Inner beauty vs. outward appearances

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  • mank32
    mank32 Posts: 1,323 Member
    once i started feeling better about myself internally, i guess i started acting better because i started getting noticed for my external appearance WAY more. nothing really changed about my appearance, just the way i carry myself. so the inner has influenced the outer in a measurably positive way.

    conversely, getting noticed for the external has had a bit of an effect on me internally, although not nearly as much.

    mostly i just want to feel so good about myself internally that it does not matter how i think i look externally. like, if i didn't even think about how i look at all, that would be awesome. i think it's attainable: i just have to make all the awesomest choices in terms of eating, exercise, attitude, lifestyle in general, etc. and things will line up inside and out.

    i do like to look awesome, but i don't get too hung up on it. i'd much rather feel awesome about myself. i enjoy it when others think i look awesome, but i'd much rather be appreciated for internal awesomeness. i'm pretty comfortable with myself inside and out, within the context of understanding that i will always strive to improve myself...
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,993 Member
    She can have inner beauty and great character, but if she can't make a sammich............................


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    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
  • kennethmgreen
    kennethmgreen Posts: 1,759 Member
    It's funny to think of character and beauty in mutually exclusive ideas. I think the two concepts are intertwined more than we'd like. The "ugly person with a heart of gold" mythology is born from our idea of justice and fair play, as is the "beautiful person who is heartless" or even the "beautiful prince/princess who must learn character through some challenge later in life." We want stuff to even out.

    It's likely someone who is physically ugly had to deal with more challenges that those more attractive, and somehow developed a deeper sense of inner beauty. It's also likely that same person became a bitter recluse, never developing any character at all. And whose only meaning is derived from waxing philosophical on fitness forums.

    I used to think the idea of women radiating during pregnancy was bunk sold to the masses to increase Hallmark card sales. Until I watched two co-workers at a school I worked at years ago noticeably change. Two different women, two different times - I asked them if they got their hair cut, new glasses, etc. I stopped short of exclaiming "you look more beautiful than I remember seeing you" because that would be kinda creepy, and weird in front of a bunch of six-year-olds. I found out later both women were pregnant and were really happy about it.

    I know there are hormonal changes that go on with pregnancy, and there are physical, biological things going on (lots of crazy stuff too) that could be attributed to the change. But I believe a lot of the beauty I saw was contentment, hope, joy, excitement of being a mom - especially a first-time mom. Those inward emotions had a physical affect on the outward appearance.

    My point? Ladies, go get knocked up to look hotter.

    My serious point is that character contributes to beauty. And I think the idea of pitting inward vs. outward beauty against each other (or a necessary trade-off) is counterproductive. Confidence, kindness, patience, a love and appreciation of self - these are character traits - "inner beauty" that contribute to "outer beauty" in ways that make-up, nice clothes and boob jobs can't. And I'm not saying that make-up, nice clothes and boob jobs can't contribute to beauty. I'm simply saying that as there are a multitude of ways to define beauty, there are a multitude of ways to achieve it.
  • imchicbad
    imchicbad Posts: 1,650 Member
    I take what I want, use what I need, and keep what I find.
  • wolfpack77
    wolfpack77 Posts: 655
    I take what I want, use what I need, and keep what I find.

    Ahh, a fellow psychopath. Hows it going? :bigsmile:
  • kddarrow
    kddarrow Posts: 24
    I'm pretty sure there's a lot more to life than being really, really, ridiculously good looking. And I plan on finding out what that is.


    Ha!!! Best reply so far.....Looovveeee it!!!!:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    i agree with a lot of the posts, but who actually chats up ugly people on the basis that they might have a really good personality!?
  • harvo
    harvo Posts: 4,676 Member
    My Grandpa used to tell me "Beauty is skin deep...but ugly is to the bone!"
  • Junken_Diraffe
    Junken_Diraffe Posts: 716 Member
    It's funny to think of character and beauty in mutually exclusive ideas. I think the two concepts are intertwined more than we'd like. The "ugly person with a heart of gold" mythology is born from our idea of justice and fair play, as is the "beautiful person who is heartless" or even the "beautiful prince/princess who must learn character through some challenge later in life." We want stuff to even out.

