Is gluten free a fad like fat free was?
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Two years ago there wasn't a single gluten free product in my grocery store, other than what was naturally so. Now, there's a whole aisle dedicated to it. Now I buy canned chicken, yogurt, and bags of rice that proudly claims it's gluten free. I find it impossible to believe that gluten intolerance, something that no one ever heard of even 5 years ago, is suddenly so pronounced. It's a fad. Every gluten free person I know ate bread just fine last year. On the diet they all claimed gluten caused them such tummy troubles. Funny enough, most of them stopped being gluten free eventually and magically no tummy troubles.0
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What do you think about all the info about gluten free? What about leaky gut syndrome?
I think gluten free is a fad for many. For others, it's necessary due to disease or intollerance.
There is no such thing as "leaky gut syndrome" in medicine. Some use it to refer to symptoms undiagnosed GI disorders, but it is not a diagnosis itself.
Here is an article about it, if you are interested: http://www.webmd.com/digestive-disorders/features/leaky-gut-syndrome0 -
For me legit... Allergy tests state I am allergic to: gluten, which includes barley, wheat, rye and on top of that...Oats, corn, rice, dairy, eggs. YIPEEEE!!!! I am a joy for a dinner date! I only go out for steaks, and shots of tequila
edit- because I forgot the oats...:l
And family members diagnosed with Celiac...0 -
If she was allergic to peanuts would they ask when you were finally going to feed her peanuts??!!!
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Actually, yes. You wouldn't believe the ignorance people have of food allergies. Some people have an "intolerance" of something, like dairy, and get an upset stomach and call it an allergy without ever having a medical diagnosis, and I think that's what perpetuates the beliefs out there. My 8 year old daughter has several food allergies that will literally kill her. We have to keep an epi-pen with us at all times, medical bracelets on her, the whole nine yards. She has ended up in the hospital more than once because of other people's mistakes. I get asked over and over again when she will "grow out" of her allergies (meanwhile, she keeps "growing into" more of them). It frustrates me because it gives her false hope. It's hard enough being 8 and going to birthday parties and being unable to eat cakes, cookies, ice cream, cupcakes, etc. Furthermore- and even more dangerous- ADULTS will try to slip her little "treats" containing her allergens. You have no idea how infuriating this is. These people will say that they were only giving her a "little bit". They seem to think that a bite or two is safe, and three or more bites isn't. Or they obviously seem to think I am just a silly, over-paranoid parent who tries to over-shelter my child and am making up this whole "allergy" business. My own mother seems to think I'm on some crazy fad diet and am putting my kids on it too, and she will try to give all my kids these treats. It's annoying enough to be undermined as a parent, but when it could kill your child, it's a whole new level. So yes, when people say they can't eat them, PLEASE respect them and take them seriously. If they are just eating it as a fad, then let them, but some of us really, seriously NEED to have our diets a certain way.0 -
Up until a month or two back I'd have said fad. Having suddenly become intolerant to oats and rye bread.... totally valid. Feeling bloated, sick, gassy and unable to eat is not fun!
^ What he said. I've recently started reacting to bread and pasta (or maybe I've been reacting to it for a lot longer than I thought? I was always spending time bloated or gassy or with the runs for no particular reason).
The wheat free and gluten free pasta seems to be okay, but I think I should just ditch the grains period.
One thing I've noticed since I've stopped eating bread: A loaf of bread hangs around for ages, and we seem to save money on buying it. (My husband is the only one who eats it now.) Bread never filled me up either. I'd always end up eating about six slices before feeling satisfied. Then it'd just go away in a couple hours.
Not worth it for the discomfort it causes.0 -
My boyfriend's mom (who is WIDELY known for participating in stupid fad diets and always gaining the weight back) told me last week that she has gone gluten free since January. I asked her why she did that and she said she saw that it on Doc. Oz and thought that it'd be good for her.... She had no idea what gluten even was or what it did in the body.
For people like that, yes, it is a fad. They see "gluten free" on foods and assume that they're automatically healthy without even knowing what gluten is in the first place.0 -
we simply don't need as many grains as most people are consuming (average is about 10 servings a day, when we really only need about 4-5 servings a day).
