ketosis

bushokie
bushokie Posts: 180 Member
how long does it take someone to go into ketosis and anything a perason can do to spead up the process
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  • socioseguro
    socioseguro Posts: 1,679 Member
    ketosis is a medical "risk".

    please consult your doctor before taking medical risk

    http://www.webmd.com/diet/high-protein-low-carbohydrate-diets

    I wish you a safe journey towards a healthy lifestyle
  • Mustang_Susie
    Mustang_Susie Posts: 7,045 Member
    I would think it would vary with each individual depending upon several different factors.
    I don't believe there is one, simple answer.
  • Bailey532
    Bailey532 Posts: 65 Member
    I"m thinking it's a few days??? It varies person to person, but it normally takes me a few days. Did you get the ketostix??
  • tracymat
    tracymat Posts: 296 Member
    I think it usually takes me about 3 days. I am out as of this morning after eating some dessert yesterday... we'll see how many days it takes this time! :(
  • astronomicals
    astronomicals Posts: 1,537 Member
    F ketostix..... keep your carbs at 30 grams and do an intense long pump workout..... you wanna burn all the glycogen out of your muscles as fast as possible... youll be in ketosis in a day or so


    after a few days of 30G keep carbs at under 100... prepare to feel like crap for several weeks
  • jennydoesketo
    jennydoesketo Posts: 16 Member
    It took me less than two days (I use Ketostix). I have read that it can take anywhere from a couple days to a couple weeks. Good luck! :)
  • bushokie
    bushokie Posts: 180 Member
    thank you everyone
  • PippaJo_
    PippaJo_ Posts: 233 Member
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  • PippaJo_
    PippaJo_ Posts: 233 Member
    ketosis is a medical "risk".

    please consult your doctor before taking medical risk

    http://www.webmd.com/diet/high-protein-low-carbohydrate-diets

    I wish you a safe journey towards a healthy lifestyle



    Ketoacidosis is a risk.

    Ketosis is not.

    They are different.



    Two to three days is what it takes for me.
  • highervibes
    highervibes Posts: 2,219 Member
    If you're just starting your LC journey, I would say 48-72 hours. I find that if I'm in ketosis but at a birthday party and have a piece of cake etc. it'll only take 24hrs to get back to it.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    how long does it take someone to go into ketosis and anything a perason can do to spead up the process

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  • writetomab
    writetomab Posts: 226
    ketosis is a medical "risk".

    please consult your doctor before taking medical risk

    http://www.webmd.com/diet/high-protein-low-carbohydrate-diets

    I wish you a safe journey towards a healthy lifestyle

    Oh boy... Here we go again! :wink:
  • bushokie
    bushokie Posts: 180 Member
    ketosis is a medical issue well so is being fat...and so far all i've seen is positive feedback on ketosis and all the research seems positive..
  • rrsuthy
    rrsuthy Posts: 236 Member
    Hi,
    Go here for really good information...

    http://www.reddit.com/r/keto/wiki/faq
  • Scott_2025
    Scott_2025 Posts: 201 Member
    Here is a link about ketosis diets. This is my opinion, but Keto diets are risky and should be avoided, unless you are under direct supervision of a competent physician...

    http://www.lisajohnsonfitness.com/what-is-ketosis/
  • babydiego87
    babydiego87 Posts: 905 Member
    ketosis is a medical issue well so is being fat...and so far all i've seen is positive feedback on ketosis and all the research seems positive..
    how about this:

    eat less calories
    dont worry about ketosis

    mad i know, pretty innovative and out there
  • wren176
    wren176 Posts: 148 Member
    bump
  • highervibes
    highervibes Posts: 2,219 Member
    ketosis is a medical issue well so is being fat...and so far all i've seen is positive feedback on ketosis and all the research seems positive..
    how about this:

    eat less calories
    dont worry about ketosis

    mad i know, pretty innovative and out there

    Eat less calories, from the right foods... don't fight cravings and obsess about food. Also pretty simple.
  • andrederosier
    andrederosier Posts: 121 Member
    Here is a link about ketosis diets. This is my opinion, but Keto diets are risky and should be avoided, unless you are under direct supervision of a competent physician...

    http://www.lisajohnsonfitness.com/what-is-ketosis/

    Your link is useless since this lady has no idea what she is talking about. "Instead of using carbohydrates for energy, the body will turn to its own fat stores and break them down for energy instead." What about all the calories you are still eating in the form of protein and fat? She makes it sound like you are starving yourself.

