Kettlebells over barbell? Really?

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  • contingencyplan
    contingencyplan Posts: 3,639 Member
    kettlebell workouts are INCREDIBLE. it improves hip drive, grip strength, tones all muscles in your body and improves cardiovascular endurance *all in one workout!* throw in some exercises tabata-style and you'll have a killer workout. i do KB/tabata workouts every saturday for 1hr and i'm WIPED after every workout.

    How do you make a 4min workout last 1hr?

    all of the KB classes i've done aren't pure KB but mixed in with Tabata moves. KB lifts and swings are about half of that but then we alternate lifts/swings with things like burpees, plyo training, bear crawls, ab work, ab work with KBs etc.

    No offense but tabata isn't a type of move. It is a timing sequence, and a tabata workout by definition can only be 4 minutes long. Regardless of the exercises used, if a workout does not follow the specific timing sequence of 20 seconds work > 10 seconds rest 8 times in a row, it's not a tabata workout and shares nothing in common with one.
  • kettlebell workouts are INCREDIBLE. it improves hip drive, grip strength, tones all muscles in your body and improves cardiovascular endurance *all in one workout!* throw in some exercises tabata-style and you'll have a killer workout. i do KB/tabata workouts every saturday for 1hr and i'm WIPED after every workout.

    How do you make a 4min workout last 1hr?

    You could do it 15 times.
  • Also, I want to agree with someone who said earlier in the thread that this doesn't have to be an either/or approach with regards to KB or Barbells (or dumb bells). Why not incorporate them all into your routine? Along with some bodyweight type exercises as well.

    All approaches have benefits that can be leveraged. Just align the benefits of each with whatever your particular fitness goals are and follow a program that includes exercises that are most beneficial to your goals.

    I know it sounds like I'm over-simplifying everything. That's because I am. But really, that's about all there is to it.
  • AprilEC
    AprilEC Posts: 32 Member
    I have been in a kettlebell class for about a year now and I love it. The kettlebell training gives you more of a workout than a barbell (personal opinion). Its a mix of strength training, circuit training and cardio. You might not see a lot of people using them in the gym for a couple reasons (off the top of my head), 1.) it could be a lack of knowledge. People may just not know how to use them or what they're purpose is. 2.) you need a good amount of space to really utilize a kettlebell. So if they do know how to use them, they may not have enough room to really work with them. You would need to take them in a corner away from people (just in case you lose grip!) or in a closed workout room. But again, I LOVE LOVE LOVE kettlebell!
  • CoachDreesTraining
    CoachDreesTraining Posts: 223 Member
    Personally, kettlebells are easier for me to teach. They can also be safer.

    One good example is with the deadlift. With a kettlebell, you can straddle the weight, bringing it closer to your center of gravity, which takes some of the load off your back. It also teaches you to reach back with your hips opposed to rounding your back.

    A lot of people that learn to deadlift with a barbell let the weight get too far away from their body, get themselves hurt, and decide to go do leg curls instead.

    Tell your trainer that you're OK learning the movements with kettlebells, but once you get the hang of it you'd like to switch to barbells, to gain strength.
  • Godan2b
    Godan2b Posts: 57 Member
    Kettlebells take up MUCH less space, you can take them with you even on a car trip, just throw one in the floor board of the back seat and there your go. Or you can take them to the local park. Check out Lisa Shaffers' site http://www.nofearfitness.com/index.php I was lucky enough to train with her first using kettlebells and Mike Mahler starting back 7 years ago.
  • postrockandcats
    postrockandcats Posts: 1,145 Member
    They both have their positives and negatives. I do both, but with an emphasis on barbells and free weights.

    My thing? If I went to a trainer for the purpose of learning how to workout with a barbell and the trainer told me not to bother without a good reason, I'd get another trainer stat. If you hired an installer to lay carpet and they came with tile and refused to lay the carpet, you'd kick them out, right? Or you went to Zumba and they changed it to a Spinning class because it was "better" you'd be mad, right? This is YOUR fitness and YOU hired THEM. Unless they had a legit health concern about you doing barbell work, then that's what you should be doing if that's what you want.

    You could be passive aggressive and say you didn't realize they didn't know they didn't know about barbell training and could they give a name of someone that can? :P
  • twelfty
    twelfty Posts: 576 Member
    in short they're supposed to be better because the kettlebell weight isn't centralised to your wrist so you're using more stablizing muscles when using them, also because of this they're supposed to be very good for toning

    where a dumbell or barbell requires less stabilizing because it is central to your wrist

    also @godan2b sorry... but how on earth do kettlebells take up less space? to get the versatility of dumbells in kettlebells you'd need a trunk full of them lol

    kettlebells aren't my thing but i do see why they're popular, and probably do work the way people are saying but i wan't conventional looking muscles and i don't trust these give that effect given how you see some people who are toned up these days looking... weird
  • jimmmer
    jimmmer Posts: 3,515 Member
    in short they're supposed to be better because the kettlebell weight isn't centralised to your wrist so you're using more stablizing muscles when using them, also because of this they're supposed to be very good for toning

    where a dumbell or barbell requires less stabilizing because it is central to your wrist

    also @godan2b sorry... but how on earth do kettlebells take up less space? to get the versatility of dumbells in kettlebells you'd need a trunk full of them lol

    kettlebells aren't my thing but i do see why they're popular, and probably do work the way people are saying but i wan't conventional looking muscles and i don't trust these give that effect given how you see some people who are toned up these days looking... weird

    Lol! What a load of nonsense!

    Get under a heavy barbell and do some squats and tell me your stabilisers are not under stress. Or OHP. Or (insert-name-of-heavy-barbell-compound-move-here)

    That last paragraph may need some unpacking, because I couldn't really understand it. I did recognise the word "toned" though and I thought "Uh oh......"
  • Bardane
    Bardane Posts: 60 Member
    I have been learning basic compound barbell lifting for the last couple of months. My trainer introduced some kettlebell exercises for me to do as a cardio exercise and a way to improve my hip drive. I do a 3 times a week lifting programme and throw in a couple of tabata kettle bell workouts. I find them a fun addition to my schedule, and one I can do at home easily
  • Godan2b
    Godan2b Posts: 57 Member
    in short they're supposed to be better because the kettlebell weight isn't centralised to your wrist so you're using more stablizing muscles when using them, also because of this they're supposed to be very good for toning

    where a dumbell or barbell requires less stabilizing because it is central to your wrist

    also @godan2b sorry... but how on earth do kettlebells take up less space? to get the versatility of dumbells in kettlebells you'd need a trunk full of them lol

    kettlebells aren't my thing but i do see why they're popular, and probably do work the way people are saying but i wan't conventional looking muscles and i don't trust these give that effect given how you see some people who are toned up these days looking... weird

    Lol! What a load of nonsense!

    Get under a heavy barbell and do some squats and tell me your stabilisers are not under stress. Or OHP. Or (insert-name-of-heavy-barbell-compound-move-here)

    That last paragraph may need some unpacking, because I couldn't really understand it. I did recognise the word "toned" though and I thought "Uh oh......"
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