels so much better without junk! When I do indulge on occasion, I have the worst stomachache so that has to be telling me something!

    Who cares what others think? I am sure this complex exists in a lot of people, as long as you're not mentally or physically ill I don't see any problems with doing what you want.

    I also plan my meals a week ahead, get all the groceries, do as much food prep/cooking on Sunday as possible. It makes the week easier. We generally eat out at places we know what is in the food and when we go we enjoy it.

    I think that as long as your weight is healthy and you can maintain that then you are probably doing okay. I am no doctor of course however. If your doc told you your weight is getting low then take his advice and monitor that so it doesn't drop any lower. And then if you have issues with that, then go back and talk to him again about it and see what he thinks.
  • fitinyoga14
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    thank you for all the support everyone!!! everyone's advice really helps! i love you mfp-ers!