Actually, we don't NEED ANY servings of grain. There's not a single nutrient in grains that you can't get from another food without all the insulin-spiking, inflamation-causing starch.
Amen. I am glad they are making more GF foods. The fad thing has worked out to our advantage. But what happens when it is over. I guess I better learn how to bake.0 -
An interesting article about gluten, celiac disease and gluten intolerance in Slate Magazine
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2013/02/gluten_free_diet_distinguishing_celiac_disease_wheat_allergy_and_gluten.html0 -
If she was allergic to peanuts would they ask when you were finally going to feed her peanuts??!!!
Actually, yes. You wouldn't believe the ignorance people have of food allergies. Some people have an "intolerance" of something, like dairy, and get an upset stomach and call it an allergy without ever having a medical diagnosis, and I think that's what perpetuates the beliefs out there. My 8 year old daughter has several food allergies that will literally kill her. We have to keep an epi-pen with us at all times, medical bracelets on her, the whole nine yards. She has ended up in the hospital more than once because of other people's mistakes. I get asked over and over again when she will "grow out" of her allergies (meanwhile, she keeps "growing into" more of them). It frustrates me because it gives her false hope. It's hard enough being 8 and going to birthday parties and being unable to eat cakes, cookies, ice cream, cupcakes, etc. Furthermore- and even more dangerous- ADULTS will try to slip her little "treats" containing her allergens. You have no idea how infuriating this is. These people will say that they were only giving her a "little bit". They seem to think that a bite or two is safe, and three or more bites isn't. Or they obviously seem to think I am just a silly, over-paranoid parent who tries to over-shelter my child and am making up this whole "allergy" business. My own mother seems to think I'm on some crazy fad diet and am putting my kids on it too, and she will try to give all my kids these treats. It's annoying enough to be undermined as a parent, but when it could kill your child, it's a whole new level. So yes, when people say they can't eat them, PLEASE respect them and take them seriously. If they are just eating it as a fad, then let them, but some of us really, seriously NEED to have our diets a certain way.
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I could have written this post word for word. Our son is GF (I have celiac, he has all the symptoms at 3 years old) as well as being dairy, nut and soy free. The last time we let his grandparents watch him (my IL's) my husband went to pick him up and he was eating cheddar cheese goldfish crackers. He will not be allowed to go back. They told us that we are wrong, he can eat all the things we say he can't, and that he's fine. The fact that he cried for a week after getting home because his stomach hurt and his entire body was bloated (from the gluten) meant nothing to them. Its now a HUGE fight between us and them, and they are sure we are 100% wrong.0 -
If she was allergic to peanuts would they ask when you were finally going to feed her peanuts??!!!
Actually, yes. You wouldn't believe the ignorance people have of food allergies. Some people have an "intolerance" of something, like dairy, and get an upset stomach and call it an allergy without ever having a medical diagnosis, and I think that's what perpetuates the beliefs out there. My 8 year old daughter has several food allergies that will literally kill her. We have to keep an epi-pen with us at all times, medical bracelets on her, the whole nine yards. She has ended up in the hospital more than once because of other people's mistakes. I get asked over and over again when she will "grow out" of her allergies (meanwhile, she keeps "growing into" more of them). It frustrates me because it gives her false hope. It's hard enough being 8 and going to birthday parties and being unable to eat cakes, cookies, ice cream, cupcakes, etc. Furthermore- and even more dangerous- ADULTS will try to slip her little "treats" containing her allergens. You have no idea how infuriating this is. These people will say that they were only giving her a "little bit". They seem to think that a bite or two is safe, and three or more bites isn't. Or they obviously seem to think I am just a silly, over-paranoid parent who tries to over-shelter my child and am making up this whole "allergy" business. My own mother seems to think I'm on some crazy fad diet and am putting my kids on it too, and she will try to give all my kids these treats. It's annoying enough to be undermined as a parent, but when it could kill your child, it's a whole new level. So yes, when people say they can't eat them, PLEASE respect them and take them seriously. If they are just eating it as a fad, then let them, but some of us really, seriously NEED to have our diets a certain way.
