Starvation Mode
dk82
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Hello everyone, This is an article I found about the body going into starvation mode. I found it interesting and thought I would share.
http://caloriecount.about.com/truth-starvation-mode-ft28742
http://caloriecount.about.com/truth-starvation-mode-ft28742
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Interesting....thanks for posting!
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Great! thanks for sharing.0
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I'm so glad you posted this. I said this type of thing a thousand times a couple months ago, and people continuously bashed me for being uninformed and unhelpful. Great find.0
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Well, my food diary kept tell me that I was too low on calories and that my body would go into starvation mode. I had heard the if the body goes into sarvation mode that my weight loss would slow down....don't want that to happen!!!! So I decided to look it up for myself.0
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I think the starvation mode thing is very iffy... I think it's more if you're overexcercising and undereating. Obviously your body needs fuel because I experienced it. I was eating 1200 per day plus exercise calories, leaving 200-300 per day but burning close to 3,000 calories a week. I didn't lose for a month, then as soon soon as I increased to 1400 and started eating all my exercise calories, I lost inches. Love the question & answer at the bottom of the page! Sent it to my mom, who is on the HCG diet.
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Thanks for posting, useful information even if I'm skeptical about some of it.
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I'm so glad you posted this. I said this type of thing a thousand times a couple months ago, and people continuously bashed me for being uninformed and unhelpful. Great find.
Hey, don't feel bad I have been saying this for the past year and some change..............
I don't believe in Starvation Mode, it is a myth...........I was told that it got started in the 80's to push protein powders to body builders and now it is worth its weight in gold.
I actually am learning the art of Internittent Fasting and I love it. It gives me a lot of freedom from food and freedom in life in general..........0 -
Part of the problem is that people mean different things by "starvation mode". The most common I hear around here is: if you don't eat enough calories, your body will go into starvation mode and you won't lose weight!"
But that doesn't really happen, at least not like that, and it certainly doesn't happen if you have a day or two of really low net calories. It takes months of being on a starvation diet (usually defined as eating 50% or less calories than you burn) to get your metabolic rate to drop so low that your intake and outtake match, if that's even possible.
In one study, calories were restricted to 50% of what was burned and after about 6 months of this metabolic rate dropped to 40%. But that still left a 10% deficit and the subjects continued to lose weight. (They also went a little mad, but that's another issue.)
OTOH, almost as soon as you start restricting your calories, even if you are only restricting a little, your BMR will go down. Some people call that "starvation mode." However, most of the scientific literature calls that the "famine response". The amount that your BMR lowers at first is actually pretty small and you probably won't notice it. But the higher your calorie restriction and the longer you restrict, the greater the percentage your BMR slows down. At some point, you get to a place of diminishing returns.
The other thing that happens is that people aren't machines and we don't live in laboratory conditions. So, while the people in studies continue to lose weight when their intake and output is precisely measured, people in real life do things subconsciously (and sometimes consciously) to get their calorie input and output to balance.
These include fooling ourselves about how much we're eating -- not remembering to log everything we consume, not measuring and our portion size goes up so we're eating more than we log --- fooling ourselves about how much we're exercising -- remembering that we exercised longer than we did or more intensely than we did -- and doing things to burn less calories -- taking the elevator more, walking less, sitting more, taking more naps, sleeping longer at night, etc.
We can combat some of this by being on MFP. If you log your food, you are way ahead of someone who doesn't, even if you do get your portion sizes wrong sometimes. If you have a HRM to judge calories burned, instead of using some online formula or the number from a machine at the gym that may or may not apply to you, that helps too.
The other thing that helps is to eat enough calories that your body can perform your daily activities. That will make it less likely that you will do some of those things that lower your energy expenditure (such as sleeping more and slowing down everyday movement outside of exercise). After all, what's the point of restricting yourself to a 1500 calorie a day deficit if you make up 1000 of those calories by a slower BMR and by moving less? You might as well just aim for a 500 calorie a day deficit to start with -- you'll be less frustrated and you'll be eating closer to how you are going to maintain for the rest of your life.
Then again, when I was first losing, I had massive calorie restriction because of my surgery -- I could barely eat 750 calories a day for a few months there. But I had tons of energy and was losing weight at a fast enough clip. So I don't think everyone has to eat 1400 net calories to lose weight or that no one can lose much weight with severe restriction. The main thing is to make sure you are being supervised by a doctor, if your net calories are well below your BMR so that you can be checked out for any signs of malnutrition and your diet can be adjusted as needed.
