Ladies who have/are currently detoxing help please

andieellengreen
andieellengreen Posts: 65 Member
So ladies I am going on holiday a week on Monday I am wondering if any of you have done a detox for 7days and what the results were and what detox it was? Would like to loose as much as I can in the 7days. Thanks :)
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  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
    This is a bad idea. It's unsafe, not needed, and any weight loss you achieve will be put back on within a couple days of eating food again.

    Good luck.
  • Iron_Feline
    Iron_Feline Posts: 10,750 Member
    All you will lose is water weight, which you will put back on the minute you eat real food again - spend your time shopping for a flattering swim suit instead.

    7 days is not enough time to lose any significant permanent weight safely or healthily.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,432 MFP Moderator
    Detoxing is completely unnecessary and only eliminates water weight. If you have 7 days, just go low carb for a week where you max out carbs around 100g or a little less. This will in turn store less water and give you temporary weight loss.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    1) detoxes are unecessary

    2) severely restricting your eating and then going on vacation where food and drink will probably be in abundance sounds like a recipe for binging and putting all the weight back on and then some.
  • purpleipod
    purpleipod Posts: 1,147 Member
    Why not just lose weight like a normal person and not resort to extremes to lose a lot of weight in just 7 days because of a vacation? You obviously know how, you've lost 19 pounds.
  • andieellengreen
    andieellengreen Posts: 65 Member
    With my 1200 calorie goal from here I am averaging at around 4 - 5 pound loss per week this detox is literally only to loose weight fast I fully understand I will put it back on and I'm not too bothered about that, I have lost 19 pounds in total already and was hoping if I detoxed that I would only put back that detox weight back on plus maybe a couple of pounds extra? But I'm not sure as iv never done one b 4?
  • andieellengreen
    andieellengreen Posts: 65 Member
    I apologise as well as I do realise I sound like a quick fix person which I am not i am happy to do slow weight loss and I am happy with that I have also heard that detoxing is good for some parts of the body to "flush the system out" and such? I'm only curious about this and not saying I'm defiantly going to do it I just wanted to hear from people who have done them and what they thought to them.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,432 MFP Moderator
    I apologise as well as I do realise I sound like a quick fix person which I am not i am happy to do slow weight loss and I am happy with that I have also heard that detoxing is good for some parts of the body to "flush the system out" and such? I'm only curious about this and not saying I'm defiantly going to do it I just wanted to hear from people who have done them and what they thought to them.

    If you want a quick water fix, that is on you, as we can not stop you but 90% of this forum are against it because we know it's a marketing scheme. But detoxes do not clean anything out. Your liver has that job. Like I stated, you can get a similar reaction from low carb and high fiber. You will poop a lot but you won't starve yourself. Also, someone with 20 lbs to lose, should be aiming for 1 lb per week.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    You will just sacrifice a bunch of muscle and organ mass. It will be damaging to your metabolism and it will put a great deal of stress on your body, contributing to potential health problems like blood pressure and fatigue.

    It's a stupid thing to do. You won't lose any significant amount of fat.
  • Iron_Feline
    Iron_Feline Posts: 10,750 Member
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/851582-master-cleanse-aka-lemonade-diet-my-30-day-story

    This is an excellent thread by someone who has done the master cleanse.

    There is nothing to flush out - your liver and kidneys do this already. Do not fall for the snake oil salesman.

    Also 4-5lbs a week is a very high rate of weight loss - you may well be losing muscle along with the fat.

    Please read this thread

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/952996-level-obstacles-lose-weight-target-fat-easy
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    With my 1200 calorie goal from here I am averaging at around 4 - 5 pound loss per week this detox is literally only to loose weight fast I fully understand I will put it back on and I'm not too bothered about that, I have lost 19 pounds in total already and was hoping if I detoxed that I would only put back that detox weight back on plus maybe a couple of pounds extra? But I'm not sure as iv never done one b 4?

