Okay...need help, please. This is getting ridiculous.
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Since your calories are already low-ish/normal I would do what others had suggest and focus on where your calories are coming from. Eating clean at 1,600 calories is far different then eating mainly carbs or sugar at this intake level.
I lost 7 lbs and broke through my plateau of several months by keeping my calories the same but playing with my fat, protein and carb ratios.0 -
Before all the 1200'ers come bounding in, I will just leave this link and leave quietly. Am in too much of a good mood tonight to stay here.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/919346-still-think-your-1200-or-less-diet-is-a-good-idea?page=1#posts-13949560 -
Have you had your thyroid checked? I know that's an annoying question, but I'm 4'11" too and I maintain 93 lbs/BMI 19 on 1300 calories with a very sedentary lifestyle. I used to weigh 140/BMI 28 and I maintained on 2000 then, also sedentary.
Your numbers are not adding up to me, although I definitely believe you that you are accurate with your calorie counting and have experienced a 10 lb weight gain starting off weighing 140 lbs/4'11" on 1600 calories with a lot of activity. Imo that shouldn't have though happened unless something is off with your metabolism.0 -
You should do what you know works for you.0
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I agree opeing the diary would be very helpful. Tracking is such a huge part of maybe acheiving your goals...maybe food suggestions would be a great help to you..
food suggestions are to eat at a calorie deficit, you don't need to see someone's diary to say that.
I have found that sometimes the diary tells a different story. One lady last week said she was eating 1500 calories a day and not eating back exercise calories. She opened her diary and it showed that she was logging 900 calorie burns, eating those calories and was over her calorie goal 6 out of 14 days I looked at. 1 day was not logged. That's an extreme example but there is a lot of useful information in diaries sometimes. If someone is logging food but no drinks whatsoever, I would question what they were drinking, maybe they drink only water like I do (I like water) or maybe not. I also look at portion sizes and what entries they are selecting. We all know there are a lot of inaccurate entries on the database.
*i am not saying the Op isn't logging correctly but for me, step one is logging properly and consistently. Especially since she has run the numbers already.0 -
We're all the same, we all lose fat on a calorie deficit. You can't defy the law of thermodynamics.
But what's a deficit for one person may not be for another. That's where you law-makers get it wrong.0 -
I read your post, I don't know what to say about it really. You said a lot of different things, I can't address everything.
If you want advice that works, listen to people who have a reputable reputation. There are many people who like to give advice because they can. It's kind of a good thing people want to be helpful, but on the other hand it can be bad advice.
You said you gained 10lbs but look the same... How is that possible? Think of that. Your body did change under neither the fat. You're probably being impatient.
When I was doing a very intensive weight lifting program, i gained 9lbs, but i looked 15lbs lighter. You might be measuring in the wrong place. LIke for me, I would always measure my stomach, but guess what? That's the last place that fat will go away for me. I lose the fat everywhere else except my stomach till the end. Women usually store it in the hips, the last place for it go down.
Dietary recommendations. Keep in mind, all these are "ESTIMATES" they're not exact, this means you must find what works for you. To find what works for you do this. Eat at TDEE - 20%. For a month, monitor body fat, and weight. If you see positive changes over a month then keep at it. If you don't, low your calories by 10%. Try again for another month. No changes... drop another 10%.
The key is to be patient.
Thank you. To me, this make total sense. I always like your answers. You never tell someone what to do. Thanks again.:flowerforyou:0 -
We're all the same, we all lose fat on a calorie deficit. You can't defy the law of thermodynamics.
But what's a deficit for one person may not be for another. That's where you law-makers get it wrong.
Calorie Deficit = Eating under TDEE.
So a calorie deficit is the same for everyone.
QFT! People need to stop looking at what calorie intake worked for one person. OP- find out your TDEE and calculate a deficit.0 -
I understand that being patient is part of the game, but 3 months without any kind of change is just ridiculous.
If you aren't seeing the results you want, you should be mixing it up much sooner than this. If what you are doing isn't working, do something different. Have you tried adjusting your macros? Maybe you aren't getting enough or too much of fat/protein/carbs? Are you nutrient deficient on something like Vitamin B or D or some of the minerals? Maybe you are getting too many vitamins and are mildly toxic?
