Lifting Heavy - changed it up... Is it good enough?
BarbaraCarr1981
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I guess all along I was doing OHP wrong - I was really doing a push press or something. So tonight I did this for my strong lifts:
Deads 90lbs 5*5
OHP 50lb 5*5, 2*3 (I kept my feet glued to the floor the whole time but I could only do 3 reps on the last 2 sets.)
Tris 25lb 5*5
Bis 25lb on each arm 5*5
Pushups 3*10 (knees on floor)
Quads (Leg extension i think) on gym set (I think the weight is set around 100lbs - its not marked so don't know) 5*5
What do you heavy lifters think of this? I really just started out couple months ago but Im getting more education on how I should be doing things. My goal is just to lower body fat and become lean looking. Fit back into prepreg clothes.... Currently 25% BF. Eating at a 500cal deficit 7 days a week since April 1st. CW is 150-155lbs. Heigh 5'9". 31 years old. I also play badminton once a week and do 2-3 walks with the baby in the stroller.
Any advice peeps?
Thanks
Deads 90lbs 5*5
OHP 50lb 5*5, 2*3 (I kept my feet glued to the floor the whole time but I could only do 3 reps on the last 2 sets.)
Tris 25lb 5*5
Bis 25lb on each arm 5*5
Pushups 3*10 (knees on floor)
Quads (Leg extension i think) on gym set (I think the weight is set around 100lbs - its not marked so don't know) 5*5
What do you heavy lifters think of this? I really just started out couple months ago but Im getting more education on how I should be doing things. My goal is just to lower body fat and become lean looking. Fit back into prepreg clothes.... Currently 25% BF. Eating at a 500cal deficit 7 days a week since April 1st. CW is 150-155lbs. Heigh 5'9". 31 years old. I also play badminton once a week and do 2-3 walks with the baby in the stroller.
Any advice peeps?
Thanks
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No advice, as I am a weight lifting newbie. But I just have to say the idea of lifting 100 pounds with my quads makes me want to run away, screaming! :sick:0
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OHP and bar rows (60lbs) are rotated between Mon Wed and Fridays.0
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Oh ya, and Im doing the 30 day Squat Challenge with no weights.0
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I would strongly recommend that you purchase personal training sessions, even just one a week for 6 weeks. Ask questions; work on each lift/strength training exercise. Work with the trainer to master your form. Without form you are wasting your time and asking for injury. Ask your trainer what he/she recommends you work on throughout the week & how you should be managing your macronutrients.0
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I would strongly recommend that you purchase personal training sessions, even just one a week for 6 weeks. Ask questions; work on each lift/strength training exercise. Work with the trainer to master your form. Without form you are wasting your time and asking for injury. Ask your trainer what he/she recommends you work on throughout the week & how you should be managing your macronutrients.0
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For a beginner, I wouldn't bother doing bicep or tricep exercises. If you're doing the other compound lifts, they are somewhat redundant. Maybe later you can add them to your routine, but don't worry about them now. Save yourself a few minutes in the gym!
Switch your pushups to a bench press. You can start with dumbbells, but you'll need to use a barbell eventually.
Squats are the most important lift you can do. If you have access to a squat rack, I'd do barbell squats instead of leg extensions. Body weight squats are fine, but you'll make a lot more strength progress doing barbell squats.
Good form is important when the weights get heavy. Have someone watch you do the heavy lifts to make sure you're doing them right.
Good job getting started! Get strong, and be careful!0 -
I guess all along I was doing OHP wrong - I was really doing a push press or something. So tonight I did this for my strong lifts:
Deads 90lbs 5*5
OHP 50lb 5*5, 2*3 (I kept my feet glued to the floor the whole time but I could only do 3 reps on the last 2 sets.)
Tris 25lb 5*5
Bis 25lb on each arm 5*5
Pushups 3*10 (knees on floor)
Quads (Leg extension i think) on gym set (I think the weight is set around 100lbs - its not marked so don't know) 5*5
What do you heavy lifters think of this? I really just started out couple months ago but Im getting more education on how I should be doing things. My goal is just to lower body fat and become lean looking. Fit back into prepreg clothes.... Currently 25% BF. Eating at a 500cal deficit 7 days a week since April 1st. CW is 150-155lbs. Heigh 5'9". 31 years old. I also play badminton once a week and do 2-3 walks with the baby in the stroller.
Any advice peeps?
Thanks
Overall it looks pretty good, personally the only suggestions I would make:
1. Do you do this same routine each time in the gym, or is there a "B" routine where you do squats and back exercises? That's important because it's gong to affect my comments, so please confirm.
1. Get rid of the bicep and tricep curls for now. Instead of doing these, just add an extra set of pushups (for your triceps) and do some back work (which will hit your biceps anyway)
2. You really some type of back exercise in there, or preferably 2 of them. If your gym has an assisted pullup machine, use it. If it doesn't then you need to do some form of a bent over row, or a 1 arm row. You can youtube videos of these.
