Craving lots of carbs...
aippolito1
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So, I've been trying not to eat too many carbs...for the last couple months (plateau the first month, but lost inches the 2nd, no lbs. either month), I've been well under my carb limit for the day. Lately, I've been really craving carbs. I typically have been eating a big carb at both lunch and dinner... whole wheat pasta or white rice (I can't stand brown). I'm staying within my carb limit by just a little or going over a little. Does anyone have an explanation for this and do you think this will be okay? I'm set at 50% because dietician.com said for my shape, age, sex, height, weight, activity level, etc. that I should be at 50/30/20 so I am. Am I craving carbs because I wasn't getting enough? Or could it be because I started running intervals again and my body needs the carbs for my "runs"? I'm not running more than about 10 minutes total in usually a 20-30 minute time frame so that seems a little off, but it's my only guess.
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intervals and carbs go together nicely, BUT carbs should be eaten BEFORE long bouts of cardio (even intervals), not after, they do nothing for you after (with regards to exercise that is), so my recommendation is to eat a good healthy carb portion about 2 hours before you work out, then after, a very small carb/protein combination (I mean immediately after, within 1/2 an hour of finishing your workout), this can have a limited amount of simple carbs in it (maybe 5 to 10 grams) to feed the immediate need for energy replenishment, but don't overdo it.
As to why you're craving carbs in general, can't really tell you that. It's very much a personal thing and something you need to dig into yourself to figure out.0 -
Carb cravings could be yeast overgrowth, sugar addiction, signs of Insulin Resistance or your body needing a particular nutrient.
I find that for me, it depends on the type of cravings I have on what my body is telling me..........0 -
intervals and carbs go together nicely, BUT carbs should be eaten BEFORE long bouts of cardio (even intervals), not after, they do nothing for you after (with regards to exercise that is), so my recommendation is to eat a good healthy carb portion about 2 hours before you work out, then after, a very small carb/protein combination (I mean immediately after, within 1/2 an hour of finishing your workout), this can have a limited amount of simple carbs in it (maybe 5 to 10 grams) to feed the immediate need for energy replenishment, but don't overdo it.
As to why you're craving carbs in general, can't really tell you that. It's very much a personal thing and something you need to dig into yourself to figure out.
post-workout carbs ARE essential for recover!!!!
arielle... i used to eat carbs as a main-dish part of every meal!!!!
not i east soo many vegetables.
like i seriously either have a huge salad or a lot of roasted veggies... i add a protein.. and a 'SIDE' of carbs.
try and surround ur meals around more veggies and less carbs and ull be sooo full.
thing about carbs is (IMO) the more i have, the faster i get hungry and want MORE carbs!
but carbs are very important so dont cut them out.
some dinners i dont eat ANY carbs... then i get that carb craving.. which is easily cured by some air popped popcorn! =]
try changing things up a bit!
gooood luck =]0 -
Tom Venuto (loving sigh after I say his name!!) did this article on carbs
http://www.burnthefat.com/BIG_FAT_LIES_8_the_low_carb_lie.html
It might be helpful to you, or it might not. Might be worth the read though. Here is a peice of it:
"If you remove most of your carbohydrates from your diet for a long period of time, you're setting yourself up for a relapse. You tend to crave what you cannot have, both physiologically and psychologically. The more you cut the carbs, the easier it is to rebound will be when you put carbs back in."
I don't think 50/30/20 is unreasonable. That ratio sounds like a good one to me. I am doing 40/40/20. Yours doesn't seem like an extreme carb reduction so your craving might be something different all together.
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Tom Venuto (loving sigh after I say his name!!) did this article on carbs
http://www.burnthefat.com/BIG_FAT_LIES_8_the_low_carb_lie.html
It might be helpful to you, or it might not. Might be worth the read though. Here is a peice of it:
"If you remove most of your carbohydrates from your diet for a long period of time, you're setting yourself up for a relapse. You tend to crave what you cannot have, both physiologically and psychologically. The more you cut the carbs, the easier it is to rebound will be when you put carbs back in."
I don't think 50/30/20 is unreasonable. That ratio sounds like a good one to me. I am doing 40/40/20. Yours doesn't seem like an extreme carb reduction so your craving might be something different all together.