I could have written this post word for word. Our son is GF (I have celiac, he has all the symptoms at 3 years old) as well as being dairy, nut and soy free. The last time we let his grandparents watch him (my IL's) my husband went to pick him up and he was eating cheddar cheese goldfish crackers. He will not be allowed to go back. They told us that we are wrong, he can eat all the things we say he can't, and that he's fine. The fact that he cried for a week after getting home because his stomach hurt and his entire body was bloated (from the gluten) meant nothing to them. Its now a HUGE fight between us and them, and they are sure we are 100% wrong.
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This infuriates me and I don't even children! gah.0 -
Unless you have celiac's disease or other some such allergy, it's a fad.0
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we simply don't need as many grains as most people are consuming (average is about 10 servings a day, when we really only need about 4-5 servings a day).
Actually, we don't NEED ANY servings of grain. There's not a single nutrient in grains that you can't get from another food without all the insulin-spiking, inflamation-causing starch.
Amen. I am glad they are making more GF foods. The fad thing has worked out to our advantage. But what happens when it is over. I guess I better learn how to bake.
Essentially, I agree. Personally, I am just fine on 1-2 servings/day of grain (sometimes none). I guess I should have termed it, "at most we should only have 4-5 servings". But other people may have different dietary needs, so I was trying to be broad.
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If she was allergic to peanuts would they ask when you were finally going to feed her peanuts??!!!
Actually, yes. You wouldn't believe the ignorance people have of food allergies. Some people have an "intolerance" of something, like dairy, and get an upset stomach and call it an allergy without ever having a medical diagnosis, and I think that's what perpetuates the beliefs out there. My 8 year old daughter has several food allergies that will literally kill her. We have to keep an epi-pen with us at all times, medical bracelets on her, the whole nine yards. She has ended up in the hospital more than once because of other people's mistakes. I get asked over and over again when she will "grow out" of her allergies (meanwhile, she keeps "growing into" more of them). It frustrates me because it gives her false hope. It's hard enough being 8 and going to birthday parties and being unable to eat cakes, cookies, ice cream, cupcakes, etc. Furthermore- and even more dangerous- ADULTS will try to slip her little "treats" containing her allergens. You have no idea how infuriating this is. These people will say that they were only giving her a "little bit". They seem to think that a bite or two is safe, and three or more bites isn't. Or they obviously seem to think I am just a silly, over-paranoid parent who tries to over-shelter my child and am making up this whole "allergy" business. My own mother seems to think I'm on some crazy fad diet and am putting my kids on it too, and she will try to give all my kids these treats. It's annoying enough to be undermined as a parent, but when it could kill your child, it's a whole new level. So yes, when people say they can't eat them, PLEASE respect them and take them seriously. If they are just eating it as a fad, then let them, but some of us really, seriously NEED to have our diets a certain way.
I could have written this post word for word. Our son is GF (I have celiac, he has all the symptoms at 3 years old) as well as being dairy, nut and soy free. The last time we let his grandparents watch him (my IL's) my husband went to pick him up and he was eating cheddar cheese goldfish crackers. He will not be allowed to go back. They told us that we are wrong, he can eat all the things we say he can't, and that he's fine. The fact that he cried for a week after getting home because his stomach hurt and his entire body was bloated (from the gluten) meant nothing to them. Its now a HUGE fight between us and them, and they are sure we are 100% wrong.
Omg SERIOUSLY? I don't want to believe that someone could possible be this stupid. If someone ever did this to my theoretical future kids I wouldn't even let them within eyesight of the kid again. They might slip him/her some "treat" when my back is turned and kill him/her.
Hopefully your kid is ok now and nothing like this happens again.0 -
Two years ago there wasn't a single gluten free product in my grocery store, other than what was naturally so. Now, there's a whole aisle dedicated to it. Now I buy canned chicken, yogurt, and bags of rice that proudly claims it's gluten free. I find it impossible to believe that gluten intolerance, something that no one ever heard of even 5 years ago, is suddenly so pronounced. It's a fad. Every gluten free person I know ate bread just fine last year. On the diet they all claimed gluten caused them such tummy troubles. Funny enough, most of them stopped being gluten free eventually and magically no tummy troubles.
I assure you my diarrhea, bloated guts and occasionally vomiting is very very much real.
