Maximuscle Lean Definition Promax diet
SupernovaLeon
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So after seeing minimal results working out (cardio only) I decided to try out a protein supplement aimed at losing weight rather than mass muscle gain.
Maximuscle seemed like the best product on the market to address my needs and goals so I got myself the tub of chocolate flavoured lean definition protein shake as well as their Thermobol capsules, both enriched with green tea extracts and high protein.
Anyone have any good (or back) experiences with these products?
Considering trying their promax lean chocolate bars too.
Maximuscle seemed like the best product on the market to address my needs and goals so I got myself the tub of chocolate flavoured lean definition protein shake as well as their Thermobol capsules, both enriched with green tea extracts and high protein.
Anyone have any good (or back) experiences with these products?
Considering trying their promax lean chocolate bars too.
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What made you think Maximuscle is the best brand on the market? a) it's not and b) it's overpriced.
Yes, high protein diets (1g per lb of lean body mass minimum) are helpful at preserving muscle mass when combined with a structured weight training programme with progressive overload.
Read http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/912920-in-place-of-a-road-map-3-20130 -
I couldn't actually find another product that assisted with weight loss (with CLA and green tea) as well as promote lean muscle.What made you think Maximuscle is the best brand on the market? a) it's not and b) it's overpriced.
Yes, high protein diets (1g per lb of lean body mass minimum) are helpful at preserving muscle mass when combined with a structured weight training programme with progressive overload.
Read http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/912920-in-place-of-a-road-map-3-2013
There are plenty of bulking protein products out there but that isn't my aim.
I do agree they were slightly overpriced, so I'm always looking for deals on Amazon, eBay etc.
And Maximuscle is more easily accessible to the public, it was the only option at my local Morrisons supermarket which is what prompted me to go ahead with the purchase. But further research I haven't come across any equal or more beneficial products.0 -
What alternatives do you guys use?0
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It's a protein powder. It's not magic. PIck one you like for taste and basic nutrition content and use it to fill in the gaps when you need a bit more protein. That said, you should be getting the vast majority of your nutrition from real food. And if you want to preserve lean body mass while you lose, you absolutely should be strength training.0
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If you are eating at a deficit you aren't going to gain muscle mass. You have to be eating at a calorie surplus to build/gain new muscle. So, pick a protein powder that you like and fits in your calorie goals.0
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Well, this thread in no way seems like a stealthily placed ad for the product, does it?0
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Lololol. Thanks for the heads up. I'm not going to try a product that uses these marketing techniques.0
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I'd rather eat a chicken's terd then force a Maximuscle product down my throat.0
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Bud, losing weight is all about the diet... Cardio helps yes, but as long as your diet is in check you shouldn't need to worry taking gimmicky things
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mmm, I'm using the myprotein brand. I've used some of the maximuscle bars but I'm not overly fond of them. They're a last resort when i forgot to take my MRP to work with me
I use the myprotein REcovery XS after an intense workout and use the Diet & weightloss MRP when I'm at work because on a 14 hour shift I used to snack on utter crap & I don't have time to sit and eat a proper meal. It helps me. But i really think it's all a case of personal preference. Just find what works for you. 0 -
More strength - less cardio.
Small calorie deficit. If you want long-term real results, it doesn't happen overnight, and you shouldn't 'diet'.
Eat real food, and only use protein shakes/bars as extras, rather than meal replacements. If you eat meat and fish you shouldn't have an issue getting enough protein.
Why are you picking 'diet' protein supplements?
MyProtein High Pro bars are tasty and good in sugar/carbs - 29g protein per bar.
However, I am yet to find a powder that tastes good. I've heard good things about The Protein Works which I will try next.0 -
If you're in the UK, I can solidly recommend myprotein. Loads cheaper than stuff like maximuscle and does the same thing. After all it's just protein at the end of the day. Without stuff like green tea, cla's, etc added to protein powders you still get lean. It's just a reduction of bf% and retention of existing LBM after all and you achieve that by a) lifting heavy *kitten* and b) being in a calorie deficit. There's no magic pill that will make it happen for you I'm afraid, just good old fashioned hard work, discipline and time.