There are so many variables that you have to basically ask and answer these questions for yourself. What works for me may or may not work for you. I've learned what has worked for me in the past is no longer working for me now.
I stalled out in October 2012. Job stress and sleep deprivation are to blame. My job ends at the end of this month, so I plan on re-grouping and refocusing my energies toward my goals at that time. This week, I'm on "diet" vacation. :laugh:0 -
Since your calories are already low-ish/normal I would do what others had suggest and focus on where your calories are coming from. Eating clean at 1,600 calories is far different then eating mainly carbs or sugar at this intake level.
I lost 7 lbs and broke through my plateau of several months by keeping my calories the same but playing with my fat, protein and carb ratios.
I was bed ridden, with an injured back, eating pure junk food, lost 10lbs that month
Have you read the twinkie diet?
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html
Good for you then, my body doesn't respond like that. I wish it did. Plus I am not all about the "skinny fat" or ultra thin look, I like to sustain muscle mass
Although I am envious you lost weight while eating rubbish. I have never been that lucky and that is why I am trying to lose weight, I suppose. Is my body broken and I can send it back for a refund and get yours that is willing to lose weight while eating junk food? 0 -
Since your calories are already low-ish/normal I would do what others had suggest and focus on where your calories are coming from. Eating clean at 1,600 calories is far different then eating mainly carbs or sugar at this intake level.
I lost 7 lbs and broke through my plateau of several months by keeping my calories the same but playing with my fat, protein and carb ratios.
I was bed ridden, with an injured back, eating pure junk food, lost 10lbs that month
Have you read the twinkie diet?
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html
Ok, I think everyone gets it: you can lose weight eating junk food at a deficit.
When I eat junk food, I get ravenously hungry, so eating junk food at a deficit, for me, simply does not happen.
Everyone is different. Vive la différence!0 -
I stayed on 1200 a day (often with an extra 200 or so from exercise) until the extra pounds came off, and I'm 5'4". I agree with the posts that said that the quality of those calories really counts. Are you able to get the fresh produce and good protein you need for a healthy diet? My maintenance program is only 1410, and that seems to work for me, as I am pretty sedentary, too.0
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I can see exactly where this thread is heading, the 1200'ers are already circling and ready to dive, so as I am in quite a pleasant mood tonight I shall exit the thread at this point, OP I do hope you solve your problem, best of luck to you my lovely x
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Wow.
My body doesn't 'guess' whether it will be fed. It tells me when I am hungry and I listen to it. If I am not hungry, I am not going to stuff down a cheeseburger just because some internet calculator told me to. Advice is not one size fits all, which is why I prefaced my post with "for me".What types of foods make up your 1500 calories? For me, I have to keep my body guessing. If I eat the same amount every day, I don't go anywhere. So if I'm really hungry one day I'll have a 2000 calorie day, but then another day I'll do 1000 or so. The key for me is to listen to what my body is telling me. I also try to make all the calories count. I jump started my weight loss on low Carb so that Icould break my Carb habit. That was the best thing I could have done I think... now I eat carbs but not ALL carbs. Eat whole grains, lean protein, lots of veggies. Make everything count. You are really tiny and with your health issues you might need to tweak for a while to figure out what works.
^^^ Ican't help but eyeroll at that. Your body doesn't respond to guessing if it will get fed. Chances are your average calories for the week is why it responded. If your weekly average calories is lower than your TDEE then you will lose.0 -
Unfortunately, this post went exactly the way I thought it would.
I didn't mean to start another 1200/not 1200 argument.
I really appreciate everyone who offered serious advice...it really made me think about a few things (my medications, my height, my macros, etc.).
I think the only way I'll ever know for sure is to get some testing done. I've made the decision to to go my doctor, speak with her, and get testing done with the BodPod. I don't really have the extra money to do either of those things right now, but I see now that this is the only way I'll know for sure.
