Need Advice AGAIN!!

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  • erin4455
    erin4455 Posts: 135
    If you want to add me, I'd be happy to help or advise or support - sounds like you're struggling so the first step is to listen to the posters on here - there's a lot of valuable information and wisdom to be taken and I'm sure if you're committed to make changes (even ones that scare you like an upped calorie goal) make them and don't look back, I haven't always been patient and willing to commit to a diet that didn't shed pounds instantly but that's why my metabolism fights me now. Slow down, make changes, feed your body and remain patient. Results will come.
  • iamjude17
    iamjude17 Posts: 40
    If you want to add me, I'd be happy to help or advise or support - sounds like you're struggling so the first step is to listen to the posters on here - there's a lot of valuable information and wisdom to be taken and I'm sure if you're committed to make changes (even ones that scare you like an upped calorie goal) make them and don't look back, I haven't always been patient and willing to commit to a diet that didn't shed pounds instantly but that's why my metabolism fights me now. Slow down, make changes, feed your body and remain patient. Results will come.
    I would LOVE the advice and support!!! About what you said regarding getting all my calories in, my husband and I are doing this together. We basically both eat the same, he may eat more, yeah, I'm sure he does, but NOTHING like what we used to do!! Two funny points to mention here. One, is our 10 year Anniversary is coming up, and he called me from work today and told me to check the acct balance because he wanted to do something for me for our anniversary. LOW & BEHOLD...we still have lotsa money in there!! WHY YOU ASK??? No more take out Chinese, Tommy's (the best Philly Steak Sandwich In the world, Pizza, Gepettos cheeseburgers and extra crispy onion rings....No More Expensive take out orders....Two. Since we started out juicing, apparently we have shrunk our stomachs to the point of just not wanting to eat as much!! I told him today what great advice I got from all these wonderful people, and he said (and I quote) "How ya gonna do THAT??? You don't eat that much, we're not really very hungry very often, how are you going to force yourself to EAT more, when mentally you are complete opposite of that??" You know what I said?? (AND YOU'LL ALL BE PROUD OF ME) I said, "You know what? If we trained ourselves to NOT eat, then we can train ourselves to eat correctly!! Yes, it will take some time....may have to work up to it, but IT WILL BE DONE!!!!" ( a crack of thunder right then would have been AWESOME, but nah, no Thunder) SO, I'm getting on a new ride, this roller coaster is BROKEN!!!! Thank you all!!!
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,431 MFP Moderator
    In terms of macro nutrients, I would say this... in terms of importance, it's protein, fat and then carbs. And no single macro will make you fat or gain weight unless their calorie content is in excess of your TDEE. Based on your stats, your TDEE is going to be rather high. While there is no benefit of eating more than 1g of protein per lb of lean body mass, it also wont necessarily hurt if you exceed that. I have about 176 lbs of lbm and I frequecnt eat 150-200 g of protein a day. But this is also why I suggest a macronutrient profile that will ensure proper protein goals are met as well as fats.

    How many calories do you intend to go forward with?


    Now, while the bike is good for exercise as it can provide resistance, I would also suggest starting a resistance training program for your upper body/total body. This will also improve muscle retention and help maintain your metabolism which will inevitably slow down as you lose weight.
  • erin4455
    erin4455 Posts: 135
    Congrats on your upcoming anniversary and it's a bonus to have some added savings because you're living healthier! I hope you guys get to do something fun...since your diet is a joint effort, you both deserve a treat!
  • Belliny
    Belliny Posts: 66
    Now I get why people eat their exercise calories! thanks =) oh and yeah listen to them they know what they are saying!

