p90x AND the gym? overkill or ok?

I've been doing P90X with Les Mills Combat without any problems. *shrug*

My hubby and I have decided that since we are in MUCH better shape than we were the last time we attempted p90x, we would give it another go starting in March.

overtraining comes at a different point for everyone.

i'd say go for it except for the fact that you seem to say that you didn't get thru it the first time, maybe that means you shouldn't put much on top of it.

i lift three days a week on top of p90x and its tougher then i expected. i didn't if with insanity and for some reasons it didnt seem as difficult to go to the gym afterwards... i think lol.

I recommend that you take the recovery weeks off the gym and whatever else extra your doing tho.

you have to ask yourself... do i really need to workout that much? unless you training for a competition, the answer is probably 'no'. especially when you consider that the real key to getting ripped is holding onto the muslce you have while you burn fat. If you have a super huge defecit, its GOING to eat some muscle... so if you want to avoid that AND workout more, then your going to have to eat more and it kind of defeats the purpose (only really worth it if you are going to compete in a sport)

The problem with that is that it's not dependent upon fitness level. The simple facts are:

1. These workouts are very hard on your central nervous system which needs time to recover whether you feel like you have energy or don't.

2. You're slowing results because rest is what does the job, not the workouts themselves.

3. You are making yourself more prone to injury by not allowing muscles a minimum of 48 hours of rest, especially shoulders. Shoulders in particular need long rest periods in between high intensity workouts or else you weaken the tendons/ligaments there, and that doesn't recover like muscles do.

Point is, a lot of people who go through programs like P90X tend to forget about the importance of rest. Not allowing sufficient rest WILL slow results and WILL make you more prone to recovery. There are no exceptions to this. And you may think that because you're not totally wiped out the next day you've rest enough, but that is not the case. The body, and in particular, the central nervous system, doesn't work that way. Muscles and the CNS need rest periods that come in increments of days, not hours.

No pain no gain, it will require dedication, and if I losing some of my mass due to losing weight so be it we have three to four months of summer weather in North Dakota and I want to look good when I’m on the river.

This is true about no pain no gain. But if you don't honestly see the safety issues involved with pushing too hard and not allowing sufficient rest between workouts, then you have a _lot_ to learn.

I tried it by strategically scheduling each muscle groups. Basically giving 2-3 days rest(which was optimal for me) per muscle group. After 2 weeks of doing it, it was just redundant and I rather lift at the gym. I hated doing the body weight exercises to the point I kept on skipping it. Eventually cut out p90x because it was not efficient.

I think its an over kill if your doing the P90x workout correctly.

Also, I cant see having the time for both unless you don't have children. I am not a fan of Dads who dedicate more time to their body than their family.

Just my 2 cents.

I think it's overkill. I would do one or the other. Maybe even add a few sets of something if anything. I am not a fan of double workouts. But that's just me. I rather dial in my eating to get better results.

I tried it by strategically scheduling each muscle groups. Basically giving 2-3 days rest(which was optimal for me) per muscle group. After 2 weeks of doing it, it was just redundant and I rather lift at the gym. I hated doing the body weight exercises to the point I kept on skipping it. Eventually cut out p90x because it was not efficient.

P90X is definitely not efficient. They could have done a lot more with the program but they committed to making sure to use exercises that gave you a choice of bands or dumbbells, and in committing to that decision they also committed to an inefficient workout plan. That being said I personally believe that basic bodyweight exercises should be implemented in every training plan because they work the body in a different way than weights do and there aren't really any substitutes for basic pushups and pullups.

Totally agree with the pushups and pullups. It's the groucho walks and the super skaters made me think it was just silly for my personal goals.

As far as doing both, you can always modify those body weight exercises with machines and or DB's/BB's. However switching to chest to back then to chest to back isn't an ideal split in the bodybuilding community.

Totally agree with the pushups and pullups. It's the groucho walks and the super skaters made me think it was just silly for my personal goals.

As far as doing both, you can always modify those body weight exercises with machines and or DB's/BB's. However switching to chest to back then to chest to back isn't an ideal split in the bodybuilding community.

the leg exercises are a bit of a trip, i'll give you that. but for someone whos been marriend to sqauts and leg presses since high school, sqautting as deep as you can on one leg for high reps is pretty challenging and a breathe of fresh air.

P90X simply isn't designed to grow muscles... the nutrition guide only discusses eating at a defecit, so anyone wanting to add mass is barking up the wrong tree.

and all this 'if you can go to the gym after p90x/insanity then your not doing the program right/hard enough' is silly bull ****. Doubles and even tripples are the norm in college athletics.

I do Insanity 3 days a week and the gym 3 days a week. insanity is designed for 6 days a week but it was just too much for me. I like hybrid much better. ETA I would never do both in the same day.

met a girl on here that says the is doing p90x and insanity at the same time.

Not a hybrid, insanity in the morning, p90x in the afternoon. even i got to say thats crazy lol

I would say as long as you aren't in pain then its fine. You can never have too much exercise in my opinion. I'm jealous that you have enough time to do both!

Holy hell, I barely have the energy (and FOOD BUDGET) to do p90x.

Your body needs time to rest and recover, not just muscles and joints but your central nervous system too.

And remember more exercise = more calories burned = needing to eat more.

If I do plyometrics, I burn about 612 calories per my HRM. That's a big *kitten* burn and I would NOT want to go to the gym on top of that. I walk on average an hour a day for work, so if you really wanted to, I guess you could add some walking in?