SMITH MACHINE SQUATS!?!? Love or hate em!?!?!

I find the smith machine awkward and don't use it.
Can you not do barbell back squats due to some injury?
Do you have access to a leg press? I'd use a leg press; or just super high rep bodyweight squats before using the smith machine.

I've been doing smith machine squats and I find them a lot more comfortable than barbell squats. Though, I do plan to transition to regular squats pretty soon.

I use the Smith Machine only because there are no free weight areas to do regular weighted squats. Irritating to say the least.

I'm still getting results using the Smith Machine, my *kitten* is proof. It works for me, but if I had the option I wouldn't use it.

I do them when the squat rack is in use and I don't want to wait. They'll work. I think the worst part is you might be tempted to do more weight than you should.

The only reason I would use a smith is if my gym didn't have squat racks. In which case, I would find a new gym.
Smith squats make my hips feel like they're going to explode.

people will bash the smith machine a lot on here and in general in the fitness community

But I know for a lot of people (planet fitness goers I believe) that is what they are used to - and while the bar might path in a way that is awkward for some there is no reason why you cant get a good workout/stimulation from a smith machine. Id much rather see someone doing ATG smith machine squats then the quarter squats i see all the time. If its what you can do then do it IMO

It's good to mix it up and incorporate machines into your workouts. If there's no squat racks available, but the smith is open I gladly go to it.

If you love squats you'll love doing them every which possible way. When I do squats twice a week, I may find that going to the smith is just better for the 2nd round.

http://stronglifts.com/smith-machine-squats-power-rack-free-weights/

Some gyms don't have Power Racks. Instead they have Smith Machines which look like Power Racks, but with a fixed bar. Some people will tell you the Smith Machine is safer than free weights since the bar can't fall on you.

Well this isn't true. You can get injured using the Smith Machine. And although you're using a bar, it's a machine. Meaning you'll get subpar results compared to free weights. Here are 10 reasons you shouldn't use the Smith Machine.


1. False Sense of Security. You'll tend to take more risks on the Smith Machine because the barbell is fixed. Putting on weights you might not be able to lift yet since you can stop it more easily anyway.

The Smith Machine isn't as safe as it looks. You can injure yourself if you don't watch what you're doing. Read this story & watch this video for examples of Smith Machine accidents.


2. Unnatural Movements. On a free weight Squat your body goes down in an arched path. Smith Machines force your body into fixed, unnatural movements patterns. This can cause injuries, especially with heavier weights.

New generation Smith Machines — like the Jones Smith Machine — try to solve the problem by allowing 3D movements, including front & backward movement. But they're still machines with drawbacks. Read on.


3, Knee Injuries. Knee pain from the Smith Machine is common. It forces your body into fixed movements patterns and places shearing loads on your knees. And it's hard to position yourself correctly under the bar.

Feet Position. Feet too much under the bar: more knee flexion and knee stress. Feet too much forward: more knee stress because they want to slide forward and your lower back gets in a weak position.
Hip Extension. You'll tend to lean against the fixed bar, causing less hip extension. Your hamstrings — knee stabilizers — will shut down. More shear force on your knees and thus more risks of ACL injuries.

4. Lower Back Injuries. The fixed bar tends to make you rest against it and the Smith Machine forces you into unnatural movements patterns.

Lower Back Stress. You're pushing your spinal erectors & neck muscles more against the bar. More back stress, especially with heavier weights.
Lower Back Rounding. Feet too far forward puts your lower back in a weak position and will tend to make your lower back round.

5. No Balance. The Smith Machine balances and stabilizes the weight for you since its bar is fixed. You won't strengthen your stabilizing muscles or improve balance & coordination. Things you need for daily activities & sports.


6. Less Strength. All exercises become easier and less stressful since the Smith Machine balances the weight for you. You won't get as strong. Expect to lift less weight when switching to free weights.


7. Less Muscle. If you aren't making gains: switching to free weights will often make you break that plateau. Free weights force you to balance the weight, making the exercise harder on your body. Bigger adaptive response.


8. Muscle Imbalances You only build strength in 1 plane since the bar is fixed. This causes muscle imbalances and increases the risks of injuries in the other undeveloped planes of movements.


9. Technique is Different. Common advice is to learn to Squat inside the Smith Machine before switching to free weights. The thinking behind this is that the Smith Machine is safer and helps with balance.

But it's a waste of time. Technique is different using free weights since you have to balance the weight yourself. You'll have to lower the weight when switching and relearn technique from scratch.


10. Less Potential. You can minimize some of the above problems. But even if you do, the Smith Machine remains less effective for strength and muscle gains. Instead of trying to minimize problems: do the exercises with most potential.

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Hate them.

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they have a smith machine at my gym, but I have been advised on here to do squats with dumbbells instead....interested to see more responses!

ETA: no power rack at my gym *sigh*

I love em!!! I get a great workout doing it that way and my *kitten* is showing major improvements doing them. I also do leg press and stiff leg deadlifts to so that also helps.

I like using it to warm up on leg day. I feel like I can go deeper to get my muscles stretched and loosened up before I start free weight squats, lunges, deadlifts, etc...