What is this "heavy lifting" so many women refer to?

beckty
beckty Posts: 118 Member
I keep seeing ladies here who mention they really started seeing results when they did "heavy lifting" I am a little ignorant on some of this fitness stuff. Still a beginner.

I've lost no lbs really in 4 weeks, but I can see that I am trimming up (need to take measurements today, as I didn't do "before" measurements) so I know I am doing something right. And I also feel much stronger.

I do cardio (3x a week at the gym and Jillian Michaels 30DS 2x a week at home) because I should. I get through it. The resistance training is my favorite part though.

Right now, I am just using the machines available at the gym to the best of my ability, but I am considering getting some personal training.

Any input on this would be great. Thanks!

(oh, my stats. 5'4" - 190 lbs. Looking to lose at least 50lbs and really strengthen and tone for the first time in my life)

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  • JenMc14
    JenMc14 Posts: 2,389 Member
    Get the book New Rukes of Lifting for Wmen. Poke around bodybuilding.com. Start to learn the big compound lifts using free weights and go from there.
  • neurochamp
    neurochamp Posts: 261 Member
    I second New Rules of Lifting for Women (by Lou Schuler, about $12-15 on Amazon). It's a very easy-to-follow program and very adaptable to different types of equipment that you may have available. I've bought a weight bench, dumbbells, and a barbell since I started and I'm pretty happy with the setup. I'm in stage 6, so I'm about to start using my chin-up bar :-)

    ETA: You can definitely do this program in a gym with their equipment if you have access, but I do not and I also tremendously prefer working out at home. So I've invested a little for my own convenience.
  • Flixie00
    Flixie00 Posts: 1,195 Member
    I didn't have a clue starting out in the weights room, so finding the right PT was worth the investment. If you decide to go down the PT route, I suggest you pick one that spends most of their time in the weights room.

    Good luck, lifting is fun and can yield great results.
  • beckty
    beckty Posts: 118 Member
    Thanks all! This is good info. I'll check out bodybuilding.com and possibly see about a trainer. The free weight area of the gym is VERY intimidating to me so I wouldn't feel confident just jumping in
  • zaxaz
    zaxaz Posts: 32 Member
    Well, just for a contrary view, rI think the money I spent on a PT was a waste. We spent a couple hours running (it seemed like) from machine to machine and he gave me so many different exercises that I needed a book to keep track of it all. Not for me.

    I discovered a web site called 'strong lifts 5x5' and that routine is what I've been following. Basically you do 3 exercises every scond day. The web site and iPhone app is free, but of course an upgrade to "premium" membership is available. The downside is that this is targeted for men.

    The book for women sounds like a good investment though.
  • sandradev1
    sandradev1 Posts: 786 Member
    Stronglifts 5 x 5 which is available free to download off the internet and Starting Strength which is a book you can buy are both very good beginner programmes for both men and women.

    There are plenty of videos available online to learn correct form for the lifts and you start with low weight anyway to ensure you get the form right before moving up.

    I workout at home and am successfully doing the SL 5 x 5 routine without having had to pay any PT. I do understand that the gym may be intimidating and would feel the same, but if that was the only choice I had in order to lift, I would just suck it up and just do it.

    Good luck :flowerforyou:
  • babyskunkles
    babyskunkles Posts: 86 Member
    You might want to look at raising your calorie amount. I am 41yrs old, 5'4" and weigh 210. I haven't exercised at all in the last 3 weeks (Not that I'm proud of that :frown: ), but still lose weight on 1600 calories. You are working far too hard to not be losing much weight. Good Luck with whatever you decide!
  • HMVOL7409
    HMVOL7409 Posts: 1,588 Member
    Hoping not to offend anyone but programs like JM and such are not heavy lifting, they are a cardio base. New Rules, Strong Lifts, Starting Strength are programs that are a base for heavy lifting and so beneficial if just starting out.

