BODY BEAST

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Just received my 1090 bowflex dumbells, and I'm anxious to start Body Beast, I'm going to finish this month doing insanity. Does anyone out there have input on Body Beast? How were the results? Any info is appreciated.

Thanks!

Fern

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  • FullOfWin
    FullOfWin Posts: 1,414 Member
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    My input is that it is not the best way for a beginner or really anyone to train since it is a 3 day bro split. Sorry :(
  • fernandocontreras24
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    I looked up the 3 day split. All the pro's use a 5 day split which target 1 part per day. Several said that 3 day split is better, unless one wants to live in the gym? What would you recommend instead of body beast?

    After doing some fast research, it has both 3 day and 5 day splits. The "Build" workout double the muscle group work out. In the bulk, it target only 1 part.
  • SherryRueter
    SherryRueter Posts: 2,981 Member
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    Fernando - have you done any weight lifting before?

    My DH and myself have done Beast. I am actually in phase 3 of Lean beast (just started today).

    MY DH followed Huge Beast and, did gain about 10# but during Phase 3 of the meal plan he didn't quite get the cutting down - he found it difficult to follow that part of the nutrition plan. I'm not plugged into anyone who has done the nutrition plan to a T. Overall, he really liked the program and the shorter workouts. Both he and I have done P90X (several rounds), and P90X2 prior to starting beast.

    My personal thoughts are for you to do the program, use good form, and be okay with pressing the Pause button. Sagi sometimes goes really fast! Also, I would recommend adding in extra time for warming up, the warm ups and cool downs are wimpy...2mins. That's not enough for a normal person to be warmed up enough imo, and that short of a warm up will cause injury (or at least in me it does).

    When is your start date?
  • FullOfWin
    FullOfWin Posts: 1,414 Member
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    Weightlifting is one of those things where beginner's should not try to emulate pros. I will let you read a write up from VoxExMachina from bodybuilding.com forums

    Full Body Routines vs. Splits

    The question often arises, especially from beginners, about what type of routine to use. Your buddy told you to use a full body routine, but the muscle mags suggest a 5-day "bodybuilder" split. You don't want to start off on the wrong foot, but there is so much information out there that sorting through what to do can be difficult.

    This is some of my opinion on the subject, and maybe it'll help a few people out.


    Full Body Routines:

    In my opinion, this is the place for a beginner to start. I have many years of lifting experience, and have pretty much always used some form of bodybuilding split routine. However, if I had it to do over again, I would have begun with a good full-body routine, built around the compound lifts, done 3 times per week. When you are a beginner you don't generally have the muscular strength to work intensely enough, or with enough volume, to require as much recovery time as someone who is stronger or more experienced. If you are a young beginner, on top of that, you have very good recovery abilities due to high hormone levels. So, because you are recovered relatively quickly after each workout, you want to stimulate each muscle group more often to induce strength and growth.

    Another reason to start with a full body program is that this gives you the opportunity to learn and practice the basic lifts: squats, deadlifts, bench press, overhead press, barbell rows, etc. Whether your goal is bodybuilding, strength athlete, sports, or just remaining fit, these really ought to form the basis of any routine. No matter what path you choose to "branch out" on later, these core lifts will serve you well.


    2-Day Split Routines:

    So the next question becomes: when should I think about split routines? In very simple terms, the answer is: when full body routines become too much. Usually, as you get stronger, it becomes very difficult to maintain enough energy to do squats, deadlifts, bench press, etc. all on the same day. You may also find that you want to add in a few isolation exercises to bring up your weak areas, or you may want to begin focusing more on each core lift. Another issue is recovery; as you get stronger, you are able to work out more intensely, and that means longer recovery times. So at that point, it makes sense to "split" things up by only doing a part of your previous full routine on any given day.

    A logical place to make your first split is into an Upper / Lower type routine. This will have you doing your upper body work like bench press, rows, overhead pressing on 1 day, and your lower body work like squats on another day. Another way to go would be a "push/pull" type split where you do all your pulling exercises (rows, deads) on one day and your pushing exercises (squats, overhead press, bench) on another day. Exactly how you do it is up to you, but the point is to divide the workload per session. This will give you more time (and volume) per body part, and also give you a bit more recovery before you work that muscle again. Most people will typically cycle through a 2-day split like these twice per week. So instead of every muscle being stimulated 3 times per week with the full body, now it's twice per week with the 2-day split.