Good luck.
That's what I was thinking! Thanks. :happy: As for everyone else, I know the whole...carbs before intervals thing. I usually eat half a banana which is 13 carbs. Is that enough or should I eat more? Then I usually eat cereal and the rest of the banana or another fruit afterwards, sometimes with an egg (when I have time to make one or can remember to bring one with me - lol!)0 -
Tom Venuto (loving sigh after I say his name!!) did this article on carbs
http://www.burnthefat.com/BIG_FAT_LIES_8_the_low_carb_lie.html
It might be helpful to you, or it might not. Might be worth the read though. Here is a peice of it:
"If you remove most of your carbohydrates from your diet for a long period of time, you're setting yourself up for a relapse. You tend to crave what you cannot have, both physiologically and psychologically. The more you cut the carbs, the easier it is to rebound will be when you put carbs back in."
I don't think 50/30/20 is unreasonable. That ratio sounds like a good one to me. I am doing 40/40/20. Yours doesn't seem like an extreme carb reduction so your craving might be something different all together.
Good luck.
I disagree with that article 100000%. it is possible to break carb addiction forever.
And if you are eating loads of veggies, some fruit, nuts, dairy and occasional starch and occasional grains you are getting plenty of carbs.............
I am going through some metabolic issues at this time and most of the "carb" cravings are due to some type of Metabolic disorder, not just because someone can't have something.
I know plenty of people that have been maintaining a low carb lifestyle for years and years, are marathon runners and eat a very controlled carb eating plan and a very stringent work out schedule.0 -
Please don't hijack my thread with your views of the low carb lifestyle. I lose weight fine eating plenty of carbs and I will continue that way.0
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That's what I was thinking! Thanks. :happy: As for everyone else, I know the whole...carbs before intervals thing. I usually eat half a banana which is 13 carbs. Is that enough or should I eat more? Then I usually eat cereal and the rest of the banana or another fruit afterwards, sometimes with an egg (when I have time to make one or can remember to bring one with me - lol!)
it's not what I would eat before an aerobic workout. I would attempt to get some more complex carbs in before. Banana's have both sucrose and fructose in them (a monosaccharide and a disaccharide respectively) both of which break down pretty fast in the body, negating much of the benefits of eating a carbohydrate before cardio. I would go with something that has more staying power like a whole grain such as steel cut oats about 1.5 to 2 hours before. After is a better time for a banana, but only the 1/2 as you said, and I don't think you need the cereal too, that's a lot of carbs, a 1/2 a banana has about 8 g of carbs, thats probably all you'll need (but adjust to how you feel, it's different for everyone). If your intervals were max (I.E. HIIT training) it wouldn't hurt to add a few grams of protein in after as well, maybe a hand full of nuts or a couple oz of chicken breast or the like (even a protein drink would be ok, but watch the sugar, some of those things are brutal with sugar).0 -
Arielle,
I agree, 50/30/20 sounds fine. It could be the physical link as has been discussed but it could also just be in your mind because you know you are trying to cut them down.
Maybe another possibility is that you are underestimating your exercise cals (since interval training can be more efficient at burning cals) and so your calorie count and percentages are a bit off?
Just a couple of thoughts. I hope your plateau is over soon!0 -
Please don't hijack my thread with your views of the low carb lifestyle. I lose weight fine eating plenty of carbs and I will continue that way.
Please do not berate me as I was not hijacking the thread, but merely giving my point of view on the article posted, which I have just as much right to do here as you or anyone else.
that is what makes this Forum work, everyone giving their input.
If you don't want everyone's opinion and only want to "hear what you want to hear" then I don't understand why you would post on a Public and Open forum.0 -
Please don't hijack my thread with your views of the low carb lifestyle. I lose weight fine eating plenty of carbs and I will continue that way.
Last time I checked this was a free and public web site not yours. We all have veiws and have a right to share them. Lioness was just giving another point of veiw. So it was different than yours thats life not everyone will agree with you, but I do think you were are out of line by telling someone not to post because you don't agree.0 -
Hey Arielle,
Are you taking in a lot of "sugar-free" things that are sweetened with artificial sweeteners? Just curious, I've found that when I indulge in those things I tend to crave sweets more. I've been on a popcorn kick lately and that's not good either, but I gave up chocolate 2 weeks ago, so I guess popcorn is better for me than the candy bars. LOL0 -
Please don't hijack my thread with your views of the low carb lifestyle. I lose weight fine eating plenty of carbs and I will continue that way.