3. I would also get rid of the leg extensions. You need to do squats. If you already do squats on a different day, just do lunges instead of leg extensions.0 -
Skip the biceps and triceps for now, focus on the compounds, and look up Rippetoe teaching videos on the big 4's (deadlift, squat, OHP and bench) on Youtube to make sure your form is solid. There's a Youtube video by Pendlay on Pendlay rows if you care to look. Mehdi's videos are pretty decent but he's no Rippetoe of course.
However, if your gym has a rowing machine, maybe try that over Pendlays (for the sake of your lower back mostly as bent-over barbell rows can be hard on the lower back, especially if that's a trouble area for you). Or do pull-ups instead.
Stay with the lower weights until your form is good, then start adding weights and keep going up every week by about 5-10 pounds on the lower body lifts and about 2.5-5 pounds (if there's fractional weights available) on the upper body lifts.
If your gym has a squat rack, skip the leg extensions and do squats instead. Start at 45 lbs (lower if you need to) and work your way up from there. Think compound, and don't waste your time and energy on isolation lifts. Use dumbbells if there is no squat rack. Squats are lot more beneficial than leg extensions, and you'll get a lot more bang for your buck. And at that point don't worry about the squat challenge (unless you want do, of course ... I like mixing things up and warm up with overhead squats, but to each their own).
There's also no need to go beyond 5x5 on any of the lifts, so the 2x3 could have been easily skipped. I never do more than 5x5 for any of them, but 3x5 at a minimum with at least 1x5 at my highest weight for the day/week (I do a staggered 5x5 rather than an across-the-board one).
You're not doing Stronglifts but that's okay because 5x5 is a traditional format that will take you a long way as long as you progressively add weight to the bar.
Just my 2 cents for what those are worth to you.0 -
I would do one of two things. I would either pick up a copy of New Rules of Lifting for Women and follow that program. Or, I would concentrate almost entirely on compound lifts. Squats, deads, OHP, bench, rows. You don't have to follow Stronglifts, but it's a good program in terms of the exercises you are supposed to do.
Agree with making sure your form is good before moving up, and then adding 5-10 lbs when you want to increase weight.
Just keep at it and you will lift heavier.0 -
I guess they only back exercise im doing is the bar rows. I do have a rower on my universal gym set though. And when Im done of the 30 day squat challenge, I am going to start doing front barbell squats at 50lbs. I want nice arms, thats why ive been doing the tris and bis - why shouldn't i be doing them yet?0
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It's not that they're bad; it's that rows, bench, OHP, even the deads some will help you accomplish the same thing.0
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I guess they only back exercise im doing is the bar rows. I do have a rower on my universal gym set though. And when Im done of the 30 day squat challenge, I am going to start doing front barbell squats at 50lbs. I want nice arms, thats why ive been doing the tris and bis - why shouldn't i be doing them yet?
Because deadlifts, bench presses and overhead presses work your biceps/triceps already, and quite thoroughly so.
Doing curls and triceps extension isn't wrong or anything, just don't let them hurt your progress with the main lifts. Make the big compounds your priority/focus and treat the other stuff as optional. Except for rows/pulls which in the scheme of things should have a higher priority than any isolation moves, so skip the bi/tri work before you skip those.0 -
Can I do bench press right on the floor? I don't have a weight bench. All I got is a universal gym set (lats,press,curlbench,leg extenstion, row, pulldown - i think thats it) and I have the following free weights:
2*10lb dumbbells
2*25lb dumbbell
For the bar:
4*5lbs
4*10lbs
2*25lbs0 -
I put my profile pic of my universal gym set so yas would know what Im talking about. Lol. Don't know all the gym lingo so....0
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I don't see anything wrong with ur workout, keep it up...0
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I guess all along I was doing OHP wrong - I was really doing a push press or something. So tonight I did this for my strong lifts:
Deads 90lbs 5*5
OHP 50lb 5*5, 2*3 (I kept my feet glued to the floor the whole time but I could only do 3 reps on the last 2 sets.)
Tris 25lb 5*5
Bis 25lb on each arm 5*5
Pushups 3*10 (knees on floor)
Quads (Leg extension i think) on gym set (I think the weight is set around 100lbs - its not marked so don't know) 5*5
What do you heavy lifters think of this? I really just started out couple months ago but Im getting more education on how I should be doing things. My goal is just to lower body fat and become lean looking. Fit back into prepreg clothes.... Currently 25% BF. Eating at a 500cal deficit 7 days a week since April 1st. CW is 150-155lbs. Heigh 5'9". 31 years old. I also play badminton once a week and do 2-3 walks with the baby in the stroller.
Any advice peeps?
Thanks0 -
I put my profile pic of my universal gym set so yas would know what Im talking about. Lol. Don't know all the gym lingo so....
Got ya.
If you don't have a bench, then push-ups will do.
Alternately you could do hack squats, goblet squats and so forth with dumbbells if you want to add resistance to your squats.
Have a look here:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/902569-barbell-routines-when-you-only-have-dumbbells
You could consider selling your universal gym at some point and replacing it with a power cage, along with a bench, bar and plates, but that's up to you of course. For now I'd focus making the most out of what you have and getting creative. Use that gym and those dumbbells to your advantage and to their max potential if that's what you have to work with right now.