    3+ Day Splits:

    3, 4, 5 (or more!) day splits come in when you again feel the need to divide your workload to match your recovery abilities, or increase the amount of work you want to do on specific muscles or lifts. Generally, these type of splits are mostly bodybuilding related, but even strength athletes may chose to split so they can work on speed lifts one day, strength work another, etc.

    At this point (speaking to bodybuilding) many lifters will only hit each muscle group once per week. This has the advantage of letting you really hammer a muscle group with a lot of weight and volume, and then give it plenty of time to recover while you're bringing the pain to the next group. Your full body effort is broken down into segments that are manageable from a workload, energy, and recovery standpoint.

    If you are an "experienced" (older) lifter with decreased recovery abilities (we all ain't as young as we used to be), this type of split often is useful for staying healthy due to the increased recovery time per body part. The kids might not think it's important, but your tendons might.

    There are so many variations of splits that I won't even attempt to detail all the possibilities. If you follow the advice in this post, by the time you need a multiple day split, you'll know your body, your goals, and have a pretty good idea of what you want to do.


    Final Thoughts:

    I believe it's a logical notion to start with a full body routine, and begin splitting only when you feel the need to increase your recovery or increase your volume. If you stick with the concept that you're trying to hit a muscle as often as you are able while still recovering adequately, and let that be your guide, you'll do okay.

    Hopefully, this gives some food for thought to help you decide what type of routine you should use. Ultimately, however, it's worth saying that you can do fine with any well-designed program even if you begin with a split routine right from the beginning.
  • fernandocontreras24
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    sr88201 Thanks for the input. Im finishing this month of January with Insanity. Starting Beast in Feb.
  • coachlove
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    Stick to it exactly as the program suggest. I've had both beginners and experience lifters get great results from it. You can modify and adjust each exercise and weight to your skill level. I personal went from 167 to 185 pounds during the first round of 90 days. If you like a lot of cardio, it will be hard not to add anything extra. But again, if your goal is to gain lean muscle, follow it as closely as you can. Good luck!
  • joebanz77
    joebanz77 Posts: 283 Member
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    Sweet!! More folks doing Body Beast!! Hope ya don't mind me adding y'all!! It would be great to get the extra push!!!
  • tacguy
    tacguy Posts: 196
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    Did Body Beast last fall. Gained almost 10lbs in just over three months. Bulking or mass building really isn't my thing. I'm more into general fitness, but it worked!

    Good luck!
    Joe
  • tjprinzi
    tjprinzi Posts: 5
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    I'm halfway through P90X, and Body Beast just came in the mail. It's my next routine. I see this is a rather older thread. Anyone have any additional input since starting the program?
  • zoome360
    zoome360 Posts: 2
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    I just finished my 3rd week of Body Beast. I like it much better than P90X. Each routine is much shorter than P90X. Very short warm up (just a few minutes). Everything is over before you know it. Cardio is way too tough. Man can those big guys move fast.

    You should be able to figure out what weights to use after the first time through. I recommend starting with smaller weights on the first set (15 reps). You can always adjust up for the next set (12 reps). Then again for the 3rd and 4th sets (8 reps each) - typically.

    I'm not eating as many calories as they tell me to. They tell me to eat 2500 per day. I'm sticking with 2200 very clean calories - Macros (40,40, 20). I don't want to put on the fat as I still have a little left on me. I'm not trying to be a body builder - just put on a little muscle. I have noticed some gains in size and tone but not on the scale.

    I started Body Beast during my last week of P90X and overlapped a week. I did this because P90X is light for the final week and I don't do yoga. I did not want a light week as I did not feel like stopping.

    After 4 weeks, I find it much easier to do Body Beast each day than P90X. I really did not look forward to some of the P90X days - I did them anyways.

    Good Luck,
    Zoome
  • Seachicken84
    Seachicken84 Posts: 98 Member
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    I have done insanity and half way done with P90X now. Is body beast a decent way to lose the fat stil lurking around the love handle area. I am not a single digit body fat guy, but am interested in the beast. I just want to make sure I don't ad weight simply to bulk when I still need trimming.