Anyway, back to saving you money: I bulk buy the bags because pound for pound it's cheaper and if you spend over a certain amount postage is free. Works out much cheaper in the long run. I'm sure there are similar non-UK based alternatives if you're elsewhere - but other peeps will have to chime in with those.....0 -
Well, this thread in no way seems like a stealthily placed ad for the product, does it?
*smh* damnit Dav! You are right. Totally went over my head0 -
I couldn't actually find another product that assisted with weight loss (with CLA and green tea) as well as promote lean muscle.
Where do you find this stuff? I've never seen it anywhere. If it promotes lean muscle I'm interested. If it's long lean muscle I'm definitely going to need to find it. That's my goal. Long lean muscle.0 -
The OP reads like a copy and paste from a bad flash site homepage.
No thanks.0 -
The OP reads like a copy and paste from a bad flash site homepage.
No thanks.
But it promotes lean muscle. How can you just unilaterally discard something that promotes LEAN muscle? I mean if it was fatty muscle or some other type of muscle I could understand. But isn't it worth giving it a try for LEAN muscle?0 -
The OP reads like a copy and paste from a bad flash site homepage.
No thanks.
But it promotes lean muscle. How can you just unilaterally discard something that promotes LEAN muscle? I mean if it was fatty muscle or some other type of muscle I could understand. But isn't it worth giving it a try for LEAN muscle?
Not sure now if you're trolling or an advertisement?0 -
Why does it HAVE to be one of those? Can't someone just be genuinely interested in a new way to build lean muscle?The OP reads like a copy and paste from a bad flash site homepage.
No thanks.
But it promotes lean muscle. How can you just unilaterally discard something that promotes LEAN muscle? I mean if it was fatty muscle or some other type of muscle I could understand. But isn't it worth giving it a try for LEAN muscle?
Not sure now if you're trolling or an advertisement?
I've never even heard of the stuff but I know that after reading the very obviously unbiased opinion of the OP I will be searching high and low until I can find it. I've consumed a number of different protein powders over the years but I've never seen one that has promised the results this one does. How can that be wrong?0 -
Why does it HAVE to be one of those? Can't someone just be genuinely interested in a new way to build lean muscle?The OP reads like a copy and paste from a bad flash site homepage.
No thanks.
But it promotes lean muscle. How can you just unilaterally discard something that promotes LEAN muscle? I mean if it was fatty muscle or some other type of muscle I could understand. But isn't it worth giving it a try for LEAN muscle?
Not sure now if you're trolling or an advertisement?
I've never even heard of the stuff but I know that after reading the very obviously unbiased opinion of the OP I will be searching high and low until I can find it. I've consumed a number of different protein powders over the years but I've never seen one that has promised the results this one does. How can that be wrong?
Blimey! If the OP wasn't an advert, I'm pretty sure this one is...
Plus, lol @ fatty muscle. Muscle is muscle, fat is fat. They're two different types of tissue. So called "Lean" muscle is just muscle on a body with a low bf%, that's all. Doesn't require a magic potion...... now, if you'll excuse me, I'm just off to build some fatty muscle.....0 -
I couldn't actually find another product that assisted with weight loss (with CLA and green tea) as well as promote lean muscle.What made you think Maximuscle is the best brand on the market? a) it's not and b) it's overpriced.
Yes, high protein diets (1g per lb of lean body mass minimum) are helpful at preserving muscle mass when combined with a structured weight training programme with progressive overload.
Read http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/912920-in-place-of-a-road-map-3-2013
There are plenty of bulking protein products out there but that isn't my aim.
I do agree they were slightly overpriced, so I'm always looking for deals on Amazon, eBay etc.
And Maximuscle is more easily accessible to the public, it was the only option at my local Morrisons supermarket which is what prompted me to go ahead with the purchase. But further research I haven't come across any equal or more beneficial products.
Dude, you SERIOUSLY need to learn about supplements because right now it sounds like you don't know jack sht. Just because a product says "mass gainer" doesn't mean you're going to look like a bodybuilder after a month.
