Where to go from here? Do I need to eat more?

I hesitate to post my questions since so many posts here address my concerns, yet I want to have some input... So, here goes.

I started my weight loss journey in June 2012 with 40 pounds to lose. I went with MFP's suggested calories but quickly adjusted my macros to 40/30/30. The weight began coming off gradually as I ate with more awareness and moved with intention. I was consistently under my calorie goal.

Within a few months I was down to the suggested 1200 calories and feeling pretty good with my continued success and felt satisfied with my caloric intake. By September however, an MFP friend of mine (who is now in maintenance and has lost over 70#) expressed concern about my being a busy mom with an active life and my eating so few calories.

This led me to do some research on BMR, TDEE, Body fat % and eating at a healthy deficit based on those #'s (In place of a road map). At the time my BMR was just over 1400, TDEE just under 2000. So, I decided to up my calories to 1500 and see what happened. I did not eat back my exercise calories since this was based on my projected activity. (Unless I had an extra active day).

The first two weeks I gained several pounds, but within a short while started dropping about a pound a week again. I felt great!

By early 2013 I had lost 25 pounds and thought I was on a roll... When another MFP buddy challenged me to join her in doing Jillian Michaels' 30 Day Shred DVD, I jumped on it. I had not been very active and was ready for a new challenge to get me out of my winter slump of lower activity.

I began doing 30 DS in late January, 4 days a week (also doing my regular, one day a week "Cardio Dance" class). Within 6 days I was up 3 pounds!!! YIKES! I didn't panic, just kept going... thinking it had to be water weight or some crazy over-reaction my metabolism was having. Couldn't be muscle gain yet, right? I know others have experienced this, so I wasn't too worried.

However, my measurements haven't changed much. At first I was losing inches, but they seem to be back to where I started. I am currently on level 3, day 4... doing only a couple of the modifications to protect my knees. I do feel stronger, tighter, and have greater flexibility. Just wish I was seeing more changes.

February 16 I decided to sync my Fitbit with MFP so I was sure I was eating enough based on my daily calorie burn... instead of just sticking with 1500 calories across the board. I have both MFP and Fitbit set at a 1 pound loss per week, which means 1200 calories, but I am eating my exercise calories which brings my consumption up to 1600 -1700+.

I question whether I'm eating enough? Do I need to do a metabolism reset? Do I just need to give it more time?

With the new quest I'm on to figure out what my body is doing (and what I should do about it) I have seen the benefits of adding more strength training to my routine. I will be purchasing "The New Rules of Lifting for Women" soon and realize that I will need to eat more. But, I don't have the book yet... so we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.

I will open up my diary for your perusal. Please note that yesterday was the first time I was over my calories. The other days that show I was over have to do with completing my food and exercise diary before my Fitbit had synced with MFP and made the adjustment.

I am 5'4" hovering around 150# with a goal of 130-135#. I am on Armour Thyroid to help with an under-active Thyroid. No other meds. My thyroid levels have been normal.

Thanks in advance for your input!:flowerforyou:

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  • anasantos61
    anasantos61 Posts: 86 Member
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  • tonyrocks922
    tonyrocks922 Posts: 172 Member
    With a thyroid condition, I don't think the random assortment of people who reply to threads here will be of help to you. You should probably find a qualified nutritionist who's familiar with your condition.

    That said, first think I would do is make sure you're measuring and weighing everything, and not estimating. If 1200 Calories a day was working for you, maybe go back to it and see how that goes.
  • Thank you. I did see a nutritionist years ago, but it might be time to consult with one again. Thank you for your thoughts!


    Edited to Add: I do measure and weigh everything, when I'm home. I only estimate when I'm "out".
  • TigressPat
    TigressPat Posts: 722
    I'll probably get attacked for this, but I'm pretty close to your height, and age, and I find my body is HAPPY at 150. In all my weight loss attempts (other than when I was 12 and on weight watchers and had no boobs) I have never been able to tip the scale past that point. No matter how much I work out or eat clean.
    I end up getting discouraged and lazy, and pack the weight back on.