    And yes, you should eat your exercise calories back - MFP is set up that you are already at a calorie deficit with the daily goal they give you. Meaning you could eat to goal, not do any exercise, and you would still lose weight, because the 1300 calories is less than what you're burning all day long. So when you exercise and burn off more cals, it's creating an even larger deficit, which is where you can run into problems of not consuming enough. You want your NET calories to be at goal.
  • iamjude17
    iamjude17 Posts: 40
    In terms of macro nutrients, I would say this... in terms of importance, it's protein, fat and then carbs. And no single macro will make you fat or gain weight unless their calorie content is in excess of your TDEE. Based on your stats, your TDEE is going to be rather high. While there is no benefit of eating more than 1g of protein per lb of lean body mass, it also wont necessarily hurt if you exceed that. I have about 176 lbs of lbm and I frequecnt eat 150-200 g of protein a day. But this is also why I suggest a macronutrient profile that will ensure proper protein goals are met as well as fats.

    How many calories do you intend to go forward with?


    Now, while the bike is good for exercise as it can provide resistance, I would also suggest starting a resistance training program for your upper body/total body. This will also improve muscle retention and help maintain your metabolism which will inevitably slow down as you lose weight.
    Well, already have started my new thing...check out my food diary for today...and I'm going to work up to 1200-1500....and that low, but because I have a horrible back, right foot and right hip along with no gym member ship....I'm kinda screwed. This lady that runs a bootcamp program told me that unless I can do the bike very AGGRESSIVELY that all I would be doing is depleting calories. She advised to try and get the calories up, at whatever pace I can do, and then, after a period of time when my body recognizes that I'm not going to starve it, then i should start biking at whatever level I can do. Sound about right??
  • iamjude17
    iamjude17 Posts: 40
    Congrats on your upcoming anniversary and it's a bonus to have some added savings because you're living healthier! I hope you guys get to do something fun...since your diet is a joint effort, you both deserve a treat!

    Thank you SO much!! It is SO nice to have him doing this right along with me....and I'm pretty sure I know what were doing, we talked about it sometime ago...I think it involves a bottle of champagne, some candles and a Jacuzzi?? lol Doesn't matter, we have fun whatever we do together!! Even when being devilish sharing a piece of Vegan carrot cake!!! Good luck to you as well!!:flowerforyou:
  • kaylaknight4247
    kaylaknight4247 Posts: 31 Member
    You'll lose weight eating a healthy amount, and fast too. You'll lose weight slower or not at all if you keep up eating so little -- eat more! Exercise moderately. Don't kill yourself -- your body is smarter than you think. If you don't respect it by starving and overworking it, it WILL backfire. I know partially from experience, and from research.

    Anyway, it sounds like youre eating pretty healthy, besides the amount. Going vegan and eating more naturally is a great goal, but just keep in mind you still need to eat ENOUGH. 'no pride in starving yourself.
  • heygirl1000
    heygirl1000 Posts: 35 Member
    Ok how do you calculate BMR - I dont understand and I am stuck so any help would work! Feedback welcomed
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,431 MFP Moderator
    In terms of macro nutrients, I would say this... in terms of importance, it's protein, fat and then carbs. And no single macro will make you fat or gain weight unless their calorie content is in excess of your TDEE. Based on your stats, your TDEE is going to be rather high. While there is no benefit of eating more than 1g of protein per lb of lean body mass, it also wont necessarily hurt if you exceed that. I have about 176 lbs of lbm and I frequecnt eat 150-200 g of protein a day. But this is also why I suggest a macronutrient profile that will ensure proper protein goals are met as well as fats.

    How many calories do you intend to go forward with?


    Now, while the bike is good for exercise as it can provide resistance, I would also suggest starting a resistance training program for your upper body/total body. This will also improve muscle retention and help maintain your metabolism which will inevitably slow down as you lose weight.
    Well, already have started my new thing...check out my food diary for today...and I'm going to work up to 1200-1500....and that low, but because I have a horrible back, right foot and right hip along with no gym member ship....I'm kinda screwed. This lady that runs a bootcamp program told me that unless I can do the bike very AGGRESSIVELY that all I would be doing is depleting calories. She advised to try and get the calories up, at whatever pace I can do, and then, after a period of time when my body recognizes that I'm not going to starve it, then i should start biking at whatever level I can do. Sound about right??