    "I’ve also had the “pleasure” of experiencing the effects of a long-term ketonic diet. It happened when I was pregnant. At week 20 of my pregnancy, I could finally keep most of my food down. To give you some perspective, I ate a full meal on September 15 and my next full meal wasn’t until Thanksgiving Day." Having extreme morning sickness for 6 weeks isn't even close as an example of a ketosis diet or any other diet plan even.

    She may be knowledgeable about pilates but her article give no information that is anywhere near credible.
  • babydiego87
    babydiego87 Posts: 905 Member
    ketosis is a medical issue well so is being fat...and so far all i've seen is positive feedback on ketosis and all the research seems positive..
    how about this:

    eat less calories
    dont worry about ketosis

    mad i know, pretty innovative and out there

    Eat less calories, from the right foods... don't fight cravings and obsess about food. Also pretty simple.
    this. i did the cambridge diet and kept worrying about ketosis. i lasted 6 weeks before i realised how stupid and short sighted it was. ive lost more weight counting calories and eating food i enjoy from all food groups then the fad diets ive done
  • albertabeefy
    albertabeefy Posts: 1,169 Member
    how long does it take someone to go into ketosis and anything a perason can do to spead up the process
    Each person is different here, and yes there are things you can do to speed up the process.

    First, eat under 6% of your calories from carbohydrate during the initial keto-adaptation phase. On a 2,000 calorie diet this is 30g of carbohydrate. On a 1,200 calorie diet this is just under 20g.

    Second - and this is the difficult part for some people - drain your glycogen stores as much as possible, forcing the body to need to switch to keto-adaptation faster. This means exercise, preferably more into the anaerobic threshold (anaerobic metabolism needs glucose for fuel, thus draining glycogen stores more than slow-burn-cardio).

    At this point - drained glycogen stores and very-low-carbohydrate intake, your body will more-quickly switch to ketosis than it would if you didn't exercise, or did only moderate cardio. Some people experience what's called the "low-carb flu" at this point because keto-adaptation isn't easy for everyone. This is where too many people fail, they quit at this point.

    When you've done this a few days and find you can exercise without abnormal levels of fatigue, then pat yourself on the back and welcome to the wonderful world of ketosis.

    Most people find they can add back in some carbohydrate at this point, to as much as 12-15% of their caloric intake if exercising regularly and still maintain ketosis. Others might keep it lower to control glucose for medical reasons.

    Important note: Drink water ... in ketosis you have reduced glycogen stores and thus less overall water volume in your body and you can dehydrate easier than outside of ketosis. Sugar-free electrolyte solutions are good too (such as Powerade Zero or equivalent) simply because with less water in the body you also have less electrolytes.

    And please ignore all the "ketosis is dangerous!" crap that's being spewed by the ignorant. Ketosis is perfectly healthy and has been used to control epilepsy and diabetes for over a century.
  • babydiego87
    babydiego87 Posts: 905 Member
    and people who do this who dont have epilepsy and diabetes, its going to do what to their bodies exactly...?
  • BlisterLamb
    BlisterLamb Posts: 396 Member
    ketosis is a medical "risk".

    please consult your doctor before taking medical risk

    http://www.webmd.com/diet/high-protein-low-carbohydrate-diets

    I wish you a safe journey towards a healthy lifestyle

    Ketoacidosis is a medical risk. Ketosis is the body burning fat for fuel instead of carbs. And for some people it is medically necessary. I have Hashimotos' Thyroidits and I can eat 1200 calories a day, work out and burn a good number of calories and still gain weight if I am eating carbs. I have to hold my carbs under 50 grams a day. I am perfectly healthy, I bike 300 to 400 miles a week, lift weights, ballroom dance, hike, run, etc. I feel fine. I feel wretched if I eat too many carbs.

    And to answer OP's original question, it usually takes me about 3 days. Your results may vary.
  • albertabeefy
    albertabeefy Posts: 1,169 Member
    ketosis is a medical issue well so is being fat...and so far all i've seen is positive feedback on ketosis and all the research seems positive..
    how about this:

    eat less calories
    dont worry about ketosis

    mad i know, pretty innovative and out there

    Eat less calories, from the right foods... don't fight cravings and obsess about food. Also pretty simple.
    this. i did the cambridge diet and kept worrying about ketosis. i lasted 6 weeks before i realised how stupid and short sighted it was. ive lost more weight counting calories and eating food i enjoy from all food groups then the fad diets ive done
    While this may be true for you, it's important to realize each individual is different, and there are many who will fare better on a VLCKD (very-low-carbohdyrate ketogenic diet) than any other, and there are many who have a very legitimate medical reason to be on it - diabetes, PCOS, metabolic syndrome/insulin-resistance, and others.