    I do my own routine as weights were introduced to me a long time ago and heavy is relative to the individual. My heavy is 6-8 reps a set with those last 2 being hard as hell but able to push out with no sacrifice of good form.
  • DaniH826
    DaniH826 Posts: 1,335 Member
    Here you go:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/848374-large-collection-of-info-for-beginners-2013-edition

    (I also pick up heavy things and put them back down again.)
  • beckty
    beckty Posts: 118 Member
    Here you go:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/848374-large-collection-of-info-for-beginners-2013-edition

    (I also pick up heavy things and put them back down again.)

    Thanks for the link up! And my daughter weighs 51 lbs and I pick her up frequently. She feels heavy to me. :)
  • beckty
    beckty Posts: 118 Member
    You might want to look at raising your calorie amount. I am 41yrs old, 5'4" and weigh 210. I haven't exercised at all in the last 3 weeks (Not that I'm proud of that :frown: ), but still lose weight on 1600 calories. You are working far too hard to not be losing much weight. Good Luck with whatever you decide!

    This idea of raising my calories makes me nervous. But if I don't have some success this week, that will be my next move. I think 1640 is my 80% of TDEE and so that would make sense. I just can't imagine losing and eating that much. But there are so many people with success here as a result of upping calories that I know it's not nonsense
  • beckty
    beckty Posts: 118 Member
    Hoping not to offend anyone but programs like JM and such are not heavy lifting, they are a cardio base. New Rules, Strong Lifts, Starting Strength are programs that are a base for heavy lifting and so beneficial if just starting out.

    I do my own routine as weights were introduced to me a long time ago and heavy is relative to the individual. My heavy is 6-8 reps a set with those last 2 being hard as hell but able to push out with no sacrifice of good form.

    By JM, do you mean Jillian Michaels? If so, I definitely know that's not lifting. It's great cardio and toning work for me so far, but I might be looking for something different. Thanks for your input! I want to check out some of the links on the heavier weights at low reps and what that does for women. You get so much "but I'll bulk up like a man!" paranoia and it's hard to sort out the truth from fiction.
  • crisanderson27
    crisanderson27 Posts: 5,343 Member
    Hoping not to offend anyone but programs like JM and such are not heavy lifting, they are a cardio base. New Rules, Strong Lifts, Starting Strength are programs that are a base for heavy lifting and so beneficial if just starting out.

    I do my own routine as weights were introduced to me a long time ago and heavy is relative to the individual. My heavy is 6-8 reps a set with those last 2 being hard as hell but able to push out with no sacrifice of good form.

    By JM, do you mean Jillian Michaels? If so, I definitely know that's not lifting. It's great cardio and toning work for me so far, but I might be looking for something different. Thanks for your input! I want to check out some of the links on the heavier weights at low reps and what that does for women. You get so much "but I'll bulk up like a man!" paranoia and it's hard to sort out the truth from fiction.

    Heavy lifting (i.e. lifting enough where you can only complete 5-8 reps) is actually far better for what most people think of as 'toning' than any form of cardio. Heavy lifting with moderate cardio thrown in for heart and lung health...well, that's where it's at :).

    And I promise, you won't 'bulk'...unless you have testosterone like a man, and are eating over your calorie limit.
  • HMVOL7409
    HMVOL7409 Posts: 1,588 Member
    Hoping not to offend anyone but programs like JM and such are not heavy lifting, they are a cardio base. New Rules, Strong Lifts, Starting Strength are programs that are a base for heavy lifting and so beneficial if just starting out.

    I do my own routine as weights were introduced to me a long time ago and heavy is relative to the individual. My heavy is 6-8 reps a set with those last 2 being hard as hell but able to push out with no sacrifice of good form.

    By JM, do you mean Jillian Michaels? If so, I definitely know that's not lifting. It's great cardio and toning work for me so far, but I might be looking for something different. Thanks for your input! I want to check out some of the links on the heavier weights at low reps and what that does for women. You get so much "but I'll bulk up like a man!" paranoia and it's hard to sort out the truth from fiction.