    What are you going to do while on vacation? - you will put it all back on as soon as you eat normally as its water weight for the most part.
  • andieellengreen
    andieellengreen Posts: 65 Member
    I'm going to a place that my boyfriends family owns so they have bikes there and so I am hoping to do daily exercise while on holiday too and the pool for swimming and will set myself daily goals whilst on holiday
  • redraidergirl2009
    redraidergirl2009 Posts: 2,560 Member
    You don't need to detox if you have a healthy diet rich in nutrients. If you are having trouble getting in veggies or fiber consider making a green smoothie each day, you'll feel better. I use tea, ice, frozen fruit and a handful of greens and a teaspoon chia seeds in mine. Very tasty. You can also add in a bit of protein powder.
  • skinnytayy
    skinnytayy Posts: 459
    Why do you need to detox? You appear to be young so one could assume you have perfectly good, functioning kidneys and a liver. They'll do all the detoxing you need. Just eat healthy.
  • Mutant13
    Mutant13 Posts: 2,485 Member
    I had the shakes pretty bad and was convinced that Peter Dinklage was following me everywhere on a tiny giraffe.


    Oh you mean... Like juice and what have you. My bad.
  • DragonflyF15
    DragonflyF15 Posts: 437 Member
    I guess it depends on what you mean by detox. I do a 3 day reboot every season just to get me recommitted to a healthier lifestyle. I cut out dairy, meats, breads, pastas and grains. So that leaves just veggies, fruits, seeds, beans, legumes and nuts. And lots of water, more than my usual 8glasses a day, more like 12. During this time I go for walks, do more yoga and spend more time kinda just chilling. I kinda call it my 3 day spa. I usually feel rejuvenated, more energetic, sleep better, and usually more focus on goals in life, health and etc. I try to eat healthy, but usually by 3 months, little by little, junkie foods get a bit more common than I would like so it's just kinda a nice reset to do. Oh, and I'm still getting my calories in. You may lose some weight, but it will come back...however if it's a healthy reboot, it really does get out the gunk and even when you put on the weight, you feel lighter, less bloaty, less tummy issues and the like. Just my two cents.
  • rebelate
    rebelate Posts: 218 Member
    With my 1200 calorie goal from here I am averaging at around 4 - 5 pound loss per week this detox is literally only to loose weight fast I fully understand I will put it back on and I'm not too bothered about that, I have lost 19 pounds in total already and was hoping if I detoxed that I would only put back that detox weight back on plus maybe a couple of pounds extra? But I'm not sure as iv never done one b 4?

    I would say that "loosing" 4-5 PER WEEK is pretty fast. I don't understand this number fixation. Your body isn't going to magically become what you want it to be in a week.


    Why do you want to hit that weight by vacation, just say to say you were at that weight when you went on vacation?
  • Mtleiker
    Mtleiker Posts: 160
    I apologise as well as I do realise I sound like a quick fix person which I am not i am happy to do slow weight loss and I am happy with that I have also heard that detoxing is good for some parts of the body to "flush the system out" and such? I'm only curious about this and not saying I'm defiantly going to do it I just wanted to hear from people who have done them and what they thought to them.
    SO DETOX.... NOT NECESSARILY A BAD THING. SHOOT ME . BUT I GUESS IT COULD BE.IM ON A 1 MONTH BOTTLE OF BELLA VI INSANE AMPED WHICH IS AN ALL NATURAL HERBAL DIET PILL THAT OFFERS DETOXING PROPERTIES. IM NOT SURE IF ITS THE QUICK FIX U WANT. ITS REALLY HELPED ME DETOX AND REGULATE MY METABOLISM. BUUUUT ITS NOT AS INTENSE OF A DETOX AS THOSE ONES YOU DRINK TO POOP ALL DAY THE NEXT DAY. BUT FOR THE FIRST FEW DAYS WHEN I DID POTTY IT WAS SEMI SOLID AND QUITE A BIT. THT LASTED 3-4 DAYS AND I WASN'T BLOATED ANYMORE. ITS AN ALL NATURAL DIET SUPPLEMENT THAT OFFERS A SMALL AMOUNT OF DETOXING PROPERTIES. I HAVE A BAD METABOLISM AND RARELY USED THE BATHROOM BUT MAYBE TWICE A WEEK. DRS PRESCRIBED ME LAXATIVES ALL THE TIME WHICH I HATED TAKING AND NEVER WORKED. NOW I HAVE A GREAT METABOLISM MY BOWEL MOVEMENTS ARE SOOO REGULAR( WHICH I'VE NEVER HAD IN MY LIFE) I GO ONCE OR TWICE A DAY. I NOTICED ITS TWICE ON DAYS WHEN I EAT A LOT OF JUNK RATHER THAN A LOT OF GOOD STUFF. I LOST 10 POUNDS WITH THESE PILLS BUT KEEP IN MIND I EAT WELL AND WORKOUT WELL. I NEVER TRIED THOSE OTHER DETOXES . THIS WAS MY FIRST ONE. I LOST FIVE POUNDS THE FIRST WEEK AND A HALF, WATER WEIGHT OR NOT I LOST 3 INCHES AND I KEPT UP WITH IT. SO FAR I'VE LOST ABOUT 7 INCHES ON IT . I EAT HEALTHY , WORKOUT , WEIGHT TRAIN AND IM IN GREAT HEALTH WITH GREAT BLOOD PRESSURE AND DOIN BETTER THEN EVER IN MY LIFE. IT GAVE ME THE BOOST AND CLEANSE I NEEDED. YOU CAN GOOGLE IT. ITS NOT THAT POPULAR BUT IT IS ON LINE. IT WAS 30 BUCKS
  • Mtleiker
    Mtleiker Posts: 160
    With my 1200 calorie goal from here I am averaging at around 4 - 5 pound loss per week this detox is literally only to loose weight fast I fully understand I will put it back on and I'm not too bothered about that, I have lost 19 pounds in total already and was hoping if I detoxed that I would only put back that detox weight back on plus maybe a couple of pounds extra? But I'm not sure as iv never done one b 4?