My doctor had me up my protein take as my exercise intensity went up (which had the indirect impact of upping my calories but not to equal my exercise calories) and I also had regular lab work done. Plus, exercising helps raise your metabolic rate and that can combat the slow down from calorie restriction to some extent.
The bottom line is that if you expend 2500 calories a day and eat 1500, you will lose more weight than if you expend 2500 and eat 2000. The trick is to keep the expenditure the same as you lower your calories. Most people don't do that.0 -
I do not go with any starvation mode - well not in the way it is bandied about all the time anyway.
If there were a thing such as starvation mode in the way people go on and on about it, could somebody please, please enlighten me on a few things:
1. If starvation mode cause people to stop losing weight explain how come anorexics can end up at 56lbs or just above - surely going by what some people have gone on and on about, starvation mode should surely have kicked in and stopped such drastic weight loss - so much so in fact, that people weighing so little do die.
2. If somebody were to have a percentage of fat somewhere like 40% and go below their recommended daily calories (ie 1200), how the hell could they suddenly go into starvation mode when they would have loads and loads of fat to burn!
True Starvation mode, from what I have gleaned from the medical profession, kicks in when somebody has less than 5% of fat on their body.
One last comment from me on this starvation mode business to, something which really gets me wound up and on my soap box - I find it a bloody insult to all those that have been starved to death in the past, whether because of famine, concentration camps, food being withheld due to torture etc etc, tell those people and their families about this "starvation mode" and they will wonder why the hell it never kicked in for their loved ones and saved them from an excrutiating death!!! :mad:
Sorry for the rant, I get so mad because Starvation mode is used blase and can be an excuse by some dieters and it truly is an insult to people that have starved to death in the past.0 -
For guys anyway. For us gals, it's more like 10-12 %. Does that make us the lucky ones or them? :laugh:True Starvation mode, from what I have gleaned from the medical profession, kicks in when somebody has less than 5% of fat on their body.0 -
Well I get equally angry because people call "starvation mode' a MYTH, when, after 4 years of starvation level dieting (less than 800 calories per day) and 1 year of struggling to reset my metabolism and eat normally, I STILL cannot lose any weight eating at what SHOULD be a healthy deficit. If it's not a myth, then WHY can't I lose weight????? I'm over it and I'm over people who think it's a simple matter of eating less. I weigh, measure, log every damn bite I put in my mouth and after a year and a half of doing so, I'm very positive of what I take in. I eat 1200-1400 calories per day. I've done all sorts of exercises and am currently doing only yoga as I'm trying to de-stress my adrenal glands. And not one single pound or inch in nearly a friggin year. Yeah, no such thing as starvation mode.....riiiiiiiiiiiiight.0
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Well I get equally angry because people call "starvation mode' a MYTH, when, after 4 years of starvation level dieting (less than 800 calories per day) and 1 year of struggling to reset my metabolism and eat normally, I STILL cannot lose any weight eating at what SHOULD be a healthy deficit. If it's not a myth, then WHY can't I lose weight????? I'm over it and I'm over people who think it's a simple matter of eating less. I weigh, measure, log every damn bite I put in my mouth and after a year and a half of doing so, I'm very positive of what I take in. I eat 1200-1400 calories per day. I've done all sorts of exercises and am currently doing only yoga as I'm trying to de-stress my adrenal glands. And not one single pound or inch in nearly a friggin year. Yeah, no such thing as starvation mode.....riiiiiiiiiiiiight.
Stormie, I completely understand. I am going through the same thing and after a LONG time, i am just starting to lose weight, albeit VERY slowly. i spent way too long eating around 1200-1300 cals, running 4-5 mi 4x a week and lifting weights....and GAINING weight. My metabolism was fried.
When i restarted logging in May, i set my baseline for 1600 cals. There are times that when i run, i can't eat all my exercise cals back, but i make sure that I at least net 1200 every day. There's only been @4 or 5 days since I started when i was under 1200 cals net. And I've lost 5.5 lbs since May 4th, which is INCREDIBLY slow when people are losing that in 2 or 3 weeks. i think i lost 2 or 2.5 lbs for the entire month of June (well, technically thru 7/1)
In that time, I have weighed just about everything. (ok, sometimes lettuce i don't way, lol). I try to drink at least 8 glasses of water a day. It's been a very slow process and I understand your frustration. I'm not even trying to reach the low end of my weight range...I'm aiming for the middle and I realize it's going to take a while after the damage i've done to my body.