Also, maybe check into dumbbell/barbell complexes for cardio/interval goodness.
Like so:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/lift-to-burn-4-barbell-complexes-scorch-fat-increase-strength.html
New Rules of Lifting for Women has a lot of dumbbell alternatives/approximations to traditional barbell moves. Or just check the Interwebs if you'd rather not spend the money on that book. Obvously 110 (plus whatever your bar weighs) is going to be your max for deadlifts so you're going to have to get creative with them at some point and check into deadlift variations.
Check into power cleans also (Rippetoe has those on Youtube), they're quite fun and a nice compound/explosive exercise you can alternate with deadlifts, where your 110 lb (plus the bar) limit will go a long way to keep you busy for a good while.0 -
I can't tell for sure, but you might be able to do a bench press type exercise with your universal gym. Can you sit on the seat and push those U-shaped arms forward away from your chest? If you can, that'll work as a bench press alternative.0
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Also, there is an MFP group about stronglifts for women that you might want to look into.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/4601-stronglifts-5x5-for-women0 -
Can I do bench press right on the floor? I don't have a weight bench.0
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you can also do split squats instead of using a squat rack.
the weight is half what it would be for a standard squat,
so it's much easier to put it on your shoulders. or can be done
with dumb bells if you don't have a barbell yet,
but try to get one soon, you balance will be much better,
even if it's just the standard bar.0 -
you can also do split squats instead of using a squat rack.
the weight is half what it would be for a standard squat,
so it's much easier to put it on your shoulders. or can be done
with dumb bells if you don't have a barbell yet,
but try to get one soon, you balance will be much better,
even if it's just the standard bar.
I have a barbell and I will NEVER be putting that barbell behind my neck!!! LOL. Can't handle it - it's only front squats for me! I had a c1 fracture 7 years ago. Neck and upperback never the same....0 -
What you have will work fine. It looks like pushups are your finishing move. Are you doing them close or wide? The closer you go the more you engage your triceps. The suggestions above are all valid ideas but at some point you'll plateau and that's when I would incorporate these changes. You have what appears to be a solid routine and you're not looking for bulk so stick with it for now. Dumbbells are better as they engage more muscle fibers since you "control" the weight as well as lift. Barbells are good too but I would do them after a few months or so, and they are more specific, meaning they'll build more definition than you can with dumbbells.0
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New Weight Program Mon Wed and Fri (Tuesday are badminton, 2-3 other days are walks with the baby!!!)
Work Out A
Tri/Lat Pulldowns
Bentover Rows
Pectoral Fly
Deadlifts
FrontBar Squats
Lunges with dumbbells
Core on floor - 2 exercises of choice
WorkOutB
Reverse Fly
Pushups
Deadlifts
OHP
FrontBar Squats
Core on floor - 2 exercises of choice0 -
Can I do bench press right on the floor? I don't have a weight bench.
you can actually. but it's called a floor press and is typically an assistance exercise for bench press. Triceps predominantly.0 -
I tend to think in terms of large muscle groups and build my program from there. Legs, Chest, Back, Arms and Abs.
Research shows that when you think and concentrate on the muscle expanding and contracting during the exercise the overall progress is best.
If you check around the web most beginning lifters programs recommend a 3 day per week full body work out as you have. The theory is to introduce the full body and CNS (central nervous system) to the stress so it can grow with the muscles as well.
Bent over rows and dead lifts have issues with form that can put far too much stress on the back if done wrong. If your budget is tight try bodybuilding.com for technique, exercise and even programs is good but vast. http://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/finder/lookup/
For more technique(dead lift especially) go to youtube. You'll find tons of info there. Don't just watch the first one you see and follow.
Not sure where you get 5x5. 3x8/12 is more beginner focused. 5x5 is more High Intensity Training.0 -
New Weight Program Mon Wed and Fri (Tuesday are badminton, 2-3 other days are walks with the baby!!!)
Work Out A
Tri/Lat Pulldowns
Bentover Rows
Pectoral Fly
Deadlifts
FrontBar Squats
Lunges with dumbbells
Core on floor - 2 exercises of choice
WorkOutB
Reverse Fly
Pushups
Deadlifts
OHP
FrontBar Squats
Core on floor - 2 exercises of choice
Looks like a good mix of things. Let us know how it works for you!0 -
Oh ya, and Im doing the 30 day Squat Challenge with no weights.
ooh whats that?0 -
Oh ya, and Im doing the 30 day Squat Challenge with no weights.
ooh whats that?
Just google it and it will come up and give u a list of 30 days with how many squats to do on each day.0 -
Forgot to include BENCH PRESS!!!!!
New Weight Program Mon Wed and Fri (Tuesday are badminton, 2-3 other days are walks with the baby!!!)
Work Out A
Tri/Lat Pulldowns
Bentover Rows
Pectoral Fly
Deadlifts
FrontBar Squats
Lunges with dumbbells
Core on floor - 2 exercises of choice
WorkOutB
Reverse Fly
Pushups
Deadlifts
OHP
FrontBar Squats
Bench Press on gym set
Core on floor - 2 exercises of choice0
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