    I would say that "loosing" 4-5 PER WEEK is pretty fast. I don't understand this number fixation. Your body isn't going to magically become what you want it to be in a week.


    Why do you want to hit that weight by vacation, just say to say you were at that weight when you went on vacation?
    WOW SHE'S SOO RIGHT. THATS AN AWESOME WEIGHT LOSS. ONE THAT A LOOOT OF PEOPLE CANT EVEN ACHIEVE. YOUR GET THE BODY YOU WANT , IT JUST TAKES TIME. SOME WOMEN ONLY LOSE TEN POUNDS IN TWO MONTHS BUT THE TRANSFORMATIONS ARE UNBELIEVABLE!! THERES A FORUM ON HERE WITH PICS OF IT. CHECK EM OUT THEY'RE SOO INSPIRING
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,338 Member
    With my 1200 calorie goal from here I am averaging at around 4 - 5 pound loss per week this detox is literally only to loose weight fast I fully understand I will put it back on and I'm not too bothered about that, I have lost 19 pounds in total already and was hoping if I detoxed that I would only put back that detox weight back on plus maybe a couple of pounds extra? But I'm not sure as iv never done one b 4?

    I would say that "loosing" 4-5 PER WEEK is pretty fast. I don't understand this number fixation. Your body isn't going to magically become what you want it to be in a week.


    Why do you want to hit that weight by vacation, just say to say you were at that weight when you went on vacation?
    WOW SHE'S SOO RIGHT. THATS AN AWESOME WEIGHT LOSS. ONE THAT A LOOOT OF PEOPLE CANT EVEN ACHIEVE. YOUR GET THE BODY YOU WANT , IT JUST TAKES TIME. SOME WOMEN ONLY LOSE TEN POUNDS IN TWO MONTHS BUT THE TRANSFORMATIONS ARE UNBELIEVABLE!! THERES A FORUM ON HERE WITH PICS OF IT. CHECK EM OUT THEY'RE SOO INSPIRING
    Don't go tho Vegas:wink: .....just saying.
  • ggxx100
    ggxx100 Posts: 520 Member
    A pound is not just a pound..

    A detox can help you shed 10 pounds fast..10 pounds of water weight, that is.

    They also don't do your metabolism any favors. In my most fanatical diet/detox days, I was around my highest weight, since the weight loss isn't maintainable. Form sustainable healthy habits and keep the weight off!
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,061 Member
    Forget the detox. Just cut off a limb. That weight will be gone permanently at least.:laugh:

    Really, even if you were 10lbs lighter in a week from water weight loss, you wouldn't look any different.