Read the ingredients. Promax Diet is protein, bit of carbs, and "fat loss" supps like CLA and green tea and all that bullsht. You think CLA and green tea extract actually work better that a solid nutrition plan and strength training programme with progressive overload? Horse sht. All the studies on CLA were done on rats, and all the studies on green tea showed minimal calorie burn - about 50 calories per day. The companies can use these studies and say "Look here! Look at what we found, rats lost fat on CLA, so humans can too, and burning calories leads to fat loss, and green tea burns calories so therefore it burns fat!"
Supplement companies have deals in place with supermarkets. PhD is sold at Tesco and not Sainsbury's for example. Maximuscle is probably one of Europe's most popular brands because
1) they spent a lot on advertising,
2) have celebs promoting it, eg Amir Khan, McLaren F1, lots of university sports teams and
3) more importantly because new gym users like yourself think they are buying the best product on the market, because of 1 and 2.
Simple business. Simple promotions. Simple marketing. I've worked in promotions and marketing, it's some of the easiest work to do, when the company has the resources to do so. If you buy a latte, you think Starbucks. But what makes Starbucks BETTER than any other coffee shop? There is no answer because the question is misleading. Starbucks isn't better than any other coffee shop, it's equally as good and equally as bad. But more people go there because they think it's better and it has more advertising.
Back to supps. A specific product help with anything A protein powder is just protein. The macronutrient protein, when combined with (as above) a solid nutrition plan and strength training programme with progressive overload helps with weight loss and preserving lean muscle.
CONSIDER:
If you f up your nutrition and training and turn into a lazy coach potato but CONTINUE to take Promax diet, do you think you'll retain all your muscle and still lose weight? NO.
If you stick to your nutrition and training and turn into an dedicated, hard-working and consistent individual, but STOP taking Promax diet, do you think you'll retain all your muscle and still lose weight? YES.
So, what's the answer? Read the thread I posted above and adjust your nutrition goals according to the thread I linked and train hard.
If you are sincerely interested in supplements and you honestly would like to know more, then for now the only things you need to read are these two articles.
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/supplements-part-1.html
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/supplements-part-2.html
This applies for the general population, people who want to improve health/performance, amateur/semi/pro athletes, bodybuilders, fitness models, powerlifters etc
If you cant be bothered, then I'd recommend as a baseline
Fish oils (at least 1-2g a day)
Multivitamin (at least 1 a day)
Possibly Vitamin D because you like in the UK (1000-2000 IU a day)
Protein powder (if you can't get 1g per lb of lean body mass as a minimum from whole foods)
To those who have recommended myprotein, I agree. Online retailers are generally cheaper and are equally as good in terms of quality. I actually prefer bulkpowders.co.uk because their customer service is top notch, compared to the bs of myprotein.0 -
this reads like spam.0
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I couldn't actually find another product that assisted with weight loss (with CLA and green tea) as well as promote lean muscle.What made you think Maximuscle is the best brand on the market? a) it's not and b) it's overpriced.
Yes, high protein diets (1g per lb of lean body mass minimum) are helpful at preserving muscle mass when combined with a structured weight training programme with progressive overload.
Read http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/912920-in-place-of-a-road-map-3-2013
There are plenty of bulking protein products out there but that isn't my aim.
I do agree they were slightly overpriced, so I'm always looking for deals on Amazon, eBay etc.
And Maximuscle is more easily accessible to the public, it was the only option at my local Morrisons supermarket which is what prompted me to go ahead with the purchase. But further research I haven't come across any equal or more beneficial products.
Dude, you SERIOUSLY need to learn about supplements because right now it sounds like you don't know jack sht. Just because a product says "mass gainer" doesn't mean you're going to look like a bodybuilder after a month.
Read the ingredients. Promax Diet is protein, bit of carbs, and "fat loss" supps like CLA and green tea and all that bullsht. You think CLA and green tea extract actually work better that a solid nutrition plan and strength training programme with progressive overload? Horse sht. All the studies on CLA were done on rats, and all the studies on green tea showed minimal calorie burn - about 50 calories per day. The companies can use these studies and say "Look here! Look at what we found, rats lost fat on CLA, so humans can too, and burning calories leads to fat loss, and green tea burns calories so therefore it burns fat!"