Please do not berate me as I was not hijacking the thread, but merely giving my point of view on the article posted, which I have just as much right to do here as you or anyone else.
that is what makes this Forum work, everyone giving their input.
If you don't want everyone's opinion and only want to "hear what you want to hear" then I don't understand why you would post on a Public and Open forum.
I really don't think Arielle was berating you....thats a bit of a stretch....she merely asked you not to hijack the post....which is what you tend to do on any post that has to do with carbs. It's like you have some built in "carb topic radar" which you respond to in a negative way .
Perhaps your input would be better received on posts if you weren't constantly trying to shove low carbs down everyones throat. We get it....you believe in it....it works for you....thats great! If other people don't believe in it.....just let it be....instead of constantly challenging anyone who doesn't share your same point of view around carbs. I have noticed, as have many others on MFP that you are very confrontational on several posts.
But hey, I'm just giving my input and point of view and I guess I have just as much right to do so as anyone else...right? After all it is a public and open forum.0 -
Please don't hijack my thread with your views of the low carb lifestyle. I lose weight fine eating plenty of carbs and I will continue that way.
Please do not berate me as I was not hijacking the thread, but merely giving my point of view on the article posted, which I have just as much right to do here as you or anyone else.
that is what makes this Forum work, everyone giving their input.
If you don't want everyone's opinion and only want to "hear what you want to hear" then I don't understand why you would post on a Public and Open forum.
I really don't think Arielle was berating you....thats a bit of a stretch....she merely asked you not to hijack the post....which is what you tend to do on any post that has to do with carbs. It's like you have some built in "carb topic radar" which you respond to in a negative way .
Perhaps your input would be better received on posts if you weren't constantly trying to shove low carbs down everyones throat. We get it....you believe in it....it works for you....thats great! If other people don't believe in it.....just let it be....instead of constantly challenging anyone who doesn't share your same point of view around carbs. I have noticed, as have many others on MFP that you are very confrontational on several posts.
But hey, I'm just giving my input and point of view and I guess I have just as much right to do so as anyone else...right? After all it is a public and open forum.
If you even read my post, I didn't push my beliefs on her or anyone else and I made a public apology in which I have not been confrontational with anyone.
In fact, people are being confrontational with me. I have humbled myself and I don't expect or will not let anyone attack me.0 -
Please don't hijack my thread with your views of the low carb lifestyle. I lose weight fine eating plenty of carbs and I will continue that way.
Please do not berate me as I was not hijacking the thread, but merely giving my point of view on the article posted, which I have just as much right to do here as you or anyone else.
that is what makes this Forum work, everyone giving their input.
If you don't want everyone's opinion and only want to "hear what you want to hear" then I don't understand why you would post on a Public and Open forum.
I really don't think Arielle was berating you....thats a bit of a stretch....she merely asked you not to hijack the post....which is what you tend to do on any post that has to do with carbs. It's like you have some built in "carb topic radar" which you respond to in a negative way .
Perhaps your input would be better received on posts if you weren't constantly trying to shove low carbs down everyones throat. We get it....you believe in it....it works for you....thats great! If other people don't believe in it.....just let it be....instead of constantly challenging anyone who doesn't share your same point of view around carbs. I have noticed, as have many others on MFP that you are very confrontational on several posts.
But hey, I'm just giving my input and point of view and I guess I have just as much right to do so as anyone else...right? After all it is a public and open forum.
If you even read my post, I didn't push my beliefs on her or anyone else and I made a public apology in which I have not been confrontational with anyone.
In fact, people are being confrontational with me. I have humbled myself and I don't expect or will not let anyone attack me.
I think people are just aggravated because you keep repeating yourself, saying the same things about carbs and most people on here obviously love and eat a good bit of them and don't want to stop & choose a low-carb lifestyle. That's all. If i'm wrong, then I'm wrong. Maybe just reply to posts that ask for low-carb opinions? Please don't take this the wrong way. I'm not being rude at all. Yes, this is a public forum and no one can stop you, but it's just a suggestion! =] I think it would stop all of the fighting going on.0 -
If you even read my post, I didn't push my beliefs on her or anyone else and I made a public apology in which I have not been confrontational with anyone.