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  • nicoleashley_24
    nicoleashley_24 Posts: 144 Member
    I like detoxing occasionally but not for weight loss, more as a... well, a detox. I've done up to ten days before and honestly, if you're looking for weight loss, there's better ways to do it. If I were you I would add in a few extra workouts and lower your carbs, sodium, and sugar. Also, adding resistance training will really help your body feel good when you go on vacation.
  • quirkytizzy
    quirkytizzy Posts: 4,052 Member
    SHOOT ME .

    Uhm, I won't shoot you, but I will ask why you're yelling?
  • Mutant13
    Mutant13 Posts: 2,485 Member
    I apologise as well as I do realise I sound like a quick fix person which I am not i am happy to do slow weight loss and I am happy with that I have also heard that detoxing is good for some parts of the body to "flush the system out" and such? I'm only curious about this and not saying I'm defiantly going to do it I just wanted to hear from people who have done them and what they thought to them.
    SO DETOX.... NOT NECESSARILY A BAD THING. SHOOT ME . BUT I GUESS IT COULD BE.IM ON A 1 MONTH BOTTLE OF BELLA VI INSANE AMPED WHICH IS AN ALL NATURAL HERBAL DIET PILL THAT OFFERS DETOXING PROPERTIES. IM NOT SURE IF ITS THE QUICK FIX U WANT. ITS REALLY HELPED ME DETOX AND REGULATE MY METABOLISM. BUUUUT ITS NOT AS INTENSE OF A DETOX AS THOSE ONES YOU DRINK TO POOP ALL DAY THE NEXT DAY. BUT FOR THE FIRST FEW DAYS WHEN I DID POTTY IT WAS SEMI SOLID AND QUITE A BIT. THT LASTED 3-4 DAYS AND I WASN'T BLOATED ANYMORE. ITS AN ALL NATURAL DIET SUPPLEMENT THAT OFFERS A SMALL AMOUNT OF DETOXING PROPERTIES. I HAVE A BAD METABOLISM AND RARELY USED THE BATHROOM BUT MAYBE TWICE A WEEK. DRS PRESCRIBED ME LAXATIVES ALL THE TIME WHICH I HATED TAKING AND NEVER WORKED. NOW I HAVE A GREAT METABOLISM MY BOWEL MOVEMENTS ARE SOOO REGULAR( WHICH I'VE NEVER HAD IN MY LIFE) I GO ONCE OR TWICE A DAY. I NOTICED ITS TWICE ON DAYS WHEN I EAT A LOT OF JUNK RATHER THAN A LOT OF GOOD STUFF. I LOST 10 POUNDS WITH THESE PILLS BUT KEEP IN MIND I EAT WELL AND WORKOUT WELL. I NEVER TRIED THOSE OTHER DETOXES . THIS WAS MY FIRST ONE. I LOST FIVE POUNDS THE FIRST WEEK AND A HALF, WATER WEIGHT OR NOT I LOST 3 INCHES AND I KEPT UP WITH IT. SO FAR I'VE LOST ABOUT 7 INCHES ON IT . I EAT HEALTHY , WORKOUT , WEIGHT TRAIN AND IM IN GREAT HEALTH WITH GREAT BLOOD PRESSURE AND DOIN BETTER THEN EVER IN MY LIFE. IT GAVE ME THE BOOST AND CLEANSE I NEEDED. YOU CAN GOOGLE IT. ITS NOT THAT POPULAR BUT IT IS ON LINE. IT WAS 30 BUCKS

    LOUD NOISES!

    In her own words ladies and gentlemen. ^ This ^ is what happens when you buy pills from the Internet
  • SenseiCole
    SenseiCole Posts: 429 Member
    why are people shouting?
  • hellokittymaui
    hellokittymaui Posts: 226 Member
    You could go on one of those "detoxes" where you just drink those juice/vegetable drinks (as long as you have one of those blenders/food processors that you can macerates the veggies and not just juices them and spits out the pulp). Doing that for a week probably won't hurt you, but you need to make sure you get enough protein.

    Whenever I have an event I have to fit into a tight cocktail dress for, I usually do the following the week before. (This is not much different than how I eat every day, but I just step it up a bit when I have to look extra nice):

    Cut my carbs as low as I can stand. I usually keep my carbs to 100 grams or less, but I try to cut that even more. (Watch your fruit intake as certain fruits are very high in carbs.)