Thank you everyone!0 -
You're a very small woman. You aren't gaining on 1600 calories. How about cutting down to 1350 calories, which should be a half pound loss per week?0
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You are 4'11" so your calorie needs are LOWER than the standard MFP user. 1200 is acceptable for someone your height that's trying to lose weight. I'm 5'2" and goal for 1450 or so a day for weight loss. Simple ingredient foods will also really help you out, and make sure to stay hydrated and well rested.0
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Firstly, weight doesn't matter. Go by measurements and body fat. Measure once a month.
Secondly, your maintenance level is going to be quite a lot higher than what you're currently eating, nevermind to lose.
Your TDEE at 'moderately active' (3-5 days a week) to maintain your weight is 2311.
Your TDEE at 'very active' (6-7 days a week) to maintain your weight is 2572.
To lose 0.5lb a week at moderately active = 2061.
To lose 0.5lb a week at very active = 2322.
Eat more and measure.0 -
You are 4'11" so your calorie needs are LOWER than the standard MFP user. 1200 is acceptable for someone your height that's trying to lose weight. I'm 5'2" and goal for 1450 or so a day for weight loss. Simple ingredient foods will also really help you out, and make sure to stay hydrated and well rested.
At 4'11" working out 6 times a week, you think she should eat like 100 calories above what I suspect would be her BMR? Rubbish 'advice'.0 -
Unfortunately, this post went exactly the way I thought it would. I didn't mean to start another 1200/not 1200 argument.
I really appreciate everyone who offered serious advice...it really made me think about a few things (my medications, my height, my macros, etc.).
I think the only way I'll ever know for sure is to get some testing done. I've made the decision to to go my doctor, speak with her, and get testing done with the BodPod. I don't really have the extra money to do either of those things right now, but I see now that this is the only way I'll know for sure.
Thank you everyone!
Why does everyone think they have a medical condition as to why they cannot lose weight? :noway:0 -
Unfortunately, this post went exactly the way I thought it would. I didn't mean to start another 1200/not 1200 argument.
I really appreciate everyone who offered serious advice...it really made me think about a few things (my medications, my height, my macros, etc.).
I think the only way I'll ever know for sure is to get some testing done. I've made the decision to to go my doctor, speak with her, and get testing done with the BodPod. I don't really have the extra money to do either of those things right now, but I see now that this is the only way I'll know for sure.
Thank you everyone!
Why does everyone think they have a medical condition as to why they cannot lose weight? :noway:
Nevermind. I'm letting this thread go.0 -
1200 is way too low for women who are say 5'3", like me. I lost weight on 1200, but I also became lethargic, my hair shed way more, it was not pleasant. Since you're 4'11", 1200 may just be ideal for you.
I suggest googling tdee calculators online, be very honest with your activity level, and see what they tell you to eat. If you include exercise as part of your tdee, then don't eat back exercise calories, since they've already been accounted for. Try out a few different calculators to see what the average is.
Also, I picked up a dandy little food scale at a garage sale, which is a lot more accurate for measuring food than estimating sizes or amounts, or using measuring cups, although I use cups once in a while for dry foods like cereal. It feels ocd, but you get used to it. Scales are especially handy for meats and cheeses, since I usually underestimate what I'm eating with those foods, the scale means I can eat more of them. Woo!
The next issue may be that you're overestimating calories burned. Mfp #s are optimistic, some are downright laughable. I suggest a heart rate monitor. You don't need a fancy one, mine is a brand called Pyle, cost me $28 on amazon. Whoops, didn't see the last part of your post. Keeping this up for anyone else who is looking for help, though.
Anyway, these are the tips I received that really helped me, and I'm happy to pass them along. Good luck. 0 -
You are 4'11" so your calorie needs are LOWER than the standard MFP user. 1200 is acceptable for someone your height that's trying to lose weight. I'm 5'2" and goal for 1450 or so a day for weight loss. Simple ingredient foods will also really help you out, and make sure to stay hydrated and well rested.
At 4'11" working out 6 times a week, you think she should eat like 100 calories above what I suspect would be her BMR? Rubbish 'advice'.
Someone is feeling rude.
It should be a given that she should eat back her exercise calories (making it anywhere from 1700-2000 a day). Only she can determine what is perfect for her through trial and error, but her NET calories would probably be fine around where mine are. The first focus should be on nutrition, not calories. Make sure to get enough protein, fats, carbs, etc. and see where that puts you calorie wise.0 -
Unfortunately, this post went exactly the way I thought it would. I didn't mean to start another 1200/not 1200 argument.