In fact, people are being confrontational with me. I have humbled myself and I don't expect or will not let anyone attack me.
I think, without taking sides here, a lot of the frustration on arielle's part is that she didn't post about the article, and as such she really wasn't looking for commentary on said article (apart from how it might affect her original post), thus continuing on that line of discussion would be recognized as many as hijacking a thread.
it's inevitable that tangents happen in a forum such as this one, and I'm not going to say I don't do it (I do sometimes), and maybe arielle was a little harsh sounding in her request to stay on topic (that's partly due to the nature of posting, it's difficult to hear inflection and tonality in a written post), but it wasn't an unreasonable request otherwise.
Hopefully we can all be mindful of the fact that even though the forum is public, the posts are very personal and respect needs to be given as well as taken by both sides. Not saying I'm perfect in that regard, but I do my best.
What I think adds NOTHING to the equation is others posting replies defending one side or the other, all that does is escalate things, it almost never resolves the issue and inevitably will result in feeling being hurt. I would hope that we can all decide to use good judgement and if hard discussions need to continue, they continue via PM or some other non-public forum in order to keep the nastiness off public forums.
All just my humble opinion
As to the original question arielle, another thought I had was that for some, a complete removal of carbs for two or three days, and then the slow reintroduction of carbs over the course of a couple of weeks can either alleviate these symptoms and/or identify the carb type that could be setting off the cravings. Just a thought. Careful with this though, hydration levels should be closely monitored when you are very low carb, as should micro nutrient levels (perhaps adding some supplements during this time would be good)0 -
Me and my husband's solution to carb cravings in simple... EAT THEM (sort of).
There is a line of pasta that you can find in most local grocery stores called Dreamfields that only contains 5g of carbs per serving. It's a little expensive at around $2 a box but it's worth it. They use some kind of special technology that makes it so your body can't digest the carbs. It goes great with Ragu pasta sauce (I use the chunky kind because it's got a serving of vegetable per 1/2 cup) and a little bit of grated cheese.
Give it a try!
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My carb cravings are routed in gluten intolerance. I want bread, pasta, etc, but they bloat me up and make me retain water and definitely prevent weight loss. Jut make sure your cravings aren't that. I have addressed mine by eating potatoes, rice, and other gluten free solutions, but would still love to have some pasta. If the carb cravings don't result in bingeing, they are fine, but if you feel the cravings are out of control or weight loss is impeded try cutting out the gluten-containing carbs.
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I very much agree, it's still relevant to the topic and can be useful to others reading.Please don't hijack my thread with your views of the low carb lifestyle. I lose weight fine eating plenty of carbs and I will continue that way.
Last time I checked this was a free and public web site not yours. We all have veiws and have a right to share them. Lioness was just giving another point of veiw. So it was different than yours thats life not everyone will agree with you, but I do think you were are out of line by telling someone not to post because you don't agree.0 -
Thanks for this info, very much appreciated to have it broken down this way Banks!:flowerforyou:
That's what I was thinking! Thanks. :happy: As for everyone else, I know the whole...carbs before intervals thing. I usually eat half a banana which is 13 carbs. Is that enough or should I eat more? Then I usually eat cereal and the rest of the banana or another fruit afterwards, sometimes with an egg (when I have time to make one or can remember to bring one with me - lol!)