Supplement companies have deals in place with supermarkets. PhD is sold at Tesco and not Sainsbury's for example. Maximuscle is probably one of Europe's most popular brands because
1) they spent a lot on advertising,
2) have celebs promoting it, eg Amir Khan, McLaren F1, lots of university sports teams and
3) more importantly because new gym users like yourself think they are buying the best product on the market, because of 1 and 2.
Simple business. Simple promotions. Simple marketing. I've worked in promotions and marketing, it's some of the easiest work to do, when the company has the resources to do so. If you buy a latte, you think Starbucks. But what makes Starbucks BETTER than any other coffee shop? There is no answer because the question is misleading. Starbucks isn't better than any other coffee shop, it's equally as good and equally as bad. But more people go there because they think it's better and it has more advertising.
Back to supps. A specific product help with anything A protein powder is just protein. The macronutrient protein, when combined with (as above) a solid nutrition plan and strength training programme with progressive overload helps with weight loss and preserving lean muscle.
CONSIDER:
If you f up your nutrition and training and turn into a lazy coach potato but CONTINUE to take Promax diet, do you think you'll retain all your muscle and still lose weight? NO.
If you stick to your nutrition and training and turn into an dedicated, hard-working and consistent individual, but STOP taking Promax diet, do you think you'll retain all your muscle and still lose weight? YES.
So, what's the answer? Read the thread I posted above and adjust your nutrition goals according to the thread I linked and train hard.
If you are sincerely interested in supplements and you honestly would like to know more, then for now the only things you need to read are these two articles.
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/supplements-part-1.html
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/supplements-part-2.html
This applies for the general population, people who want to improve health/performance, amateur/semi/pro athletes, bodybuilders, fitness models, powerlifters etc
If you cant be bothered, then I'd recommend as a baseline
Fish oils (at least 1-2g a day)
Multivitamin (at least 1 a day)
Possibly Vitamin D because you like in the UK (1000-2000 IU a day)
Protein powder (if you can't get 1g per lb of lean body mass as a minimum from whole foods)
To those who have recommended myprotein, I agree. Online retailers are generally cheaper and are equally as good in terms of quality. I actually prefer bulkpowders.co.uk because their customer service is top notch, compared to the bs of myprotein.
Wow. TL:DR except you seem way too wound up about a simple protein powder.
Chill out, drink some green tea. Could be your problem is pent up rage being stored in your muscle tissue preventing them from becoming lean. Unrequited angst will kill your gains, bro.0 -
I couldn't actually find another product that assisted with weight loss (with CLA and green tea) as well as promote lean muscle.What made you think Maximuscle is the best brand on the market? a) it's not and b) it's overpriced.
Yes, high protein diets (1g per lb of lean body mass minimum) are helpful at preserving muscle mass when combined with a structured weight training programme with progressive overload.
Read http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/912920-in-place-of-a-road-map-3-2013
There are plenty of bulking protein products out there but that isn't my aim.
I do agree they were slightly overpriced, so I'm always looking for deals on Amazon, eBay etc.
And Maximuscle is more easily accessible to the public, it was the only option at my local Morrisons supermarket which is what prompted me to go ahead with the purchase. But further research I haven't come across any equal or more beneficial products.
Dude, you SERIOUSLY need to learn about supplements because right now it sounds like you don't know jack sht. Just because a product says "mass gainer" doesn't mean you're going to look like a bodybuilder after a month.
Read the ingredients. Promax Diet is protein, bit of carbs, and "fat loss" supps like CLA and green tea and all that bullsht. You think CLA and green tea extract actually work better that a solid nutrition plan and strength training programme with progressive overload? Horse sht. All the studies on CLA were done on rats, and all the studies on green tea showed minimal calorie burn - about 50 calories per day. The companies can use these studies and say "Look here! Look at what we found, rats lost fat on CLA, so humans can too, and burning calories leads to fat loss, and green tea burns calories so therefore it burns fat!"