Anyway, just wanted you to know that I know how it feels. Friend me if you want some support.
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Mine says the same occasionally. However if my MFP says 1200 a day and sometimes I eat slightly under it (about 1100 or 1000) I doubt your body can go into starvation mode for those 100 or 200 calories, right?0
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For guys anyway. For us gals, it's more like 10-12 %. Does that make us the lucky ones or them? :laugh:
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Well I get equally angry because people call "starvation mode' a MYTH, when, after 4 years of starvation level dieting (less than 800 calories per day) and 1 year of struggling to reset my metabolism and eat normally, I STILL cannot lose any weight eating at what SHOULD be a healthy deficit. If it's not a myth, then WHY can't I lose weight????? I'm over it and I'm over people who think it's a simple matter of eating less. I weigh, measure, log every damn bite I put in my mouth and after a year and a half of doing so, I'm very positive of what I take in. I eat 1200-1400 calories per day. I've done all sorts of exercises and am currently doing only yoga as I'm trying to de-stress my adrenal glands. And not one single pound or inch in nearly a friggin year. Yeah, no such thing as starvation mode.....riiiiiiiiiiiiight.
My base rate is just over 1400 calories per day, if I were to eat 1400 calories per day because MFP said I should do that, I wouldn't lose any weight. Do you know what your base rate is, your true base rate. That is where you need to start.
Some people have a high base rate of say 2000 calories per day, this is the calories that are needed to sustain you just for sitting on your butt doing nothing or laying in bed all day, and then when they go on 1200 calories per day, the weight will literatlly drop off, very quickly. - at first anyway, until the excess fluid has all gone, then it gets down to the nitty gritty stuff of burning off the fat and that is an extremely slow process.
Open up your diary to public, not so that people, me or anybody else can pick holes in it, that is not for anybody to do, if fact, that would be a bloody cheek to be honest, but so that somebody perhaps can suggest something that perhaps you have inadvertently overlooked and anything that may be helpful to you just has to be good.
You don't deserve to be so frustrated with it after persevering for so damned long, let others see what they can find, it could be right under your nose what you are missing xxx0 -
Mine says the same occasionally. However if my MFP says 1200 a day and sometimes I eat slightly under it (about 1100 or 1000) I doubt your body can go into starvation mode for those 100 or 200 calories, right?
No, it won't, it's us and our brains that stick everything in rigid little boxes, such as numbers to the dot, not our bodies for one or two days :laugh:0 -
Well I get equally angry because people call "starvation mode' a MYTH, when, after 4 years of starvation level dieting (less than 800 calories per day) and 1 year of struggling to reset my metabolism and eat normally, I STILL cannot lose any weight eating at what SHOULD be a healthy deficit. If it's not a myth, then WHY can't I lose weight????? I'm over it and I'm over people who think it's a simple matter of eating less. I weigh, measure, log every damn bite I put in my mouth and after a year and a half of doing so, I'm very positive of what I take in. I eat 1200-1400 calories per day. I've done all sorts of exercises and am currently doing only yoga as I'm trying to de-stress my adrenal glands. And not one single pound or inch in nearly a friggin year. Yeah, no such thing as starvation mode.....riiiiiiiiiiiiight.
My base rate is just over 1400 calories per day, if I were to eat 1400 calories per day because MFP said I should do that, I wouldn't lose any weight. Do you know what your base rate is, your true base rate. That is where you need to start.
Some people have a high base rate of say 2000 calories per day, this is the calories that are needed to sustain you just for sitting on your butt doing nothing or laying in bed all day, and then when they go on 1200 calories per day, the weight will literatlly drop off, very quickly. - at first anyway, until the excess fluid has all gone, then it gets down to the nitty gritty stuff of burning off the fat and that is an extremely slow process.
Open up your diary to public, not so that people, me or anybody else can pick holes in it, that is not for anybody to do, if fact, that would be a bloody cheek to be honest, but so that somebody perhaps can suggest something that perhaps you have inadvertently overlooked and anything that may be helpful to you just has to be good.