    He's said he's researched it. After his research this is what he's chosen to implement. Instead of trying to push the OP to something other than his chosen diet, why not support him in it?

    FYI ketogenic diets have been studied over a century. In that time they've been found not-only safe, but superior to any other diet for glycemic control, overall weight-loss, lean-body-mass retention and all currently known markers of heart health including triglycerides and cholesterol profile. The benefits for the obese are often much-higher than for the merely overweight. Ketogenic diets are even something an individual can live with for life if they choose. There is no evidence that contradicts this.
  • albertabeefy
    albertabeefy Posts: 1,169 Member
    and people who do this who dont have epilepsy and diabetes, its going to do what to their bodies exactly...?
    It is a normal biochemical process that switches the metabolic pathway from generating ATP (what our cells 'feed off' during the process of cellular respiration) primarily from glucose to generating ATP primarily from bodyfat stores.

    Once keto-adapted, the diet will also do the following:

    1) provide more lean-body-mass retention while dieting than any other macronutrient profile
    2) lower triglyceride levels
    3) improve the cholesterol profile (HDL:LDL ratio)
    4) have higher overall fat-loss than any other diet
    5) and even improve motor and cognitive function (in some studies)

    That's what it does. Do some research on your own.
  • Lupercalia
    Lupercalia Posts: 1,857 Member
    In for the keto lulz :drinker:
  • MissyAZjourney
    MissyAZjourney Posts: 96 Member
    ketosis is a medical "risk".

    please consult your doctor before taking medical risk

    http://www.webmd.com/diet/high-protein-low-carbohydrate-diets

    I wish you a safe journey towards a healthy lifestyle


    Ketoacidosis is a risk.

    Ketosis is not.

    They are different.



    Two to three days is what it takes for me.


    Thanks^^ kept me from soap boxing. people should educate themselves before they open their mouths.
  • DalekBrittany
    DalekBrittany Posts: 1,748 Member
    People are TRYING to go into ketosis nowadays? If one of my patients was doing this I might have to slap them around.
    ETA: just realized it was not ketoacidosis. My B.
  • Mustang_Susie
    Mustang_Susie Posts: 7,045 Member
    and people who do this who dont have epilepsy and diabetes, its going to do what to their bodies exactly...?
    It is a normal biochemical process that switches the metabolic pathway from generating ATP (what our cells 'feed off' during the process of cellular respiration) primarily from glucose to generating ATP primarily from bodyfat stores.

    Once keto-adapted, the diet will also do the following:

    1) provide more lean-body-mass retention while dieting than any other macronutrient profile
    2) lower triglyceride levels
    3) improve the cholesterol profile (HDL:LDL ratio)
    4) have higher overall fat-loss than any other diet
    5) and even improve motor and cognitive function (in some studies)

    That's what it does. Do some research on your own.

    What does a person eat/not eat to achieve ketosis and how does one measure a therapeutic level?
  • albertabeefy
    albertabeefy Posts: 1,169 Member
    What does a person eat/not eat to achieve ketosis and how does one measure a therapeutic level?
    The medical standard for a ketogenic diet is very-low-carbohydrate (usually 10% or less calories from CHO), high-fat (usually 65-70% calories from fat) and moderate protein (making up the rest.)

    Diabetics and other people with insulin-resistance (PCOS, metabolic syndrome, Hashimoto's) will often intake less carbohydrate than the "general guideline" to properly maintain their blood chemistry.

    As for how one measures a "therapeutic level" - I'm not sure exactly what you mean by the question. There are, however, literally dozens of studies showing the benefits:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=vlckd
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=ketogenic+diet+weight+loss
    http://scholar.google.ca/scholar?hl=en&q=vlckd&btnG=&as_sdt=1,5&as_sdtp=
    http://scholar.google.ca/scholar?q=ketogenic+diet+&btnG=&hl=en&as_sdt=0,5

    You can also visit Dr. Andreas Eenfeldt's excellent blog/information page on ketogenic (Low-Carb/High-Fat) diets at www.dietdoctor.com and his links to multiple studies on it's benefits here: http://www.dietdoctor.com/science
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