    It's likely someone who is physically ugly had to deal with more challenges that those more attractive, and somehow developed a deeper sense of inner beauty. It's also likely that same person became a bitter recluse, never developing any character at all. And whose only meaning is derived from waxing philosophical on fitness forums.

    I used to think the idea of women radiating during pregnancy was bunk sold to the masses to increase Hallmark card sales. Until I watched two co-workers at a school I worked at years ago noticeably change. Two different women, two different times - I asked them if they got their hair cut, new glasses, etc. I stopped short of exclaiming "you look more beautiful than I remember seeing you" because that would be kinda creepy, and weird in front of a bunch of six-year-olds. I found out later both women were pregnant and were really happy about it.

    I know there are hormonal changes that go on with pregnancy, and there are physical, biological things going on (lots of crazy stuff too) that could be attributed to the change. But I believe a lot of the beauty I saw was contentment, hope, joy, excitement of being a mom - especially a first-time mom. Those inward emotions had a physical affect on the outward appearance.

    My point? Ladies, go get knocked up to look hotter.

    My serious point is that character contributes to beauty. And I think the idea of pitting inward vs. outward beauty against each other (or a necessary trade-off) is counterproductive. Confidence, kindness, patience, a love and appreciation of self - these are character traits - "inner beauty" that contribute to "outer beauty" in ways that make-up, nice clothes and boob jobs can't. And I'm not saying that make-up, nice clothes and boob jobs can't contribute to beauty. I'm simply saying that as there are a multitude of ways to define beauty, there are a multitude of ways to achieve it.

    Yet another perfect response, Ken.
  • MiloBloom83
    MiloBloom83 Posts: 2,724 Member
    You become friends with somebody who's inner beauty you appreciate
    You lust after somebody who's outward appearances you like
    You love somebody who you appreciate inside and out.

    The man is a genius! Hi taunto.
  • iulia_maddie
    iulia_maddie Posts: 2,780 Member
    Sure, I'd like to date someone attractive. Would I date someone attractive with a crappy personality? No.
    Would I date someone less attractive who is great all around otherwise? Yes, but this may be a copout, because once I get to know someone who is smart, kind, funny and so forth, they become attractive to me.
    As for myself, I'd like the outsides to match the insides.
  • Liatush
    Liatush Posts: 627 Member
    I have to say that when I crush, it's often based on character (if he is kind and makes me laugh, I won't stop thinking of him). Outer apperance is definitely secondary to me (unless he is really unattractive and then his personality is just beyond what my eye can spot).
  • BarbellApprentice
    BarbellApprentice Posts: 486 Member
    Inner beauty. I feel like if I had a better character, I wouldn't care so much about outward appearances. And I wouldn't be interested in guys who put a priority on that. Plus, looks fade with age anyway.

    ^THIS
  • fitfreakymom
    fitfreakymom Posts: 1,400 Member
    I want it all:bigsmile:
  • catrinaHwechanged
    catrinaHwechanged Posts: 4,907 Member
    I take what I want, use what I need, and keep what I find.

    Ahh, a fellow psychopath. Hows it going? :bigsmile:

    You mean sociopath?? :laugh:
  • Mustang_Susie
    Mustang_Susie Posts: 7,045 Member
    i agree with a lot of the posts, but who actually chats up ugly people on the basis that they might have a really good personality!?

    I do. At my job. I'm a nurse in a nursing home.
    The bodies may be old, saggy, worn out and broken but the wisdom in their minds and the kindness in their hearts is pricelss.
  • Mustang_Susie
    Mustang_Susie Posts: 7,045 Member
    My Grandpa used to tell me "Beauty is skin deep...but ugly is to the bone!"