it's not what I would eat before an aerobic workout. I would attempt to get some more complex carbs in before. Banana's have both sucrose and fructose in them (a monosaccharide and a disaccharide respectively) both of which break down pretty fast in the body, negating much of the benefits of eating a carbohydrate before cardio. I would go with something that has more staying power like a whole grain such as steel cut oats about 1.5 to 2 hours before. After is a better time for a banana, but only the 1/2 as you said, and I don't think you need the cereal too, that's a lot of carbs, a 1/2 a banana has about 8 g of carbs, thats probably all you'll need (but adjust to how you feel, it's different for everyone). If your intervals were max (I.E. HIIT training) it wouldn't hurt to add a few grams of protein in after as well, maybe a hand full of nuts or a couple oz of chicken breast or the like (even a protein drink would be ok, but watch the sugar, some of those things are brutal with sugar).0 -
50% is about right for runners. I think it would be fine if you were to find something to replace that white rice with.0
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SHBoss - can you give some specific suggestions for how much and what type of carbs to eat before a workout. Weekends are not such an issue because I am at home but on Tuesday and Thursday I have started going to Water Aerobics after work. I really enjoy the class - but find that I need to eat more before class in order to "make it through". I am trying to figure out what I can eat 2 hours ahead (while I am still at work) . Complicating matters is the fact that I am a vegetarian. If you could give general guidance on what you would recommend- I can then substitute the non vegetarian items..0
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SHBoss - can you give some specific suggestions for how much and what type of carbs to eat before a workout. Weekends are not such an issue because I am at home but on Tuesday and Thursday I have started going to Water Aerobics after work. I really enjoy the class - but find that I need to eat more before class in order to "make it through". I am trying to figure out what I can eat 2 hours ahead (while I am still at work) . Complicating matters is the fact that I am a vegetarian. If you could give general guidance on what you would recommend- I can then substitute the non vegetarian items..
almost all veggies have carbs, a healthy serving of your preferred veggie about 1.5 hours before you work out should give you a little extra oomph. Veggies like eggplant, peas, peppers, carrots and even tomatoes all have decent carbs, but there are plenty that have a good amount of carbs. You just need to give them time to digest (thus the 1.5 hours). If you're really feeling tired at the end, bring a sports drink that has electrolytes and a LITTLE bit of sugar, just a little. Gatorade's actually pretty good for this, a little high in sugar, but not crazy (14g per 8 oz) but please note that a 16 oz bottle is TWO servings, which is way too much. Personally, I usually put 4oz in a bottle and fill the rest of the bottle with water, that's 7 oz of sugar, which is a decent amount to give you a boost, and also gives you a few electrolytes in case you're low on potassium and sodium (both important for sustained cardio).0 -
arielle - this might sound silly, but are you pairing your carbs with protein or enough protein to make the carbs last longer?
I run a lot so i definitely get the carb craving thing. i try and make sure my carbs last and i also follow up my runs with some LF milk for protein (and carbs)
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SHBoss - Thanx for the advice. This is great info. I am glad I asked. Adding exercise to the picture means I not only have to think about what I eat but also "when" I eat it. (and good idea about watering down the gatorade - I will do that).0
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I second the recommendation to limit carbs heavily for a few days then reintroduce them. That always seems to work for me.
Back in the day when I was running heavily, 25-40 miles per week, I had some carb heavy days of the week for targeted re-feeds and I generally ate more carbs daily (about 175-250g). Now that I typically only focus on interval training and lifting (heavy), I don't have near the carbohydrate demands as I did in my running days. I eat around 55-90g now, and that's a good level for me. I"m sure that's low for some, but all our needs are different.
I'm not sure I get the big fuss over the Tom Venuto article. He's in agreement that [low carb] diets which focus highly on protein and fat may lead to greater satiety. The down side is simply that for some, they're not easy to follow over time. But hey, is ANY form of healthful eating truly EASY to follow?0 -
Perhaps your input would be better received on posts if you weren't constantly trying to shove low carbs down everyones throat. We get it....you believe in it....it works for you....thats great! If other people don't believe in it.....just let it be....instead of constantly challenging anyone who doesn't share your same point of view around carbs. I have noticed, as have many others on MFP that you are very confrontational on several posts.
Agreed. It's repetitive and you often post your "opinions" in a very confrontational manner that is perceived as... well... annoying. Everyone knows this is a public forum and you're freely entitled to your opinions... but seriously.. I read things on this board that I disagree with on a daily basis... but I don't post to every single one of them. Why? Because my constant negative, contradictory opinions wouldn't make me out to be a very friendly person. Perhaps it would be better if you did the same. :flowerforyou:
Now, as far as carb cravings... I say eat them. If it's only one day... no big deal. I have days like this every few weeks. Today happens to be one of them, hence why your topic caught my eye! I have no desire for protein today, I just want carbs... and I'm eating them... in a healthy manner. And no, I don't believe anything is wrong with me, or I have a metabolic disturbance or I'm insulin resistant or that I have an over-abundance of yeast growing in dark places or I'm about to turn into a frog or what-have-you... :ohwell: I eat plenty of carbs... I don't do well without them and I'm losing weight just fine. To the OP, I'm sure you will also. :drinker:0 -
I lost 135 pounds eating carbs.Please don't hijack my thread with your views of the low carb lifestyle. I lose weight fine eating plenty of carbs and I will continue that way.
