Why is there an obesity epidemic?

Why is 2/3 of the US overweight and 1/3 obese?


I have read too many quack “Garry Taubes” inspired ideas of carbohydrates etc., on MFP. But all these ideas are selectively using data and do not follow basic scientific principles, like calorie in and calorie out. Note if you reject basic science or evolution, think that there is a government/industry conspiracy making us fat and sick, please stop reading and go to your favorite quack blog. I don’t want to argue about basic scientific facts.





But the question is there, why is there the worldwide universal increase in obesity?


The most common hypothesis I have seen is the thrifty gene idea. We humans over consume food to be ready for lean periods. Or in other words evolution will favor humans that have genes that allow us to more efficiently use energy. Thus the obesity increase is because we just have too much food available and the lean times never arrive. And our food industry is very good at providing us with so much tempting, cheap, readily available food that we just can’t help ourselves. If this is true, well then we are pretty much stuck with the obesity epidemic, unless we regulate the food industry to make the food less tempting/available/cheap so that we lower energy intake.


Alternatively, what about antibiotics? Antibiotic use started in the 1950 and now are widely used by humans and also, even more, in the animal food industry. Antibiotics are a major food supplement, because antibiotics lead to higher animal weight gain, i.e. animals gain more weight per unit food intake. Or in other words, animals get fatter on the same amount of food. This is likely caused by evolutionary microbial community population changes. I can see that within a normal gut microbial population, evolution will favor those microbes that use energy/nutrients most efficient, which may lead to lower energy available for the host. Whereas antibiotic use will select for antibiotic resistance and not energy efficiency. Thus, an antibiotic influenced microbial gut fauna will be less efficient in using energy, leaving more for the host, allowing the host to absorb more energy from the food that it eats.

Of cause this also works the other way around, to increase weight gain, add an antibiotic to your diet (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/31/health/antibiotics-can-save-lives-of-severely-malnourished-children-studies-find.html?_r=0 )


Thus getting fat is, not just, the result of calories in, calories out. We need to consider the difference between the calories that we eat, the calories that we actually absorb and that we use, something that MFP can’t track. And our gut microbes are the key factor in this. And there are a lot of recent articles showing all kinds of correlations between the gut microbial fauna and obesity, diabetes, etc.

Let’s call this the antibiotic microbial selection - induced obesity hypothesis. (And of course there are very few original ideas anymore these days, there are articles arguing the same as I do here, see for instance (http://www.infektologia.hu/upload/infektologia/document/antib_growth.pdf)


So, if this is true, well than the use of all those antibiotics in the animal food industry is plain stupid, but just because of potentially creating antibiotic resistance in diseases (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/04/health/use-of-antibiotics-in-animals-raised-for-food-defies-scrutiny.html?pagewanted=all ), but also because antibiotic driven evolutionary microbial genetic changes may be driving the obesity epidemic.

Thus, if this is true, eliminating antibiotics as an animal food supplement has to be done, and all of us should limit antibiotic use as much as we can, especially in children.


Anything I am missing here?


And what other hypotheses explaining the obesity increase are out there?
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  • lilpoindexter
    lilpoindexter Posts: 1,122 Member
    Because food tastes good and we're intrinsically slobs with no self control.
  • savithny
    savithny Posts: 1,200 Member
    "the end of overeating" has a lot of interesting stuff on how modern food processing overcomes our body's natural balance. Left to ourselves, on a whole foods diet, most people naturally adjust their intake to account for larger, more caloric meals.

    But food processors very carefully layer on fat-salt-sweet at levels that literally freak out our body's ability to gauge satiation and calorie content. "In the wild" this would be a good thing -- things that sweet or fatty are so vanishingly rare that we need to take advantage of them when we find them, and gorge ourselves. But "in the wild" it would be okay because we wouldn't have access to those foods very often or for very long...

    "End of Overeating" and "Catchiing fire" also talk about how processing actually makes food more caloric -- heavily processed, finely chopped food is essentially "pre-chewed" and we actually extract more calories from it.
  • DebbieLyn63
    DebbieLyn63 Posts: 2,654 Member
    Because we eat too much and move too little. And society continues to raise the limit of what is considered an acceptable weight.
    Super-sized portions. Video games and computer usage. And the exorbitant amount of sugar and junk food they we consume every year. Doesn't take a lot of experts and testing to figure it out. Basically we have become a lazy society who wants immediate gratification and doesn't want to feel any discomfort or deny ourselves anything.
  • missjanetleigh
    missjanetleigh Posts: 149 Member
    I think it's the foods we eat boxed etc. Dr. Oz is already showing where the labels on some foods are wrong. Then you top the stress of the economy, and all the above.
  • eric_sg61
    eric_sg61 Posts: 2,925 Member
    Because we eat too much and move too little. .