    Eat lots of salads with lean protein.

    Keep my salt intake as low as possible.

    No alcohol.

    Drinks lots of water. *Not drinking enough water will make your body actually RETAIN water.

    I do extra cardio exercise. I cut back on the weight training as lifting heavy makes me retain water. I do more reps but with lighter weights. (This seems to work for me.)

    **I just did this the other week for a big fancy fundraising gala we went to and I felt wonderful, had a nice flat tummy and turned many heads in my very fitted cocktail dress. {blush}
  • Mtleiker
    Mtleiker Posts: 160
    I apologise as well as I do realise I sound like a quick fix person which I am not i am happy to do slow weight loss and I am happy with that I have also heard that detoxing is good for some parts of the body to "flush the system out" and such? I'm only curious about this and not saying I'm defiantly going to do it I just wanted to hear from people who have done them and what they thought to them.
    SO DETOX.... NOT NECESSARILY A BAD THING. SHOOT ME . BUT I GUESS IT COULD BE.IM ON A 1 MONTH BOTTLE OF BELLA VI INSANE AMPED WHICH IS AN ALL NATURAL HERBAL DIET PILL THAT OFFERS DETOXING PROPERTIES. IM NOT SURE IF ITS THE QUICK FIX U WANT. ITS REALLY HELPED ME DETOX AND REGULATE MY METABOLISM. BUUUUT ITS NOT AS INTENSE OF A DETOX AS THOSE ONES YOU DRINK TO POOP ALL DAY THE NEXT DAY. BUT FOR THE FIRST FEW DAYS WHEN I DID POTTY IT WAS SEMI SOLID AND QUITE A BIT. THT LASTED 3-4 DAYS AND I WASN'T BLOATED ANYMORE. ITS AN ALL NATURAL DIET SUPPLEMENT THAT OFFERS A SMALL AMOUNT OF DETOXING PROPERTIES. I HAVE A BAD METABOLISM AND RARELY USED THE BATHROOM BUT MAYBE TWICE A WEEK. DRS PRESCRIBED ME LAXATIVES ALL THE TIME WHICH I HATED TAKING AND NEVER WORKED. NOW I HAVE A GREAT METABOLISM MY BOWEL MOVEMENTS ARE SOOO REGULAR( WHICH I'VE NEVER HAD IN MY LIFE) I GO ONCE OR TWICE A DAY. I NOTICED ITS TWICE ON DAYS WHEN I EAT A LOT OF JUNK RATHER THAN A LOT OF GOOD STUFF. I LOST 10 POUNDS WITH THESE PILLS BUT KEEP IN MIND I EAT WELL AND WORKOUT WELL. I NEVER TRIED THOSE OTHER DETOXES . THIS WAS MY FIRST ONE. I LOST FIVE POUNDS THE FIRST WEEK AND A HALF, WATER WEIGHT OR NOT I LOST 3 INCHES AND I KEPT UP WITH IT. SO FAR I'VE LOST ABOUT 7 INCHES ON IT . I EAT HEALTHY , WORKOUT , WEIGHT TRAIN AND IM IN GREAT HEALTH WITH GREAT BLOOD PRESSURE AND DOIN BETTER THEN EVER IN MY LIFE. IT GAVE ME THE BOOST AND CLEANSE I NEEDED. YOU CAN GOOGLE IT. ITS NOT THAT POPULAR BUT IT IS ON LINE. IT WAS 30 BUCKS

    LOUD NOISES!

    In her own words ladies and gentlemen. ^ This ^ is what happens when you buy pills from the Internet
    AHEM I DIDNT BUY THEM ONLINE, JUST SAID THAT THEY ARE.THIS MONTH WAS MY FIRST AND LAST TIME DOING IT I JUST NEEDED A BOOST WHILE I TRAINED MY BODY TO BETTER HEALTH HABITS. DOESNT HURT MY FEELINGS THOUGH. IM DOING FANTASTIC :) .
  • quirkytizzy
    quirkytizzy Posts: 4,052 Member
    AHEM I DIDNT BUY THEM ONLINE, JUST SAID THAT THEY ARE.THIS MONTH WAS MY FIRST AND LAST TIME DOING IT I JUST NEEDED A BOOST WHILE I TRAINED MY BODY TO BETTER HEALTH HABITS. DOESNT HURT MY FEELINGS THOUGH. IM DOING FANTASTIC :) .