And you're answer is a little retarded in the way you don't understand gluten. There are many strands of gluten, not just one single strand. Thats why some people can eat white bread like me, but can't eat rye bread or oats.
I have photo's of my belly following eating them... and I also had an ultra sound, endoscopy and colonoscopy because my symptom got so bad, with biopsies taken.0 -
sadly I think a lot of people jump on a 'gluten-free' bandwagon because they wish to believe that it is some outside influence making them fat and not just a general poor diet.
That said, coeliac disease and even gluten-intolerance is very real. No one would actively CHOOSE to be 100% gluten-free. no beer, boring biscuits, limited cake choices etc.
I firmly believe that different people respond to different diets - personally my body feels happier and more energetic on a protein/veg-base diet, others feel better on a grain-based diet.
I also blame a lot of the 'wheat' issues not on wheat itself but on the Chorleywood Process. If I eat shop-bought mass-produced bread, I feel bloated. Sourdough from my local artisan baker? Not at all. The slower fermenting processes help to develop the gluten into a digestible fashion. Whack a load of enzymes in and what you have is yeast that has not been given time to grow properly and gluten that has not been gently stretched. Rather than going 'gluten-free' I would recommend a lot more people try making their own bread or buying artisan breads, preferably with good quality organic flours.0 -
I also blame a lot of the 'wheat' issues not on wheat itself but on the Chorleywood Process. If I eat shop-bought mass-produced bread, I feel bloated. Sourdough from my local artisan baker? Not at all. The slower fermenting processes help to develop the gluten into a digestible fashion. Whack a load of enzymes in and what you have is yeast that has not been given time to grow properly and gluten that has not been gently stretched. Rather than going 'gluten-free' I would recommend a lot more people try making their own bread or buying artisan breads, preferably with good quality organic flours.
Interesting. I'm going to try that out. Thanks.
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Two years ago there wasn't a single gluten free product in my grocery store, other than what was naturally so. Now, there's a whole aisle dedicated to it. Now I buy canned chicken, yogurt, and bags of rice that proudly claims it's gluten free. I find it impossible to believe that gluten intolerance, something that no one ever heard of even 5 years ago, is suddenly so pronounced. It's a fad. Every gluten free person I know ate bread just fine last year. On the diet they all claimed gluten caused them such tummy troubles. Funny enough, most of them stopped being gluten free eventually and magically no tummy troubles.
I assure you my diarrhea, bloated guts and occasionally vomiting is very very much real.
And you're answer is a little retarded in the way you don't understand gluten. There are many strands of gluten, not just one single strand. Thats why some people can eat white bread like me, but can't eat rye bread or oats.
I have photo's of my belly following eating them... and I also had an ultra sound, endoscopy and colonoscopy because my symptom got so bad, with biopsies taken.
This^^ QFT
I lived with vomiting episodes for 10 years. The doctors never checked me for celiac. I figured it out by myself. I would have an episode, clean myself up and head to work. I did not share my horrible experiences with many people. Just because I was eating bread, it did not mean I should have been. The doctor told me I had GERD because he did not know. That was a specialist. My current Doctor gave me an appropriate diagnosis finally.
No one who understands it would choose not to be able to eat donuts or drink beer. I do it because vomiting is not the way I want to spend my morning.0 -
Wheat Belly explains the phenomena regarding the increase in sensitivity. The doctor goes into great detail of his research and how the wheat of today is genetically modified and not good for human consumption.
No, there are no GMO wheats on the market or in use. The author uses the term "genetically modified" to be synonymous with "conventional breeding techniques," which is just one sign that he really does not understand what he is writing about. I've read multiple takedowns of the book from a bunch of viewpoints -- crop breeders, nutritionists, and even paleo food enthusiasts. Every single person with expert knowledge on his topic who reads that book walks away thinking that the guy is an idiot about their topical area -- and if you combine all the different topical areas I've read takedowns of, it becomes clear that the guy is spouting a lot of untruth.
THAT SAID: Celiac disease is a very real and serious thing. For those who have it, a gluten-free diet is an absolute must, and can be a lifesaver.