You don't deserve to be so frustrated with it after persevering for so damned long, let others see what they can find, it could be right under your nose what you are missing xxx
I've been here a long time. I don't need to be picked apart. For the last year, I've eaten organic, whole foods and very little is processed. I know full well how RMR and maintenance works and have studied how leptin, ghrelin, cortisol and insulin function to metabolize our nutrients. I test my blood sugar periodically and it's normal.
I am currently operating on the theory that I possibly have adrenal fatigue (due to the years of extreme dieting plus heavy stress) and am attempting to nourish them back to health. This includes not doing any heavy cardio (as all exercise is a form of stress), replacing it with yoga, getting more sleep, as well as increasing my vitamin B, D, C and pantothenic acid. I'm cutting out all stimulants (caffeine, energy vitamins and drinks) and continuing to eat healthy. Whatever happens, happens.
But I think it is irresponsible to tell people that they can't hurt themselves or put themselves into starvation mode by eating too little. They most certainly CAN... if done for long enough and severely enough. And no, it does not necessarily mean the person will be an anorexic or look like an concentration camp survivor.0 -
Thanks for sharing that. Good stuff and interesting, DeniseHello everyone, This is an article I found about the body going into starvation mode. I found it interesting and thought I would share.
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Exactly, same for me.
It kills me to see people starving themselves. All a person needs to do is look at a true athlete, one that is savvy about exercise and food. If you are eating balanced meals, getting enough water and a normal amount of exercise to tone or build muscle(for your size and weight)I doubt if you will be hungry. I know not everyone is the same but if something isn't working for you and you are miserable, anyone here, please change it, try something someone suggests that may sound crazy(like eating more healthy foods(proteins, carbs, fats(yes fats)dairy, multi grains, fruit and vegies). If you are suffering what can it hurt to try??
deniseI think the starvation mode thing is very iffy... I think it's more if you're overexcercising and undereating. Obviously your body needs fuel because I experienced it. I was eating 1200 per day plus exercise calories, leaving 200-300 per day but burning close to 3,000 calories a week. I didn't lose for a month, then as soon soon as I increased to 1400 and started eating all my exercise calories, I lost inches. Love the question & answer at the bottom of the page! Sent it to my mom, who is on the HCG diet.
Thanks for posting, useful information even if I'm skeptical about some of it.0 -
It works amazingly and the benefits are not just fat loss but feeling great, physically, mentally, and emotionally!!! woohoo!!!!Well, my food diary kept tell me that I was too low on calories and that my body would go into starvation mode. I had heard the if the body goes into sarvation mode that my weight loss would slow down....don't want that to happen!!!! So I decided to look it up for myself.0
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I've been here a long time. I don't need to be picked apart. For the last year, I've eaten organic, whole foods and very little is processed. I know full well how RMR and maintenance works and have studied how leptin, ghrelin, cortisol and insulin function to metabolize our nutrients. I test my blood sugar periodically and it's normal.
I am currently operating on the theory that I possibly have adrenal fatigue (due to the years of extreme dieting plus heavy stress) and am attempting to nourish them back to health. This includes not doing any heavy cardio (as all exercise is a form of stress), replacing it with yoga, getting more sleep, as well as increasing my vitamin B, D, C and pantothenic acid. I'm cutting out all stimulants (caffeine, energy vitamins and drinks) and continuing to eat healthy. Whatever happens, happens.
But I think it is irresponsible to tell people that they can't hurt themselves or put themselves into starvation mode by eating too little. They most certainly CAN... if done for long enough and severely enough. And no, it does not necessarily mean the person will be an anorexic or look like an concentration camp survivor.
Who said anything about picking you apart?? That is precisely what I was saying people should not do! You were asking why you were not losing weight even though you were eating between 1200-1400 calories per day and logging everything, that's fine, but nobody can answer you or suggest anything if that's all they know! You asked the question, nobody approached you to grill you :frown:
If you are satisfied with what you are doing, you are obviously doing it right, so there is no problem is there, or is there? I did say, nobody had the right to pick holes in anything you were doing, but to see if there was anything you have missed, there is not one person here or anywhere that knows everything and there will always be something we all miss and what one person misses another will see. You chose to read my posting as you wanted to, your choice.
