Will smoking be banned?

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  • Ramberta
    Ramberta Posts: 1,312 Member
    no. the government makes entirely too much money off of the taxes. and big tobacco has their hands in the pockets of several politicians.

    it's a shame marijuana farmers don't have the money to own a few congressmen....

    Pot will never be legal for 2 reasons:

    a) As much as hippies cry out that it will "be good for the economy", it makes FAR more money as a criminalized substance than it ever would legal, even if they taxed the hell out of it

    b) Legalizing marijuana would admit that the "War on Drugs" was a failure... and the government can never admit failure.
  • Ramberta
    Ramberta Posts: 1,312 Member
    I think its hilarious how so many Americans think that everything they don't like is 'communism' lol

    It's been a scare tactic for 60+ years and the right is still terribly misinformed about what it actually is.
    So anytime someone has a liberal idea thats new or progressive, they're a communist.

    QFT!

    But then again, I'm a goddamned socialist commie hippie. Or something. Because I actually have the nerve to want to help my fellow man, even if that means paying my hard-earned taxes (out of a minimum wage paycheck) to do so.
  • TylerJ76
    TylerJ76 Posts: 4,375 Member
    I have to ask (since I've been trying and trying to quit)... Why would you want to start back after not smoking for 18 years??


    its always easier to stop knowing that it is not forever.

    same with dieting i guess......its easier to stop eating ice cream, when i know that once i loose the weight, i can have some again.

    same concept

    Your logic amazes me.

    You can eat ice cream while you're dieting. If you can't learn to do anything within reason, then you will just put the weight that you lost, back on.
  • Lisa1971
    Lisa1971 Posts: 3,069 Member
    I doubt smoking will ever be illegal, although I wish it would! As a person with asthma, even being around cigarette smoke makes me sick.

    Agreed!
  • vim_n_vigor
    vim_n_vigor Posts: 4,089 Member
    If you are going to go 18 years without, why would you even consider starting again then? It just kind of seems like setting yourself up for complete failuer.
  • cuterbee
    cuterbee Posts: 545
    I think it's way more likely that marijuana will be legalized, actually. Prohibiting something you can grow in your backyard is kind of stupid*, in my opinion.


    *Edited to add: Many, if not most, politicians are, admittedly, fairly stupid.
  • no. the government makes entirely too much money off of the taxes. and big tobacco has their hands in the pockets of several politicians.

    it's a shame marijuana farmers don't have the money to own a few congressmen....

    Pot will never be legal for 2 reasons:

    a) As much as hippies cry out that it will "be good for the economy", it makes FAR more money as a criminalized substance than it ever would legal, even if they taxed the hell out of it

    b) Legalizing marijuana would admit that the "War on Drugs" was a failure... and the government can never admit failure.

    But... it is legal in certain areas already.
  • Ramberta
    Ramberta Posts: 1,312 Member
    no. the government makes entirely too much money off of the taxes. and big tobacco has their hands in the pockets of several politicians.

    it's a shame marijuana farmers don't have the money to own a few congressmen....

    Pot will never be legal for 2 reasons:

    a) As much as hippies cry out that it will "be good for the economy", it makes FAR more money as a criminalized substance than it ever would legal, even if they taxed the hell out of it

    b) Legalizing marijuana would admit that the "War on Drugs" was a failure... and the government can never admit failure.

    But... it is legal in certain areas already.

    At the State level, yes. But if it is taken to the Supreme Court and ruled unconstitutional (because the national laws still say it's illegal), it will be invalid. I'm talking about legalization on a national level.
  • tattygun
    tattygun Posts: 447 Member
    Please read Alan Carrs Easyway to Stop Smoking, it costs next to nothing and it'll banish any thoughts of looking forward to smoking.

    As for whether it'll be banned? No way, there's money in tobacco and money in people trying to quit tobacco (unless you stick it to em and read the book!)

    Again, PLEASE get the book, trust me!

    but i liked smoking.....i never had any negative outcomes from it. I dont want to be manipulated into doing something which i dont think is wrong....

    You're manipulated now. The book tackles that manipulation. You've 18 years to undo any 'manipulation' it might do, so what have you to lose by reading it?
    I haven't gone out if my way to recommend it because there's any personal gain for me, I genuinely care and I find it truely tragic people are still in the trap of tobacco.