    This time around, I'm rethinking my goals.

    Not to suggest that you need to do this, but IMHO 150 is great!
  • I hear you! I do want to have realistic goals... Just not sure what is realistic for me. I thought 135 was healthy and do-able (at the upper end of "normal" for my height). I hope this is just a minor setback I'm having and things will start improving again. I'm trying to be patient with myself and not flip out over it.

    I don't feel "unhealthy" at this weight. Just not satisfied. I hope you have great success in being the healthiest you, you can be. This journey can be quite a bumpy one :)
  • TigressPat
    TigressPat Posts: 722
    I hear you! I do want to have realistic goals... Just not sure what is realistic for me. I thought 135 was healthy and do-able (at the upper end of "normal" for my height). I hope this is just a minor setback I'm having and things will start improving again. I'm trying to be patient with myself and not flip out over it.

    I don't feel "unhealthy" at this weight. Just not satisfied. I hope you have great success in being the healthiest you, you can be. This journey can be quite a bumpy one :)

    alternately, you might want to lift a little and see if it makes you like your body better without necessarily changing your weight.
    otherwise I'd just say keep on keeping on!
    you are doing the right thing! It's easy to get discouraged and do the wrong one!
  • Thank you for your encouragement! I certainly do NOT want to make matters worse!!!!
  • yankeedownsouth
    yankeedownsouth Posts: 717 Member

    With the new quest I'm on to figure out what my body is doing (and what I should do about it) I have seen the benefits of adding more strength training to my routine. I will be purchasing "The New Rules of Lifting for Women" soon and realize that I will need to eat more. But, I don't have the book yet... so we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.

    If you haven't bought NRoL for Women yet, you may want to look at the latest book in the series, which is Supercharged. The author actually recommends this over Women because a number of the programs and activities have been improved. Plus, it works for either gender, so if your hubby wants to join in, he can!
  • Just bought New Rules for Women off Ebay... but will look into the one you mentioned. Thanks!!!
  • Overboard_Eater
    Overboard_Eater Posts: 105 Member
    Hope you get some good suggestions! I know how hard you are trying to stick to a plan :)
  • Thanks for being in my corner, Overboard! Your journey has been very inspiring to me :))
  • Lt_Starbuck
    Lt_Starbuck Posts: 576 Member
    I wonder where the 1200 default number comes from, it's confusing when every nutrition label in America is based on a 2000 calorie diet as standard.

    I stick to standard and keep myself aiming between 1900-2100 cals per day - except when Im chasing the cotton mouse and dont eat cause i have no appetite.
  • Thanks Starbuck, I don't understand it either! Congratulations on getting so close to your goal weight!!! That is an amazing loss!
  • I am wondering... as I analyze the recent changes I have made with syncing my Fitbit and upping the intensity of my workouts, if I am sabotaging myself. I am eating more, but often eating close to bedtime trying to get all of my calories in.

    Makes me think I should try NOT eating so late, if I'm not hungry especially. To see if that makes a difference. Just one of the possible remedies.

    Open to your thoughts and ideas...
  • Lt_Starbuck
    Lt_Starbuck Posts: 576 Member
    Thank you!

    You know what seems to help me more than super controlling my eating at night? I skip breakfast on the mornings that I lift. It's made a difference but only if i dont do it more than once or twice a week! It's easier to start a day off with a purpose, than stick to a purpose at the end of a day :)
  • It's easier to start a day off with a purpose, than stick to a purpose at the end of a day :)

    That is so true! I need to budget my calories more evenly throughout the day... or I just can't stick with the plan as well.
  • Bump :))
  • JessHealthKick
    JessHealthKick Posts: 800 Member
    I have had issues with hypothyroid as well. My bloodwork says it is OK, and I have been off meds for 2 years but I am telling you I know it isn't don't be so confident about it (I did some browsing online, and seems I'm not the only woman that feels this!)

    I am about 145 and 5"7. I want to get very lean and fit, so my goal is about 130lb+ (depends really, not sure how my body will hold the weight and how my muscle gain is going so I'm working on visuals right now rather than weight).

