Physique Trainers vs Strength Trainers

_Cheyanne_
_Cheyanne_ Posts: 97 Member
in Fitness and Exercise
I've been trying to figure out a new weight training schedule. I'm close to finishing New Rules of Lifting for Women, and I'm unsure what to do afterwards. I was looking at Jamie Easton's thing and noticed workouts are a lot of little things for one muscle group. I know most people train different muscle groups for a different day. But... a strength coach (Paul Carter) suggests a lot of the big lifts and then some assistance work. Not a ton of the small movements.

My question is.. what is the difference? Will either change my physique or is strength training one thing and physique training another? Is there some benefit of all the small movements for physique versus doing primarily the big lifts?

And if you want to suggest a training program.. that'd be awesome. I workout at home and it's a pain in the *kitten* getting one together.

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  • Tlove1111
    Tlove1111 Posts: 69 Member
    I started with Jamie Eason's LiveFit, then switched it up to better suit my needs. Some of her circuits require gym equipment, so if your doing it at home like I am, then it's necessary to find a different way to work the same muscles without the use of machines.

    There's some great info on this site: http://www.simplyshredded.com/the-ultimate-female-training-guide.htmlalong
    There's some suggestions for training circuits on there as well :smile:
  • Loftearmen
    Loftearmen Posts: 380
    I've been trying to figure out a new weight training schedule. I'm close to finishing New Rules of Lifting for Women, and I'm unsure what to do afterwards. I was looking at Jamie Easton's thing and noticed workouts are a lot of little things for one muscle group. I know most people train different muscle groups for a different day. But... a strength coach (Paul Carter) suggests a lot of the big lifts and then some assistance work. Not a ton of the small movements.

    My question is.. what is the difference? Will either change my physique or is strength training one thing and physique training another? Is there some benefit of all the small movements for physique versus doing primarily the big lifts?

    And if you want to suggest a training program.. that'd be awesome. I workout at home and it's a pain in the *kitten* getting one together.

    A physique coach will gear your training towards building a better looking body, you will probably still gain some strength, speed, etc.. but not to the same extent as you would if you were training for strength. The opposite is true for training for strength. You can build muscle, get stronger and have a better body with either type of training you just have to decide whether strength or aesthetics is more important to you.
  • BusyRaeNOTBusty
    BusyRaeNOTBusty Posts: 7,166 Member
    Jamie Eason's program isn't great. Most experts agree that there's no need for body part isolation even for "bodybuilders".

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/training-frequency-for-mass-gains.html

    Full body compounds are good for both goals, what will change is the number of reps, and the amount of accessory work you do afterwards. I've read 4-6 reps for strength, 8-10 for size. If you are on a surplus and REALLY trying to build muscle you might consider doing a good amount of accessory lifts after your compound as volume really helps.

    If you consider yourself intermediate, for strength you might look into Wendler 5/3/1, for size look up Lyle McDonald's Generic Bulking Program.

    http://forums.lylemcdonald.com/showthread.php?t=1696
  • a_vettestingray
    a_vettestingray Posts: 654 Member
    In my experience, a full body, old school barbell workout is the best bet. You can hit all the major muscle groups and smaller stabilizers. If you want to cut, eat at a slight deficit and lift. If you want to build, eat at a surplus and lift!

    Busylady knows what she is talking about. 5/3/1 with accessory work is a really good program if you are looking for a good strength and physique program.
  • _Cheyanne_
    _Cheyanne_ Posts: 97 Member
    Ahh ok, I read a few articles on Wendler's program. I'll give that a go, thank you! So for clarification, compound movements work for both goals? I think I'm baffled by the fact powerlifters and such strength competing people are.... bigger? than bodybuilders. So when I think of integrating more big lifts and less little stuff, I think of less physique-focused work. Whereas when I think of the excessive specific muscle group work, I think of bodybuilders and their insanely cut physiques.

    Or do I have this all wrong...... their diets are different? Either way I don't understand why it seems bodybuilders advocate more targeted muscle group work.

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