    Yep :happy:
  • JessieJanie
    JessieJanie Posts: 428
    “That's always seemed so ridiculous to me, that people want to be around someone because they're pretty. It's like picking your breakfeast cereals based on color instead of taste.”
    ― John Green, Paper Towns
  • _Xtine
    _Xtine Posts: 97 Member
    Until I lose the weight I'm going with inner beauty. ;)
  • Mustang_Susie
    Mustang_Susie Posts: 7,045 Member
    Until I lose the weight I'm going with inner beauty. ;)

    I think I'll always be working on my character.
    To me, it's almost like the physical is easier to change...
  • MyChocolateDiet
    MyChocolateDiet Posts: 22,281 Member
    character for both.

    i sometimes go out of the house looking like hell if it means getting things done that I feel are my role and should not be squelched on.

    case in point today, i went out without combing my hair and in sweats intended for a workout, when i felt it necessary to do some important other task that I couldn't in good conscience ignore. If i'd taken the time to go home and change and curl my hair, it would have seemed like bad form to me. I hold others to the same standard. Or you're out of my circle. The end.
  • BinaryPulsar
    BinaryPulsar Posts: 8,927 Member
    Character in myself and others is much more important. But, I also think it shows through on the outside in one way or another. I'm not picky about outward appearance. But, I do care about maintaining my outward appearance as well. Probably because I think other people will care more about that and will be influenced by that in first impressions. But, also because I am a dancer, so people look at me on stage.
  • BinaryPulsar
    BinaryPulsar Posts: 8,927 Member
    character for both.

    i sometimes go out of the house looking like hell if it means getting things done that I feel are my role and should not be squelched on.

    case in point today, i went out without combing my hair and in sweats intended for a workout, when i felt it necessary to do some important other task that I couldn't in good conscience ignore. If i'd taken the time to go home and change and curl my hair, it would have seemed like bad form to me. I hold others to the same standard. Or you're out of my circle. The end.

    There are some days I am in my sweats all day long. I commute in the morning to go dance, then I eat lunch, then go to the gym to workout, then run errands, then pick up my kids from school (I will change before picking my kids up, if there is time).
  • Mustang_Susie
    Mustang_Susie Posts: 7,045 Member
    character for both.

    i sometimes go out of the house looking like hell if it means getting things done that I feel are my role and should not be squelched on.

    case in point today, i went out without combing my hair and in sweats intended for a workout, when i felt it necessary to do some important other task that I couldn't in good conscience ignore. If i'd taken the time to go home and change and curl my hair, it would have seemed like bad form to me. I hold others to the same standard. Or you're out of my circle. The end.

    There are some days I am in my sweats all day long. I commute in the morning to go dance, then I eat lunch, then go to the gym to workout, then run errands, then pick up my kids from school (I will change before picking my kids up, if there is time).

    I feel much less pressure and find it easier when I'm going to work out etc. and I have the "excuse" of being in sweats with my hair up in a pony tail. Then I feel like I'm "allowed" to look that way and I don't need to worry about how I look...
  • Sharkington
    Sharkington Posts: 485
    Inner beauty. I feel like if I had a better character, I wouldn't care so much about outward appearances. And I wouldn't be interested in guys who put a priority on that.

    I think this is a very good way to look at it and made me rethink my own thoughts on the matter.
  • 37434958
    37434958 Posts: 457 Member
    Both!
  • lachesissss
    lachesissss Posts: 1,298 Member
    I'm strong on the inside, and I want to be strong (and fast) on the outside.
  • dmpizza
    dmpizza Posts: 3,321 Member
    In the end character wins.
    Some DJ once said, "look at that model, some guy, somewhere is sick of her"
  • BeachIron
    BeachIron Posts: 6,490 Member
    As long as she melts in my mouth AND in my hands, I'm good
  • oregonzoo
    oregonzoo Posts: 4,251 Member
    character for both.

    i sometimes go out of the house looking like hell if it means getting things done that I feel are my role and should not be squelched on.

    case in point today, i went out without combing my hair and in sweats intended for a workout, when i felt it necessary to do some important other task that I couldn't in good conscience ignore. If i'd taken the time to go home and change and curl my hair, it would have seemed like bad form to me. I hold others to the same standard. Or you're out of my circle. The end.
    This is fantastic.