    Yep, that's what I meant. So many do think that it's lifting so it was more of a clarification. :)

    Definitely look into it bc it's do beneficial and you won't bulk up I promise.
  • iorahkwano
    iorahkwano Posts: 709 Member
    Stronglifts 5x5. 5 basic lifts, 5 sets of 5 reps. A good beginner program, I sm doing it. I started eating more to make muscle and then 12lbs in, I decided I made enough muscle & that I would now lower my calories a bit as I lift so I can lise fat but maintain my muscle. I noticed weight lifting has made me very strong without looking bulky (Which is what a lot of newbies fear). It's also changed my body composition for the better part. Even though I was not losing weight, my waist got smaller and my bust/butt got bigger (More toned, not fatter). It's helped me to look more "hourglassy."

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/560459-stronglifts-5x5-summary
  • beckty
    beckty Posts: 118 Member
    Thanks for the excellent summary link up! I like the sounds of that work out.
  • NerdyJenn
    NerdyJenn Posts: 20 Member
    Another vote for New Rule of Lifting for Women. I started in January and look foreward to getting into the free weights section of the gym 3x per week. I took a friend last week and showed her how to do squats, and as we put the weights on for my set she ohhh'd and said "I can SEE how this could get addictive!" Then she clapped her hands, danced around, and squeaked "put on MORE!!"

    So, moral of that story is get a friend and have fun with it all ;)

    I was able to take New Rules out of the local library to test it before buying.

    And to put it into perspective - I started with squat and deadlift weights of 75lbs to get form. Now I'm rather pleased with those going up to 125lbs and 135lbs. So that is why we talk about "lifting heavy".
  • NerdyJenn
    NerdyJenn Posts: 20 Member

    (oh, my stats. 5'4" - 190 lbs. Looking to lose at least 50lbs and really strengthen and tone for the first time in my life)

    We've got very similar stats. Originally I started out after the birth of my son at 191, and got down to the mid 170s. This time around (a few years later) I'm aiming for my next push down into the 150s, I hope.
  • Stronglifts 5x5. 5 basic lifts, 5 sets of 5 reps. A good beginner program, I sm doing it. I started eating more to make muscle and then 12lbs in, I decided I made enough muscle & that I would now lower my calories a bit as I lift so I can lise fat but maintain my muscle. I noticed weight lifting has made me very strong without looking bulky (Which is what a lot of newbies fear). It's also changed my body composition for the better part. Even though I was not losing weight, my waist got smaller and my bust/butt got bigger (More toned, not fatter). It's helped me to look more "hourglassy."

    I'm a man but I started with StrongLifts just over one year ago. I had very good results and got strong pretty fast. One thing to reiterate from the quote above is that strength training does not equal body building. One builds raw strength while the other builds muscle mass. You will go up in body weight on the scale but won't necessary look like you did so physically by appearance. You'll get strong and shape-up much more and probably even lean-out a bit. I enjoyed the program, but I dropped the 5 sets of 5 reps to 3 sets of 5 reps and that seemed to work out better for me.

    One tip - if you aren't familiar with doing squats i'd recommend hiring a trainer who is familiar with powerlifting and doing heavy squats. I tried to learn them from watching videos and reading and when I reached somewhere around 200lbs I hurt my lower-back (thankfully not seriously). My form was incorrect and it really came out when I went heavy. I started over three times to fix form issues but once I got it man I sailed up in strength. I get together with a trainer once every month for a form check and overall strength fitness. Also, stretch the hip-flexors and make sure your mid-section is flexible, it will really help your squats.

    That's been my experience, good luck.
  • adopt321
    adopt321 Posts: 111
    I'm 5'6 and 130lbs and I squat 3x12 195 lbs. To me this is heavy lifting (though I know I can go heavier). Heavy lifting builds muscle, increases stamina and does more than toning. With the right diet you'll have visible muscle definition. It usually means doing 8-12 reps per set lifting at 70-80% of your max (i.e., max weight you can lift, press, push, etc.). I'd definitely hire a personal trainer and consider someone that has competed in a show. Ask what their PT experience is? Is they have referrals? etc. This is all IMO as I'm not a PT; I just enjoy lifting heavy and the benefits it brings me.