Supplement companies have deals in place with supermarkets. PhD is sold at Tesco and not Sainsbury's for example. Maximuscle is probably one of Europe's most popular brands because
1) they spent a lot on advertising,
2) have celebs promoting it, eg Amir Khan, McLaren F1, lots of university sports teams and
3) more importantly because new gym users like yourself think they are buying the best product on the market, because of 1 and 2.
Simple business. Simple promotions. Simple marketing. I've worked in promotions and marketing, it's some of the easiest work to do, when the company has the resources to do so. If you buy a latte, you think Starbucks. But what makes Starbucks BETTER than any other coffee shop? There is no answer because the question is misleading. Starbucks isn't better than any other coffee shop, it's equally as good and equally as bad. But more people go there because they think it's better and it has more advertising.
Back to supps. A specific product help with anything A protein powder is just protein. The macronutrient protein, when combined with (as above) a solid nutrition plan and strength training programme with progressive overload helps with weight loss and preserving lean muscle.
CONSIDER:
If you f up your nutrition and training and turn into a lazy coach potato but CONTINUE to take Promax diet, do you think you'll retain all your muscle and still lose weight? NO.
If you stick to your nutrition and training and turn into an dedicated, hard-working and consistent individual, but STOP taking Promax diet, do you think you'll retain all your muscle and still lose weight? YES.
So, what's the answer? Read the thread I posted above and adjust your nutrition goals according to the thread I linked and train hard.
If you are sincerely interested in supplements and you honestly would like to know more, then for now the only things you need to read are these two articles.
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/supplements-part-1.html
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/muscle-gain/supplements-part-2.html
This applies for the general population, people who want to improve health/performance, amateur/semi/pro athletes, bodybuilders, fitness models, powerlifters etc
If you cant be bothered, then I'd recommend as a baseline
Fish oils (at least 1-2g a day)
Multivitamin (at least 1 a day)
Possibly Vitamin D because you like in the UK (1000-2000 IU a day)
Protein powder (if you can't get 1g per lb of lean body mass as a minimum from whole foods)
To those who have recommended myprotein, I agree. Online retailers are generally cheaper and are equally as good in terms of quality. I actually prefer bulkpowders.co.uk because their customer service is top notch, compared to the bs of myprotein.
Wow. TL:DR except you seem way too wound up about a simple protein powder.
Chill out, drink some green tea. Could be your problem is pent up rage being stored in your muscle tissue preventing them from becoming lean. Unrequited angst will kill your gains, bro.
Summary
Protein powders are supplements. Its supplements for a protein deficiency in your diet. Protein powders do not make you gain mass nor loss weight; respective, a calorie surplus or deficit does. You also build new lean tissue through a good progressive weight training program while eating in a surplus. You can get there from real food for powders.
I like designer whey, EAS, muscle milk, body fortress or GNC ON, they delicious and cheap. You don't need to spend tons of money on supplements to see results.0 -
Looking back on it I guess this does look suspect haha but sorry to burst the bubble, this is just the first protein supplement I've used in my life hence why I asked you guys for any suggestible alternatives.mmm, I'm using the myprotein brand. I've used some of the maximuscle bars but I'm not overly fond of them. They're a last resort when i forgot to take my MRP to work with me I use the myprotein REcovery XS after an intense workout and use the Diet & weightloss MRP when I'm at work because on a 14 hour shift I used to snack on utter crap & I don't have time to sit and eat a proper meal. It helps me. But i really think it's all a case of personal preference. Just find what works for you.
I haven't tried the bars yet, interesting in giving them a go though.Bud, losing weight is all about the diet... Cardio helps yes, but as long as your diet is in check you shouldn't need to worry taking gimmicky things
Thanks mate, I'm a little cardio obsessed lately. If I eat even one calorie over my daily allowance I end up stressing over doing enough cardio to compensate.If you are eating at a deficit you aren't going to gain muscle mass. You have to be eating at a calorie surplus to build/gain new muscle. So, pick a protein powder that you like and fits in your calorie goals.
Interesting, thanks for the infoIt's a protein powder. It's not magic. PIck one you like for taste and basic nutrition content and use it to fill in the gaps when you need a bit more protein. That said, you should be getting the vast majority of your nutrition from real food. And if you want to preserve lean body mass while you lose, you absolutely should be strength training.