I really appreciate everyone who offered serious advice...it really made me think about a few things (my medications, my height, my macros, etc.).
I think the only way I'll ever know for sure is to get some testing done. I've made the decision to to go my doctor, speak with her, and get testing done with the BodPod. I don't really have the extra money to do either of those things right now, but I see now that this is the only way I'll know for sure.
Thank you everyone!
It is frustrating to see this thread turn into another 1200 calorie argument. Despite the fact that I advocate eating as much as you can while losing weight, because of your height it seems more likely that 1200 is appropriate. But I would scale down gradually, not jump right to the low end.
You also didn't respond to those asking whether you use a food scale?0 -
Unfortunately, this post went exactly the way I thought it would. I didn't mean to start another 1200/not 1200 argument.
I really appreciate everyone who offered serious advice...it really made me think about a few things (my medications, my height, my macros, etc.).
I think the only way I'll ever know for sure is to get some testing done. I've made the decision to to go my doctor, speak with her, and get testing done with the BodPod. I don't really have the extra money to do either of those things right now, but I see now that this is the only way I'll know for sure.
Thank you everyone!
Why does everyone think they have a medical condition as to why they cannot lose weight? :noway:
Why do so many people feel the need to post every passive aggressive thought that flies into their head...0 -
I usually get confused reading answers on the forum because there are so many different conflicting opinions on calories and whatnot, but I really need help. I don't know what to do. If I could find someone who has been in the same situation, that would be awesome.
I've been on here since January 2012. Last year I ate 1200 calories and did mostly cardio 5 times a week. I ate back exercise calories only when I was hungry enough to eat them. I lost about 16 lbs and countless inches. (It would have been more, but last summer was tough for me and I didn't exactly stay on track during those months).
December 2012 I stalled out. January 2013, I read IPOARM and decided to increase my calories to 1600. I changed my workout routine to cardio and strength training (pilates and other low-impact exercises, though. Can't handle anything more due to health issues), cardio 3x a week, ST 3x a week.
Since January, I have gained 10 lbs on the scale. So obviously, no weight loss. No inch loss, either. Pictures look the exact same, except I think I see a slightly higher butt, but....that's it. No changes whatsoever. Clothes fitting the same.
I FEEL like I can feel more muscles in my thighs, but maybe I'm just so desperate to see a change that I'm just finding things that were there before.
I dropped down to 1500 about a week and a half ago. No change. I want to drop down to 1200, but I keep hearing from everybody how bad and horrible it is. I just don't know what to do! This is getting ridiculous.
Should I drop down to 1200, since I know that this works for me? I have CFS/ME, and I'm worried that maybe this means I have a lower caloric need as a result. I have no insurance, so I can't afford to go to the doctor and have my thyroid checked.
Stats: 4'11, 150 lbs(current, includes weight gain), pretty sedentary (student), with the exception of 40 minutes exercise 6x a week. Calculators online show my BF to be around 29%.
I am VERY careful about my calories (accuracy), and I use a HRM, so I'm not overestimating on calories burned. Thanks.
OMG!
You sound exactly like me!
We are the same height and share the same confusion about how many calories we should be eating, and we are both not losing despite seemingly trying to do everything right! I would love to be friends so that if one of us figures it out we can share..
I upped to 1400 last week even though Dan told me I needed to go to 2100 for a month! I just didn't think I could do it. Today I have upped to 2000, and I will stay here for as long as I can. I need to find out from dan whether maybe 2 weeks is enough, rather than a month. I am so frightened of putting on.
Hopefully we can do this together!0 -
Just guessed on your age (23) but here are your estimates....
BMR - 1421
Sedentary (little or no exercise, desk job) - 1772
Lightly Active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/wk) - 2031
Moderately Active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/wk) - 2289
Very Active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days/wk) - 2548
Exercising 6x a week puts you at LEAST moderately active, so your tdee is 2289. Take 20% cut and that puts you around 1800 daily goal. 1200 would be too low based on your numbers.
Good advice0
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