    I'll say it again, you've nothing to lose....please read the book.
  • MelsAuntie
    MelsAuntie Posts: 2,833 Member
    No, the tobacco lobbies and alchohol lobbies will see to that. Besides everybody is entitled to engage in any self-destructive behavior they wish. I am glad public smoking is banned, as in restaurants, though.
  • sunshineblue1
    sunshineblue1 Posts: 60 Member
    the diet concept has helped me stop smoking for four years......i know eating ice cream can be done on a diet, but for some people....like myself, one scoop of ben and jerrys becomes half the tub.
    for those who cannot keep the moderation.....its best to avoid it altogether

    its the same with smoking....

    anyway....i asked whether it will one day be banned, in the next 18 years at least.......(no preaching about stopping smoking was asked for :) )
  • sunshineblue1
    sunshineblue1 Posts: 60 Member
    also if smoking is banned from shopping centres, hotels, bars, clubs, cinemas.....etc

    then wont it be banned from everywhere else? then where can people smoke?

    hovering behind the bike shed?
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    I think its hilarious how so many Americans think that everything they don't like is 'communism' lol

    It's been a scare tactic for 60+ years and the right is still terribly misinformed about what it actually is.
    So anytime someone has a liberal idea thats new or progressive, they're a communist.

    and fascist all at the same time...:laugh:
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,029 Member
    Though I find this post bizarre, I think as a country, our leaders are already dangerously flirting with communism honestly.
    One by one our rights to make decisions for ourselves are being stripped away
    Sorry, but smoking around others who don't want it around them isn't stripping your decision..............it's saving ours. Choose to smoke if you like, but do it around other smokers.


    And I used to smoke so it's not a biased decision.

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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,029 Member
    but i liked smoking.....i never had any negative outcomes from it. I dont want to be manipulated into doing something which i dont think is wrong....
    Trust that is DOES affect your air sacs making intake of oxygen less efficient. Also trust that has carcinogens in it. As a former smoker, I tried to justify my smoking with how fit I was against non smokers. While I may have been more fit, if compared to someone of the same caliber who didn't smoke, I got my *kitten* handed to me.

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  • Gwen7121
    Gwen7121 Posts: 126 Member

    BECAUSE IT TASTES SO GOOD

    yup

    I second that Yup.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,029 Member
    I think its hilarious how so many Americans think that everything they don't like is 'communism' lol

    And I think it's hilarious that people are so blind to see what's actually happening in America. Government is too big and too much into an individual person's business. If you don't believe we're headed for a Socialist society then good luck to ya.

    "A socialist economic system would consist of a system of production and distribution organized to directly satisfy economic demands and human needs, so that goods and services would be produced directly for use instead of for private profit[5] driven by the accumulation of capital. Accounting would be based on physical quantities, a common physical magnitude, or a direct measure of labour-time in place of financial calculation.[6][7] Distribution would be based on the principle to each according to his contribution."

    What's so bad about that?

    I think Americans are so brain washed into thinking "capitalism is the be all and end all!" when it really doesn't profit the middle and lower classes, aka 99.9% of us.

    I work in academia. Capitalism is teh suckz.

    also no, and no.
    While I'm not against someone making money, the problem lies with those who have money making the rules against those who don't. For every success story, you'll find 1,000 failures or hardships. I'd rather try to help the thousands than just one.

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  • Lisa1971
    Lisa1971 Posts: 3,069 Member
    Though I find this post bizarre, I think as a country, our leaders are already dangerously flirting with communism honestly.
    One by one our rights to make decisions for ourselves are being stripped away
    Sorry, but smoking around others who don't want it around them isn't stripping your decision..............it's saving ours. Choose to smoke if you like, but do it around other smokers.



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  • sizzle74
    sizzle74 Posts: 858 Member
    Hi there

    This is just a question i am putting out there- do u think all smoking will be banned in the future and ciggerates will be illegal?

    I am a non smoker of four years and my husband and me always said when we stopped smoking- it will not be forever. Once our youngest- who is ten weeks now- turns 18 and leaves home (at 18 hopefully)..then we wll start smoking again. It may be long way off- we are looking at 2031, but its still something we both look fwd to.


    However......the world is changing. do you think come 2031 ciggerates and alcohol will be contraband? that the world will be non smoking, non drinking .....that those who engage in 'sinful acts' will be outcasted?

    do you think we will reach a stage where those who smoke will be incarcerated?

    do you think everyone will be eating healthy food, taking regular exercise and we will be in the 'ideal state' where there wont be room for outcasts who like to light up?

    I have to ask (since I've been trying and trying to quit)... Why would you want to start back after not smoking for 18 years??