    SNAKE OIL DOESN'T CHANGE JUST BECAUSE YOU BOUGHT IT FROM A DIFFERENT SELLER. PERSON TO PERSON TRANSACTION, SUCH AS IN A GNC OR OTHER COMPARABLE DRUG STORE, DOES NOT MAGICALLY TURN PILLS INTO MIRACLES IN THE BODY.

    YOU WOULD BE BETTER OFF LEARNING A REASONABLE DIET WITHOUT USING EXPENSIVE CRUTCHES. YOU BUILD BETTER HABITS FASTER THAT WAY.
  • Mutant13
    Mutant13 Posts: 2,485 Member
    I apologise as well as I do realise I sound like a quick fix person which I am not i am happy to do slow weight loss and I am happy with that I have also heard that detoxing is good for some parts of the body to "flush the system out" and such? I'm only curious about this and not saying I'm defiantly going to do it I just wanted to hear from people who have done them and what they thought to them.
    SO DETOX.... NOT NECESSARILY A BAD THING. SHOOT ME . BUT I GUESS IT COULD BE.IM ON A 1 MONTH BOTTLE OF BELLA VI INSANE AMPED WHICH IS AN ALL NATURAL HERBAL DIET PILL THAT OFFERS DETOXING PROPERTIES. IM NOT SURE IF ITS THE QUICK FIX U WANT. ITS REALLY HELPED ME DETOX AND REGULATE MY METABOLISM. BUUUUT ITS NOT AS INTENSE OF A DETOX AS THOSE ONES YOU DRINK TO POOP ALL DAY THE NEXT DAY. BUT FOR THE FIRST FEW DAYS WHEN I DID POTTY IT WAS SEMI SOLID AND QUITE A BIT. THT LASTED 3-4 DAYS AND I WASN'T BLOATED ANYMORE. ITS AN ALL NATURAL DIET SUPPLEMENT THAT OFFERS A SMALL AMOUNT OF DETOXING PROPERTIES. I HAVE A BAD METABOLISM AND RARELY USED THE BATHROOM BUT MAYBE TWICE A WEEK. DRS PRESCRIBED ME LAXATIVES ALL THE TIME WHICH I HATED TAKING AND NEVER WORKED. NOW I HAVE A GREAT METABOLISM MY BOWEL MOVEMENTS ARE SOOO REGULAR( WHICH I'VE NEVER HAD IN MY LIFE) I GO ONCE OR TWICE A DAY. I NOTICED ITS TWICE ON DAYS WHEN I EAT A LOT OF JUNK RATHER THAN A LOT OF GOOD STUFF. I LOST 10 POUNDS WITH THESE PILLS BUT KEEP IN MIND I EAT WELL AND WORKOUT WELL. I NEVER TRIED THOSE OTHER DETOXES . THIS WAS MY FIRST ONE. I LOST FIVE POUNDS THE FIRST WEEK AND A HALF, WATER WEIGHT OR NOT I LOST 3 INCHES AND I KEPT UP WITH IT. SO FAR I'VE LOST ABOUT 7 INCHES ON IT . I EAT HEALTHY , WORKOUT , WEIGHT TRAIN AND IM IN GREAT HEALTH WITH GREAT BLOOD PRESSURE AND DOIN BETTER THEN EVER IN MY LIFE. IT GAVE ME THE BOOST AND CLEANSE I NEEDED. YOU CAN GOOGLE IT. ITS NOT THAT POPULAR BUT IT IS ON LINE. IT WAS 30 BUCKS

    LOUD NOISES!

    In her own words ladies and gentlemen. ^ This ^ is what happens when you buy pills from the Internet
    AHEM I DIDNT BUY THEM ONLINE, JUST SAID THAT THEY ARE.THIS MONTH WAS MY FIRST AND LAST TIME DOING IT I JUST NEEDED A BOOST WHILE I TRAINED MY BODY TO BETTER HEALTH HABITS. DOESNT HURT MY FEELINGS THOUGH. IM DOING FANTASTIC :) .

    I think they are cutting these pills with peyote
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