    I would agree that you need to increase your calories. There is no real necessary to eat that little, especially since you have an estimated BMR is around 1800. I would suggest eating around 1600-1700 calories and on days you can exercise, then up it to 1800. In fact, if you can, just start weight training. It's much lower impact and if you do compound lifts you will get an anaebolic effect which means you heart will go pretty high.
  • WinnerVictorious
    WinnerVictorious Posts: 4,733 Member
    Ok, so, LAST QUESTION, PROMISE!!! Can I eat those calories in all raw and vegan foods and with juicing?? That's good, right? I mean, just cuz it says I can eat 1800 calories, it shouldn't be in cakes and pies, right? I know that's GOT to be a stupid question, but I seriously don't know the answer to that.....(yes, I'm that stupid when it comes to eating healthy!!)

    eat anything you want so long as it fits in your daily macros.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/817188-iifym

    i'm serious about that. weight loss doesn't have to be hard. many people associate losing weight with forcing themselves to eat nothing but rabbit food. don't buy into that nonsense. you can lose weight eating pizza and pop tarts and potato chips and grapes and tuna and steak and ice cream and oranges and salads and whatever else you want to eat.

    forget the juicing nonsense unless you are doing it out of convenience. forget the veganism unless you are doing it for ethical reasons. ignore anybody who tells you what you MUST eat and what you MUST NOT eat.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/822501-halp-my-sandwich-isn-t-clean

    set your macros correctly. log your food accurately. make sure it fits your macros. you will lose weight and it will happen much more quickly and enjoyably than you thought it could.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/833026-important-posts-to-read
  • WinnerVictorious
    WinnerVictorious Posts: 4,733 Member
    Ok how do you calculate BMR - I dont understand and I am stuck so any help would work! Feedback welcomed

    your total daily energy requirements are a combination of these things:

    1) the amount of energy you need to live. this includes breathing, digestive functions, heating your body, etc.
    2) the amount of energy you expend doing normal every day activity, such as walking to the mailbox, brushing your teeth, combing your hair, etc.
    3) the amount of energy you expend doing extra exercise, such as jogging, running, playing a pickup game of basketball, playing tennis, etc.

    these activities are described as follows:

    1) BMR. you get this from one of several calculators using details about your body or you can have it medically tested.
    2) this is hard to calculate, so its estimated using the Harris-Benedict equation. basically, you determine your normal activity level (excludes exercise) and that gives you a multiplier to use on your BMR. if you are sedentary, it's 1.2. if you are lightly active, it's 1.375. etc.
    3) these are separate exercise calories.

    TDEE = BMR x Harrs-Benedict multiplier + exercise calories

    if you eat more than your BMR and less than your TDEE, you will lose weight and being in this range will give you the greatest probability of avoiding any sort of unexpected side effects. eating less than BMR will usually cause some side effects. eating more than TDEE will cause you to gain weight.

    0 < BMR < calorie goal < TDEE

    this relationship is what you want for your calorie goal. as you can see, to make sure your calorie goal is correct, you need to know your BMR and TDEE, but as i explained above these are not difficult to determine.

    there are some scenarios where being between BMR and TDEE can still cause side effects, so those "corner cases" need to be handled separately. for example, if you are morbidly obese, you can have a very deep calorie deficit from TDEE while still being above your BMR (and even your BMR x Harris-Benedict multiplier), but end up with muscle loss issues anyway. so every person must look at their situation in closer detail, but what i've described above is the most general case that applies to the largest majority of people and will help increase their odds of avoiding any side effects (fatigue, poor nutrition, metabolic slowdown, etc.)
  • kennethmgreen
    kennethmgreen Posts: 1,759 Member
    Great advice in here. I think it's pretty cool that after two pages of responses, the SM phrase hasn't been used.