    /end thread
  • I think cable television and the internet contribute greatly. As recently as the early 80s most homes only had a few television channels and only nerds used computers. Now people have hundreds of channels and the vast, endless diversion of the web to keep their butts sitting down instead of moving around. As a result, we literally stay still for a much larger percentage of our time than we ever did before.
  • smantha32
    smantha32 Posts: 6,990 Member
    I would guess:

    1. food companies fudging portion sizes on their packaging.

    2. fast food with no fiber and everything being supersized.

    3. over consumption of processed sugar since it's added to absolutely everything now. only 40 years ago people consumed about 100 pounds of sugar a year now it's closer to 200 pounds.

    4. laziness due to improvements in technology/sedentary lifestyles.
  • smantha32
    smantha32 Posts: 6,990 Member
    I think cable television and the internet contribute greatly. As recently as the early 80s most homes only had a few television channels and only nerds used computers. Now people have hundreds of channels and the vast, endless diversion of the web to keep their butts sitting down instead of moving around. As a result, we literally stay still for a much larger percentage of our time than we ever did before.

    yes.
  • benol1
    benol1 Posts: 867 Member
    The super-abundance of cheap energy-dense foods and the rise of a sedentary work culture and lifestyle.
    I think it has a lot to do with it.
  • fitfreakymom
    fitfreakymom Posts: 1,400 Member
    Because we eat too much and move too little. And society continues to raise the limit of what is considered an acceptable weight.
    Super-sized portions. Video games and computer usage. And the exorbitant amount of sugar and junk food they we consume every year. Doesn't take a lot of experts and testing to figure it out. Basically we have become a lazy society who wants immediate gratification and doesn't want to feel any discomfort or deny ourselves anything.

    this
  • WinnerVictorious
    WinnerVictorious Posts: 4,733 Member
    "they" are fattening us up so that we make more filling meals.

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  • 366to266
    366to266 Posts: 473 Member
    Waste of time thread.

    You immediately cite the cause, announce that you stubbornly refuse to believe it, and then want people to waste their time thinking up a heap of wrong answers?

    <sigh>
  • fitfreakymom
    fitfreakymom Posts: 1,400 Member
    I think cable television and the internet contribute greatly. As recently as the early 80s most homes only had a few television channels and only nerds used computers. Now people have hundreds of channels and the vast, endless diversion of the web to keep their butts sitting down instead of moving around. As a result, we literally stay still for a much larger percentage of our time than we ever did before.

    yes.

    and this
  • bethira
    bethira Posts: 132 Member
    http://littledutchwife.com/2013/02/20/new-york-times-nutritional-conspiracy-a-look-behind-the-scenes-at-the-trickery-employed-the-get-you-to-eat-cheetos/

    Take this article for what it is, and I'm not saying it explains it all, but let's face it. Processed foods are yummy, convenient and designed to make us overeat. Would I rather eat an oreo or a homemade whoopee pie? The whoopee pie, or course, but that requires a lot of time and effort to create, where the oreo gives me the same basic concept by wandering to the cupboard and opening a bag. And then once that bag is open, it's really darned easy to just keep consuming ... and consuming ... and consuming.

    Few would argue that the average American just doesn't exercise enough and eats too much, but the decks are stacked against us. Unless we are willing to walk away completely from every frozen dinner, fast food place and convenience food we have to learn to mix these foods with smart choices, and most people will not or cannot make those choices.

    Just one fatty's opinion.
  • JipsyJudy
    JipsyJudy Posts: 268 Member
    I think a lot of it has to do with the processed food industry. The advertising they do is a big part of it, but I also think it's addictive. If a person who has only eaten home grown, home cooked food all his life eats a Starbucks brownie or a packaged chocolate chip cookie he's probably going to want another one. And thus the domino sequence toward obesity begins for him. Also, the processed food industry is a big part of why we associate eating with happiness. We see that connection made all the time, in ads, and movies, in TV shows, and increasingly in novels! (There are entire classes in writers workshops on how to inject food and eating into your novel to keep your reader engaged in what the character is doing.) And finally the processed food industry has made us a world of grazers who eat all day long and in all circumstances.

    I just started reading a book, recommended by a friend here, called The Thin Commandments. It has great insights into the phenomenon of food carvings and overeating. I'm only halfway through, and I'm already recommending it.
  • redheaddee
    redheaddee Posts: 2,005 Member
    Because big macs taste good and exercise is hard :laugh:
  • "they" are fattening us up so that we make more filling meals.