By the way nowhere in my previous posting did I say ANYTHING about if somebody were in starvation mode that they would look like a concentration camp victim or an anorexic. What I said was that it was an insult to bandy the phrase "starvation mode" about so freely0 -
My husband and I were just talking about this is morning. He is worried I am going to go into this "mode", as I am eating around 900-1000 calories a day (1200 calorie max), and this is suppost to take off 2 lbs a week. To maintain my weight, I would be able to eat 1800 I believe, so I am cutting them a lot.
I try to exercise everyday at my gym, and I am there at least 4 times a week if not everyday. At the gym, I usually leave there and have burned 400-600 calories in an hour on cardio machines. I then log everything in exactly, my eating healthy, portions, I weigh and measure everything, its a new type of life I am loving.
He is worried I am not eating my calories I am burning at the gym, so at the end of the day with 1200 + my 400 at the gym, I now am supposed to eat 1600 calories, when I have only eaten 900-1000 somedays. He is worried this will put me in the mode of starvation, where I am not hungry at all, and if I am, I still snack, but it is healthier choices, like a yogurt or banana.. only using another 40-100 calories, instead of a couple cookies or something.
I have lost 9lbs so far, and have been doing this for a month. Should I be worried?0 -
I have a simple belief system about all this and I have seen a lot of winners on this site. I don't know of one that didn't fuel their body by eating at least 2/3 of their exercise calories, drinking enough water, and fluctuating their calories(some days a little over, some day a little under). Only the individual can decide what they believe is right. Like the blonde lady said above, none of us are professionals, although their may be one or two on this site, who knows. We all just share what works for us. You can read up on a lot of articles and one will tell you one thing and another, well, again, it's your call who to believe.
For me it's logic. If I am burning 1000 calories a day(when I can burn 1200 laying in bed)that means I've burned 2200. What is my body going to use to build and tone if I only eat 900 calories? It won't be just fat, I believe that. I believe that the first thing the body burns is food we've eaten, second, lean muscle mass, and last, fat.
When we eat exercise calories that doesn't mean we are eating junk, not if we are smart. We are replenishing with our "new lifestyle" meals, balanced nutrition that builds muscles and makes our organs function properly. Not empty calories that just get stored as fat.
Just my opinion, DeniseMy husband and I were just talking about this is morning. He is worried I am going to go into this "mode", as I am eating around 900-1000 calories a day (1200 calorie max), and this is suppost to take off 2 lbs a week. To maintain my weight, I would be able to eat 1800 I believe, so I am cutting them a lot.
I try to exercise everyday at my gym, and I am there at least 4 times a week if not everyday. At the gym, I usually leave there and have burned 400-600 calories in an hour on cardio machines. I then log everything in exactly, my eating healthy, portions, I weigh and measure everything, its a new type of life I am loving.
He is worried I am not eating my calories I am burning at the gym, so at the end of the day with 1200 + my 400 at the gym, I now am supposed to eat 1600 calories, when I have only eaten 900-1000 somedays. He is worried this will put me in the mode of starvation, where I am not hungry at all, and if I am, I still snack, but it is healthier choices, like a yogurt or banana.. only using another 40-100 calories, instead of a couple cookies or something.
I have lost 9lbs so far, and have been doing this for a month. Should I be worried?0 -
As someone who has run the gambit on fitness levels throughout the last couple years, I'd be willing to bet that 90% of the time that someone thinks they are "going into starvation mode," they are wrong. Plain and simple. Your body will not start slowing its metabolic rates until food intake has become a true problem. I'd also be willing to bet that a lot of times it's the easiest way to rationalize around the fact that losing weight is not a constant, easy process. Things will lull at times, changing up your workouts and making sure you're eating WELL is more important than "oh, i should start eating more." People have to be willing to be honest with themselves constantly, instead of looking for a path with less resistance.
Using high performance athletes is NOT a good example for the average user of this site. Do those of you who mention things like that know WHY guys like Michael Phelps take in 12,000 calories a day? It's because he's swimming olympic heats for hours a day. This does not compare to an hour or two that we may spend at the gym, and it's not a great comparison.
Simple fact is, being hungry =/= starving.0 -
There are plenty of people on this site who don't eat at least 2/3 of their exercise calories who are losing weight and doing great.I don't know of one that didn't fuel their body by eating at least 2/3 of their exercise calories,
You can believe that but it flies in the face of all scientific evidence.I believe that the first thing the body burns is food we've eaten, second, lean muscle mass, and last, fat.