That being said, I am a fan of the good carbs simply because they are better for me, keep me going and feeling satisfied longer.
The fact is, your body needs all of it...carbs, protein, good fats...etc...to function properly.
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Please don't hijack my thread with your views of the low carb lifestyle. I lose weight fine eating plenty of carbs and I will continue that way.
Please do not berate me as I was not hijacking the thread, but merely giving my point of view on the article posted, which I have just as much right to do here as you or anyone else.
that is what makes this Forum work, everyone giving their input.
If you don't want everyone's opinion and only want to "hear what you want to hear" then I don't understand why you would post on a Public and Open forum.
I really don't think Arielle was berating you....thats a bit of a stretch....she merely asked you not to hijack the post....which is what you tend to do on any post that has to do with carbs. It's like you have some built in "carb topic radar" which you respond to in a negative way .
Perhaps your input would be better received on posts if you weren't constantly trying to shove low carbs down everyones throat. We get it....you believe in it....it works for you....thats great! If other people don't believe in it.....just let it be....instead of constantly challenging anyone who doesn't share your same point of view around carbs. I have noticed, as have many others on MFP that you are very confrontational on several posts.
But hey, I'm just giving my input and point of view and I guess I have just as much right to do so as anyone else...right? After all it is a public and open forum.
If you even read my post, I didn't push my beliefs on her or anyone else and I made a public apology in which I have not been confrontational with anyone.
In fact, people are being confrontational with me. I have humbled myself and I don't expect or will not let anyone attack me.
I understand that you do not believe you are being confrontational but you constantly come off that way. I'm not trying to attack you or offend you in any way and if you feel that I am please let me know and I will edit this post so that this thread is not deleted. I know you posted a thread apologizing for people taking you the wrong way but I personally haven't seen anything change. You're still constantly pushing the low carb lifestyle. We understand that it works for you but that does not mean it works for everyone else. Most of the posts I see from you are you negating a carb article someone posted. I don't think that's necessary. We all have different things that work and I am happy that you found something that works for you but it doesn't work for everyone. Maybe you could just take that into consideration before you feel the need to argue against someone eating carbs. Again, I would like to stress that I do not mean to attack or offend you but rather I'm trying to point out something a lot of people are noticing.
To the OP- I think if you're having carb cravings you should eat more whole grain carbs especially if you are starting to run more. From what I understand good carbs give you energy that you would need to run.0 -
To Banks - I agree about the veggies! When I strength train, I try to do carrots & hummus as my last snack before dinner 'cause it allows me to get through my strength training and my cardio with enough energy, versus if I were to eat a fruit or something else.
rcatr - Yeah. I always have protein. If I DO eat rice, it's about 1/2 cup with 4 oz. of chicken breast or tilapia. Is that not enough?
So... I've been doing my interval runs for a few weeks now (consistently) and the last few times, I haven't eaten anything before... I'm only out MAXIMUM 30 minutes and I eat almost immediately afterwards. I don't eat before just because I do it in the morning before work and I really can't push myself to wake up 2 hours before just to eat and then sit around for 2 hours to go out... I keep reading articles saying that running on an empty stomach is okay and gives a better fat burn, so long as you're not long distance running or out for a long period of time.
I seem to have more energy and better runs when I have the banana than when I don't but today I just chugged some water before and felt better than on days when I don't have anything in my belly so I may just start trying that. Hopefully I'm correct in assuming this is safe & okay to do.
I've been eating more carbs than before because of the cravings and the cravings aren't as bad as they were before. I'm not going over on carbs (save for days where I go over by no more than maybe 10g) but am getting enough so I think I was just having withdrawals from not eating so many. I'm better about eating more veggies the last couple weeks too so I'm probably getting enough from those as well.
Thanks everyone for your input!0
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