    The biggest changes I have made which have helped me see differences recently (after sticking to 1200 + eating back exercise calories for 6 weeks and seeing little change is)

    1. cutting out gluten. I never feel bloated now! Skin has improved! Everything is better, so maybe give this a shot
    2. making a point to always have my vitamin D and calcium supplements (you would never see me in the sun so I was very deficient)
    3. exercising and eating a lot more - snowboarding this week so working out hard and eating a lot
    4. lots and lots of fluids. I can never get enough water these days!
    5. increasing protein intake - I aim for 100g
    6. Good night's sleep! I am sleeping on a futon at the moment which gives me the best sleep ever :)

    This is a mix of strength training and cardio.

    I have decided to up my calorie intake to 1400 a day + eating back exercise, so let's see how it goes ^^

    Good luck, hope something there triggers something and helps you out!
  • CoraGregoryCPA
    CoraGregoryCPA Posts: 1,087 Member
    Maybe you should see a Registered Dietician. a Registered Dietician and a nutritionist are completely different. Nutritionist do not have as much scrutiny or education as a registered dietician. There is a website. Google it: Finding a Registered Dietician. You should be able to type in your zipcode and real registered dieticians will come up.
  • Thank you Jessica! Someone else mentioned the gluten thing on my home page.You have given me more to chew on! :))

    Cora, that makes complete sense! I saw a Nutritionist over 10 years ago and didn't find it very helpful or informative. Interestingly enough, I weighed 152# at the time. I had been referred by my healthcare provider since I was "overweight". I had always been slim and trim but had suddenly gained 20+ lbs. Her telling me that I was "overweight" was a shock to my identity and was rather traumatic to have to face. I am now at 150# and feel much slimmer than I did 20# ago... But I still want to get this extra fluff off of me!!!

    I will be having my thyroid levels checked next week.... so we can at least rule out any known factor. I feel great, with lots of energy. No heart palpitations, or hair loss (previous signs of it being out of whack).

    Thanks again for your input!
  • simplynaturalfarm
    simplynaturalfarm Posts: 73 Member
    Just a tiny comment - 135lbs is NOT the upper limit for your height, 150 is if you believe those things are useful. You are not obese and I can't for the life of me figure out why a health care person would send you to a nutritionist at 150 for being "obese". . .that is insanity. And there is little research to back up why doctors have placed those upper and lower limits on people to label "obesity" (plus research to show that as thin became in, our weight recommendations went down more - NOT because there was ANY science behind it).
    I have harped before why being fit and trim does not equal a specific weight (especially as we age) and while we have to be where it is best for us (and maybe for you it is 135 while for me it is 145), osteoporosis plagues more slender people than it does people 10-15lbs heavier et. Women want to lose weight to look the same at 50 that they did at 20, they cut back on fat and good cholesterol things their body NEEDS more of as they age so they can be trim and then that makes them more prone to health issues including osteoporosis and mental fogginess - we NEED cholesterol as we age.
    So DON"T say you are obese. Seriously, you are at the upper end of healthy, and if one has to be one way or the other, it is better to have healthy diet and an extra 15-20lbs. I've spoken to many an ER nurse who says the ones who recover from their strokes and heart attacks are always the heavier ones because they have extra reserves to bounce back from ;). NOW, this is not to say you should not lose weight, because I do not want to be at 150lbs at my height either, but just to caution you that weight loss does not = healthier person. And I am not knocking the benefits of being a good weight on your joints and so on, just feel bad that you have been labelled as obese and maybe it is stuck in your beautiful head!
    I'm going to be seriously bombed for my comments, but I disagree tremendously with a lot of nutritionists who have been trained by the people who put the pyramids out there and think that low fat and high carb diet is THE diet for every person on the planet. They replaced their pyramid in 2011 and before they replaced it, their pyramid still included bread cereal rice and pasta as the largest part of the pyramid and in the pictures it shows cereal, spaghetti/pasta, crackers, something that looks like a calzone and then puts fat in WITH sugar as "use sparingly". Even my 7 year old took one look and said , "Why they made this pyramid wrong!" *G*