Our bodies are designed to burn what we don't need over what we do ... which means you burn fat over muscle.
It makes no sense for our bodies to burn fat last. We need our muscles to move around. The fat (over our essential fat that cushions our organs) is there to tied us over when food is scarce. That's it's purpose in life and, when we make food "scarce" but voluntarily not eating as much as we burn, it gets burned up.
If humanity burned muscles over fat preferentially, the human race would never have survived because historically food has been scarce over much of our existence.0 -
As someone who has run the gambit on fitness levels throughout the last couple years, I'd be willing to bet that 90% of the time that someone thinks they are "going into starvation mode," they are wrong. Plain and simple. Your body will not start slowing its metabolic rates until food intake has become a true problem. I'd also be willing to bet that a lot of times it's the easiest way to rationalize around the fact that losing weight is not a constant, easy process. Things will lull at times, changing up your workouts and making sure you're eating WELL is more important than "oh, i should start eating more." People have to be willing to be honest with themselves constantly, instead of looking for a path with less resistance.
Using high performance athletes is NOT a good example for the average user of this site. Do those of you who mention things like that know WHY guys like Michael Phelps take in 12,000 calories a day? It's because he's swimming olympic heats for hours a day. This does not compare to an hour or two that we may spend at the gym, and it's not a great comparison.
Simple fact is, being hungry =/= starving.
ITA with this poster. If you are overweight, eating 1200 calories a day and exercising on top of it for 2 weeks and haven't lost any weight, you are not in 'starvation mode'. Everyone loves to throw that word around and it drives me batty. 99% of the time you are eating too many calories and not at a high enough deficit. I think we underestimate how many calories we eat and overestimate how many calories we burn.
Bottom line is it is calories in vs calories out!0 -
Just posting so I can come back to this thread. It is interesting, but I cannot keep my eyes open!0
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As someone who has run the gambit on fitness levels throughout the last couple years, I'd be willing to bet that 90% of the time that someone thinks they are "going into starvation mode," they are wrong. Plain and simple. Your body will not start slowing its metabolic rates until food intake has become a true problem. I'd also be willing to bet that a lot of times it's the easiest way to rationalize around the fact that losing weight is not a constant, easy process. Things will lull at times, changing up your workouts and making sure you're eating WELL is more important than "oh, i should start eating more." People have to be willing to be honest with themselves constantly, instead of looking for a path with less resistance.
Using high performance athletes is NOT a good example for the average user of this site. Do those of you who mention things like that know WHY guys like Michael Phelps take in 12,000 calories a day? It's because he's swimming olympic heats for hours a day. This does not compare to an hour or two that we may spend at the gym, and it's not a great comparison.
Simple fact is, being hungry =/= starving.
ITA with this poster. If you are overweight, eating 1200 calories a day and exercising on top of it for 2 weeks and haven't lost any weight, you are not in 'starvation mode'. Everyone loves to throw that word around and it drives me batty. 99% of the time you are eating too many calories and not at a high enough deficit. I think we underestimate how many calories we eat and overestimate how many calories we burn.
Bottom line is it is calories in vs calories out!
Amen! Excellent post!!
It's been that way for me since my first weight loss programme and it will be that way until my last. Hopefully this time will be my last :laugh:
If my weight loss suddenly slows down I will stick in another exercise day and so on and so forth. :flowerforyou:0 -
Hi after reading this is it okay not to eat my exercise points, i am allocated 1200 cals a day but after doing exercise and updating my log it says i will go into starvation mode and my weight wont shift
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I lost almost 11 stone starving myself (600 cals a day roughly) over six months.
While I lost at an incredible amount weight what I wasn't doing was getting my body ready for 'normal' so to speak, when I did stop the 600 cals a day I ended up bouncing back up with a vengeance.
Also I was putting my health at risk, I was told I was close to giving myself diabetes as my blood sugar was going crazy, was close to damaging my liver and my kidneys, I was training like crazy as well so I wasn't giving my body anything to repair the damage my workouts were doing.
Starvation mode? I don't want to say either way if it exists or not, all I know is that it's better to be sensible and 'lifestyle change' rather than go on an insane crash diet, they do work in the short term, but then you are not ready for when you're not crash dieting.0
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