However, it is certainly not something experienced by the majority of human beings, and for those who don't have it, going gluten free is going to turn out to be a fad. The fad people will all move onto the next big thing (Palm oil! Casein-free diets! Protein-free!) and I hope for the sake of the many people with celiac disease that the big companies don't stop making gluten-free products...
Interesting fact: Sweden dropped their rate of celiac by a very large percentage when they raised their breastfeeding rates and duration. Forget "OOH ITS GMO SEEDS!" Infant feeding practices appear to have a serious impact on rates of celiac disorders.0 -
and I hope for the sake of the many people with celiac disease that the big companies don't stop making gluten-free products...
I hope the opposite. It's still junk food made with questionable ingredients that are not always better than the alternative. You can make a good gluten-free cake with 4 or 5 simple ingredients. No chemicals or weird "alternatives to wheat" needed.0 -
Sure but that's a small minority of apparent sufferers. Still underdiagnosed, mind you.0
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I think it's wonderful that gluten is listed all over the place now; it must make shopping a lot easier for people who are affected by it and, more importantly, for the clueless people who are trying to feed them 0
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If she was allergic to peanuts would they ask when you were finally going to feed her peanuts??!!!
Actually, yes. You wouldn't believe the ignorance people have of food allergies. Some people have an "intolerance" of something, like dairy, and get an upset stomach and call it an allergy without ever having a medical diagnosis, and I think that's what perpetuates the beliefs out there. My 8 year old daughter has several food allergies that will literally kill her. We have to keep an epi-pen with us at all times, medical bracelets on her, the whole nine yards. She has ended up in the hospital more than once because of other people's mistakes. I get asked over and over again when she will "grow out" of her allergies (meanwhile, she keeps "growing into" more of them). It frustrates me because it gives her false hope. It's hard enough being 8 and going to birthday parties and being unable to eat cakes, cookies, ice cream, cupcakes, etc. Furthermore- and even more dangerous- ADULTS will try to slip her little "treats" containing her allergens. You have no idea how infuriating this is. These people will say that they were only giving her a "little bit". They seem to think that a bite or two is safe, and three or more bites isn't. Or they obviously seem to think I am just a silly, over-paranoid parent who tries to over-shelter my child and am making up this whole "allergy" business. My own mother seems to think I'm on some crazy fad diet and am putting my kids on it too, and she will try to give all my kids these treats. It's annoying enough to be undermined as a parent, but when it could kill your child, it's a whole new level. So yes, when people say they can't eat them, PLEASE respect them and take them seriously. If they are just eating it as a fad, then let them, but some of us really, seriously NEED to have our diets a certain way.
I could have written this post word for word. Our son is GF (I have celiac, he has all the symptoms at 3 years old) as well as being dairy, nut and soy free. The last time we let his grandparents watch him (my IL's) my husband went to pick him up and he was eating cheddar cheese goldfish crackers. He will not be allowed to go back. They told us that we are wrong, he can eat all the things we say he can't, and that he's fine. The fact that he cried for a week after getting home because his stomach hurt and his entire body was bloated (from the gluten) meant nothing to them. Its now a HUGE fight between us and them, and they are sure we are 100% wrong.
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Do we have the same IL's? Exact same thing here. I have celiac/Crohn's, 4 year old has all the symptoms of celiac and is being watched for IBD, he's also dairy free. They feed him chicken nuggets, fruit loops etc. pizza (gluten and dairy on that one) then they tell me "I need to start feeding him gluten at home because he doesn't have any issues with it". The fact that he spent the entire week at their house crying, hitting and yelling at everyone doesn't mean a thing apparently. He's a happy kid.... He doesn't act like that if he's feeling well.0 -
Since the thread is back, I just have to add:
1 in 133 is less than one percent of people. Yes, it looks scary, but works itself out to 0.75%. It's the same as 750 people in 100,000. Less scary now, isn't it?
I have a couple of friends who are gluten intolerant, and they both schooled my husband once because he was poking fun at products like shampoo being labeled gluten free (he's not a jerk, but that seemed awfully fad-ish since you don't eat shampoo and neither of us fully understood what being gluten intolerant entailed). I tell this story because I'm positive for this 0.75% of people, life is a tad bit harder.
That said, I think it is becoming a fad diet for people who are looking for a quick fix.0
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