    BECAUSE IT TASTES SO GOOD

    Yes it does. Mmmmmm.....come tongue me after you smoke that cig. Soooo sexy. :huh:
  • JusticeGirl25
    JusticeGirl25 Posts: 703 Member
    I highly doubt smoking will be banned. Too much of a legal and constitutional rights issue for that to happen.

    Now I wouldn't have a problem with a smoking ban at all because a) I don't smoke and b) the smoking ban inside bars and restaurants here in Lincoln is the greatest thing ever.
  • Jersey_Devil
    Jersey_Devil Posts: 4,142 Member
    Rod Serling called... he wants his script back.
  • yo_andi
    yo_andi Posts: 2,178 Member
    exactly! one by one those who smoke/drink are being frowned upon by self righteous people who think they are better ......and eventually, i think these things will be banned.

    As an ex-smoker I will self-righteously frown upon your desire to start smoking again. That is so bizarre.
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,228 Member
    Nah!

    The govt learned their lesson with prohibition. I'm willing to bet marijuana will be legal by then, actually.

    And ciggarettes will cost around $20 a pack.
  • Lupercalia
    Lupercalia Posts: 1,857 Member
    What a bizarre thread! Love it! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
  • JustJennie1
    JustJennie1 Posts: 3,749 Member
    While I'm not against someone making money, the problem lies with those who have money making the rules against those who don't. For every success story, you'll find 1,000 failures or hardships. I'd rather try to help the thousands than just one.

    What rules and who's making them?
  • TheRoadDog
    TheRoadDog Posts: 11,788 Member
    Go ahead and try to take that cigar from my right hand while simultaneously ducking my left hook.
  • MadeOfMagic
    MadeOfMagic Posts: 525 Member
    Everyone would live longer if they did make it illegal, which the government and doctors wouldn't be happy about, they want you to be sick that is why cigarettes and alcohol are legal but marijuana isn't. Cigarettes and alcohol are greatest source of population control and provides billions of dollars to doctors/insurance companies/major companies/etc. I wish it would be banned because we would have less pollution and I wouldn't be exposed to all this second hand smoke, and I would have few more relatives around if it wasn't for the smocking habits. But to each their own, it will never be illegal, not in our life time at least.
  • eric_sg61
    eric_sg61 Posts: 2,925 Member
    Everyone would live longer if they did make it illegal, which the government and doctors wouldn't be happy about, they want you to be sick that is why cigarettes and alcohol are legal but marijuana isn't. Cigarettes and alcohol are greatest source of population control and provides billions of dollars to doctors/insurance companies/major companies/etc. I wish it would be banned because we would have less pollution and I wouldn't be exposed to all this second hand smoke, and I would have few more relatives around if it wasn't for the smocking habits. But to each their own, it will never be illegal, not in our life time at least.
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  • MadeOfMagic
    MadeOfMagic Posts: 525 Member
    Please read Alan Carrs Easyway to Stop Smoking, it costs next to nothing and it'll banish any thoughts of looking forward to smoking.

    As for whether it'll be banned? No way, there's money in tobacco and money in people trying to quit tobacco (unless you stick it to em and read the book!)

    Again, PLEASE get the book, trust me!

    but i liked smoking.....i never had any negative outcomes from it. I dont want to be manipulated into doing something which i dont think is wrong....

    You won't like it when health problems start to set it, you should feel blessed that child came into your life who will spare you years of your life. Sure there is few rare cases of smockers who live long, but most people don't, just look at how many people die every year from smocking and how many diseases are directly related to smocking, I have lost family members to it and my dad is fighting for his life right now because of cancer he got because of decades of smocking, he quit 15 years ago but is just now paying for it. There is nothing "wrong" with smocking, other than the damage it does to your body.
  • likearadiowave
    likearadiowave Posts: 445 Member
    Hi there

    This is just a question i am putting out there- do u think all smoking will be banned in the future and ciggerates will be illegal?

    I am a non smoker of four years and my husband and me always said when we stopped smoking- it will not be forever. Once our youngest- who is ten weeks now- turns 18 and leaves home (at 18 hopefully)..then we wll start smoking again. It may be long way off- we are looking at 2031, but its still something we both look fwd to.


    However......the world is changing. do you think come 2031 ciggerates and alcohol will be contraband? that the world will be non smoking, non drinking .....that those who engage in 'sinful acts' will be outcasted?

    do you think we will reach a stage where those who smoke will be incarcerated?

    do you think everyone will be eating healthy food, taking regular exercise and we will be in the 'ideal state' where there wont be room for outcasts who like to light up?

    Where is this utopia and how can I get there
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