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    Well...soylent green *is* people.
  • redheaddee
    redheaddee Posts: 2,005 Member
    Or could be this...Taken at a local McDs (seriously, I took this picture myself.)
    mcdonalds_zps0f29316f.jpg
  • msleanlegs
    msleanlegs Posts: 188 Member
    I think part of the problem is our mindset as a society. There's too much peer pressure to eat junk and be lazy. Not saying there aren't people doing the right thing diet-wise out there, but I know with my own extended family and friends and neighbors, people think you're wasting time attempting to eat healthy and exercise. The junk food kills slowly enough that people will blame everything but their eating habits on whatever obesity-related disease they obtain. Or they'll find that one anomaly and say "See! He's been eating a dozen ding dongs a day for 30 years and his cholesterol is just fine." Anything to avoid facing the hard truth that eating junk and not exercising is like playing russian roulette with your health - except the bullets to blanks ratio has been reversed.
  • Duck_Puddle
    Duck_Puddle Posts: 3,237 Member
    Wait. So I got morbidly obese because of the antibiotics I took for 2 weeks of the last 20 years and not because I sat on my fat @ss eating 4k calories a day? Well thank god! For a minute I thought I got fat cause I ate too much and didn't exercise.

    PS-obesity isn't a "worldwide" problem.
  • CrazyTrackLady
    CrazyTrackLady Posts: 1,337 Member
    Because Americans aren't satisfied unless the portions of food they are purchasing and shoving down their overstretched gullets is large enough to justify the price. Because it's easier to run to the local fast food chain and buy dinner than actually learning the difference between a chiffonade and a remoulade. Because mommy and/or daddy think it's perfectly okay to set junior down in front of a video game with a cold 20 oz pop, 3 hot dogs and a bag of cheetoes and call that "dinner and a show". Because doctors aren't willing to tell said mommy and/or daddy "Your kid is obese and you need to stop letting him shove so much crap food down his gullet". And lastly, because Americans are unwilling to look the problem straight in the eyes and say: "We need to do something about this."
  • redheaddee
    redheaddee Posts: 2,005 Member
    Blame the Americans?

    No.

    Blame your own fat lazy butt for your own personal choices.

    Accountability. Look it up.
  • CrazyTrackLady
    CrazyTrackLady Posts: 1,337 Member
    Blame the Americans?

    No.

    Blame your own fat lazy butt for your own personal choices.

    Accountability. Look it up.

    Of which many Americans have...the obesity problem in America is far more expansive and problematic than the obesity problem elsewhere in the world. Our portions are too large, our food is too processed, and our couches are too comfortable.
  • benol1
    benol1 Posts: 867 Member
    Or could be this...Taken at a local McDs (seriously, I took this picture myself.)
    mcdonalds_zps0f29316f.jpg

    That is what you call "truth in advertising"!
  • redheaddee
    redheaddee Posts: 2,005 Member
    Blame the Americans?

    No.

    Blame your own fat lazy butt for your own personal choices.

    Accountability. Look it up.

    Of which many Americans have...the obesity problem in America is far more expansive and problematic than the obesity problem elsewhere in the world. Our portions are too large, our food is too processed, and our couches are too comfortable.

    True, but no one forces me to eat the entire portion. Huge proponent of personal responsibility. I do not blame Ben & Jerry for my fat butt. Or antibiotics. Or processed food. Or anything in the original post other than my own personal choices.
  • stephaniemejia1671
    stephaniemejia1671 Posts: 482 Member
    "they" are fattening us up so that we make more filling meals.

    tumblr_m45igv2Vxk1r59dzgo1_400.jpg

    LMAO
  • stephaniemejia1671
    stephaniemejia1671 Posts: 482 Member
    EVERYTHING can be delivered now and is available at the click of a mouse.
  • paperpudding
    paperpudding Posts: 9,282 Member
    Why is 2/3 of the US overweight and 1/3 obese?


    But the question is there, why is there the worldwide universal increase in obesity?


    I am not in America and have never been there - but if 2/3 are overweight and 1/3 are obese, that means nobody is normal weight or underweight as 3/3 equals the whole total??

    Surely your figures are not right - absolutely everyone cant be overweight or obese?

    Secondly as others have pointed out, there is NOT a world wide universal increase in obesity - there is a first world countries increase in obesity - I dont actually think there is much of an obesity problem in, say, Ethiopia or Somalia or Bangladesh.

    Thirdly add me to the group who believe the crux of the problem is people are eating more calories and doing less excercise.
    Thats it in a nutshell.

    Sure, there may be factors leading to that, such as more sedentary jobs, more computer games, less outdoor space if people live in high density housing, less time for home cooking etc - but crux of matter is still eating too much, moving too little.


    I do not believe antibiotic use has anything to do with it at all - I think that theory belongs in the whack job blogs you mentioned in first post.
  • Mr_Bad_Example
    Mr_Bad_Example Posts: 2,403 Member
    Because people like to eat and there is more than enough food to satisfy that desire. Eating is a pass time now, not a means to live. Not that there's anything wrong with enjoying eating - heck, I work out so I can eat more - but like in all things, moderation is the key.
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