I'm working on it bud. limited to what I can do at home, need to join a gym and have someone show me some benching techniques since I've never done it before.If you're in the UK, I can solidly recommend myprotein. Loads cheaper than stuff like maximuscle and does the same thing. After all it's just protein at the end of the day. Without stuff like green tea, cla's, etc added to protein powders you still get lean. It's just a reduction of bf% and retention of existing LBM after all and you achieve that by a) lifting heavy *kitten* and b) being in a calorie deficit. There's no magic pill that will make it happen for you I'm afraid, just good old fashioned hard work, discipline and time.
Anyway, back to saving you money: I bulk buy the bags because pound for pound it's cheaper and if you spend over a certain amount postage is free. Works out much cheaper in the long run. I'm sure there are similar non-UK based alternatives if you're elsewhere - but other peeps will have to chime in with those.....
Thanks bud. Always helpful to have someone from the UK give advice as you know what products are available here 0 -
I'd be embarrassed as an owner of this company just with the name of the product......hilarious.....I'm surprised the word turbo wasn't used somewhere.0
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I use Cytosport 100% Whey Protein powder, from the makers of Muscle Milk. Mixes very well and the chocolate is quite tasty. I also take a Green Coffee Bean extract with Raspberry Ketones. I have been consistently losing weight and am now starting to lift some. Hope this helps, Good Luck0
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So after seeing minimal results working out (cardio only) I decided to try out a protein supplement aimed at losing weight rather than mass muscle gain.
Maximuscle seemed like the best product on the market to address my needs and goals so I got myself the tub of chocolate flavoured lean definition protein shake as well as their Thermobol capsules, both enriched with green tea extracts and high protein.
Anyone have any good (or back) experiences with these products?
Considering trying their promax lean chocolate bars too.
I tried Maximuscles diet whey and didnt notice that much results in all honesty.
My uncle an ex bodybuilder then told me to try Phd Nutrition Diet Whey which I found so much better.
I do know a work colleague that has lost a lot of weight using Pro Elite diet whey with their CLA and Green Tea brand, he used to buy a 2.25KG tub with 90 CLA softgels and 120 Green Tea Extract tablets which cost under £50 online which is really cheap.
That's all the help I can really give you regarding diet whey, but I advise you stay away from Maximuscle, Phd Nutrition is so much better.
Good luck with your goals 0 -
Thanks for that mate, I actually just bought myself a tub of 90 CLA capsules tooSo after seeing minimal results working out (cardio only) I decided to try out a protein supplement aimed at losing weight rather than mass muscle gain.
Maximuscle seemed like the best product on the market to address my needs and goals so I got myself the tub of chocolate flavoured lean definition protein shake as well as their Thermobol capsules, both enriched with green tea extracts and high protein.
Anyone have any good (or back) experiences with these products?
Considering trying their promax lean chocolate bars too.
I tried Maximuscles diet whey and didnt notice that much results in all honesty.
My uncle an ex bodybuilder then told me to try Phd Nutrition Diet Whey which I found so much better.
I do know a work colleague that has lost a lot of weight using Pro Elite diet whey with their CLA and Green Tea brand, he used to buy a 2.25KG tub with 90 CLA softgels and 120 Green Tea Extract tablets which cost under £50 online which is really cheap.
That's all the help I can really give you regarding diet whey, but I advise you stay away from Maximuscle, Phd Nutrition is so much better.
Good luck with your goals 0 -
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Thanks for that mate, I actually just bought myself a tub of 90 CLA capsules too
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I use them myself mate, I just use Phd diet whey instead of the Pro Elite one
But my work colleague did lose a lot of weight using the pro elite shake, hope all goes well for you 0 -
Thanks for that mate, I actually just bought myself a tub of 90 CLA capsules too
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I use them myself mate, I just use Phd diet whey instead of the Pro Elite one
But my work colleague did lose a lot of weight using the pro elite shake, hope all goes well for you
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Thanks bud hope you reach your goals too
At least I know of someone else in the UK i can ask for advice on these things 0
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