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Thank you for sharing! I enjoyed reading that! And it doesn't surprise me one bit!

This is fascinating :O I like that almonds might be less calories than we think, and that we use 5 to 30 percent of the energy in food while digesting it. So cool!

Tagging because this is fascinating and want to re read later.

Lol, this ought to be good because one of the contentions is:

It's much easier for the body to extract nutrients from cooked and processed foods than from whole or raw foods. People get more energy per ounce out of cooked hamburger than they would from a raw steak.


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Tagging because this is fascinating and want to re read later.

Lol, this ought to be good because one of the contentions is:

It's much easier for the body to extract nutrients from cooked and processed foods than from whole or raw foods. People get more energy per ounce out of cooked hamburger than they would from a raw steak.


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I thought that was interesting too. Maybe whole and raw foods are less well-digested and "pass through" before all the potential energy is extracted. This also means you can eat more of them for the same cal as processed/cooked. Processing and cooking them does some of the cellular breakdown for us.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2013/03/11/174028830/sleep-less-eat-more-gain-weight

i like this one better. when i am off i can eat more calories and dont gain, cuz i sleep more

but dont we eat less cuz there isnt as much time to eat if you sleep more?! (5 hours sleep makes 19 hours food possible, 9 hours sleep makes 15 hours food possible...) maybe?

My sleep is awful. I often wake in the middle of the night to work when the house is quiet. It effs with my hormones, stress, and for sure slows my weight loss, mostly because either I don't work out when I don't sleep or because my workouts suck. But I don't eat when I'm up. I used to, and that was part of my 20 lb gain. But I don't eat that way anymore.

Who eats raw steak...

Steak Tar Tar? I eat my steak rare (really red).

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Mmmmm bleu steak, or medium rare, depends on the mood

Havent their been quite a few studies done that calorie content on boxes is rarely acurate, because companies can have a 30% margin of it and they can change receipes to a degree without stating if its changed the calorie contents?

I reckon each change they should update their numbers and do tests.

Whats the point of eating 'diet meals' if the package is fibbing and the normal one would of kept you full for longer?

business wins =/

thanks for sharing

The video is interesting but also frightening haha sigh my anxiety is working up again and thinking about all the processed foods I ate lately ): ):

Calorie counting has worked for many people for many years and is working for me right now. If I started worrying about how accurate labels were now and how much I need to chew my food to get all the calories out of it, I'd drive myself insane.

This. We're told the MFP food database is wrong, label calorie counts are wrong, our HRMs are wrong (but not as wrong as the burn counts on gym equipment or in MFP), the kitchen scales that weigh our food are wrong, the bathroom scales that weigh our bodies are wrong...and yet somehow, I'm definitely smaller than I used to me. At least according to my lying eyes.

^^Agree with both!!

Tagging because this is fascinating and want to re read later.

Lol, this ought to be good because one of the contentions is:

It's much easier for the body to extract nutrients from cooked and processed foods than from whole or raw foods. People get more energy per ounce out of cooked hamburger than they would from a raw steak.


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I know. I noticed that.

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Who eats raw steak...

Me. Steak tartare.


As for the rest of the piece. I thought it had already been established that highly processed foods and refined carbs are more easily converted into energy and that you get hungry quicker after them? At least all the low-carb literature I've read in the last 10 years has gone down that path. The same thing on the thermic effect - the 30% upper end of calories spent digesting food is lean protein, the bottom end (3%) is fat/sugar/refined carbs.

I didn't know about almonds though.

I figure it all comes out in the wash...

Not getting all the calories out of X.

Underestimating the calories from fibre in Y.

Not counting the 5-30% calorie reduction used to actually chew and digest food Z.

Just like I'm sure that the slight overestimation of my calorie burn on the treadmill at the gym evens out if you consider all the random fidgeting I do all day at work and don't log.

Common sense..

Every pre-made, prepackaged food is going to be made differently. Every sandwich will have more or less filling depending on who's making it. It's impossible to get an accurate number unless the people making it are also required to weigh and measure each portion of things that they use- which in 'fast food' is highly unlikely. If you eat out you can't expect that the food that you get will be the exact proportion that was used to get the calorie estimates..all you can do is hope it's close and go from there. The things that will be closest in calories will be the mechanically created 'foods' that are portioned by machines (stuff I wouldn't want to eat anyway)

All the more reason to cook at home and weigh EVERYTHING - at least you can be reasonably assured that you are closer than you would be by letting someone else make it for you.

good read! thanks for posting.