IPOARM- Stupid to follow?

This is summary and outline of IPOARM(In Place Of A Road Map Version 3)

1. Calories
Calories are a unit of measurement. How an inches measure distance, pounds measure weight, calories measure energy.

2. Weight loss
Your body uses calories every second of the day; this is energy you’re burning. If you eat eat the amount of calories your body burns you will maintain your weight. If you eat less than your body burns there is not enough energy to support your weight so your body has to shrink (lose weight). If you eat more than what you’re burning your body will store it. You will weigh more.
To lose weight you must burn more than you consume.(Take note how it says nothing about food choices, it’s about calories).

3. TDEE(Total Daily Energy Expenditure)
This is how many calories you burn per day. If you eat at your TDEE you will maintain weight, you won’t gain or lose.

4. BMR(Basal Metabolic Rate)
This is your BASE metabolic rate, this means this is the bare minimum of your metabolic rate. This is what you would burn if you where in a coma.

5. Body Fat %
This is just the percentage of fat on your body. If you weigh 200lbs and have 100lbs of fat, you have 50% body fat. Pretty simple.

6. Eat at a moderate deficit.
1. Moderate Deficit(fat loss)
2. Large Deficit(stall out/muscle mass loss)
3. Starvation (Mostly muscle mass loss, some fat) This is usually defined of a diet around 800 calories a day.

7. Setting everything up.
1. Determine Body fat %.
Know your body fat %, you need a tape measurement for this. If you don’t have a tape measure, skips this part(go to step 2). It’s recommended to know it because your calculations would be more accurate. Go to: http://www.fat2fitradio.com/tools/mbf/ obviously enter your data.

2. Calculate your BMR
Go to: http://www.fat2fitradio.com/tools/bmr/ then enter your data, where it says “Enter Goal Weight” enter your current weight. On the next page it will show 2 BMR calculations.


If you entered your body fat, use the “Katch-McArdle Forumla” as your BMR. If you didn’t enter your body fat use the use the “Harris-Benedict Formula” as your BMR. If you’re using the “Harris-Benedict Formula” Your TDEE will be displayed under “daily calories” skip to step 4(calculate a deficit) if you’re using the “katch-McArdle Formula” continue to step 3.

3. Calculate your TDEE(if you’re using Katch-McArdle Formula)
Multiply your BMR by one of the numbers below based on your activity level.

Sedentary = BMR X 1.2 (little or no exercise, desk job)
Lightly active = BMR X 1.375 (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/wk)
Mod. active = BMR X 1.55 (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/wk)
Very active = BMR X 1.725 (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days/wk)
Extr. Active = BMR X 1.9 (hard daily exercise/sports & physical job or 2X day training, i.e marathon, contest etc.)

4. Calculate a deficit
Remember if you don’t eat enough you will stall out and risk losing muscle mass. Most people recommend eating at minimum your BMR and lower than TDEE.
If you know your bodyfat go by this chart.

Men Categories
Category 1: less than 15% body fat.

 Category 2: 16-25% body fat 

Category 3: 26 > body fat 



Women Categories

Category 1: Less than 24% body fat. 

Category 2: 25-35% body fat 

Category 3: 35% > body fat.

If you don’t know your body fat go by this chart
Category 1: Less than 15lbs to lose.
Category 2: 15 -30 lbs to lose.
Category 3: 30+ lbs to lose.

Below is the formula to calculate your deficit.
Category 1 = multiply TDEE by .90
Category 2 = multiply TDEE by .85
Category 3 = multiply TDEE by .80

8. Macro nutrient intake

Priorities:
• Hit your calorie goal
• Hit your protein goal
• Hit your fat goal
• Hit your carb goal

9. Macro nutrient intake
I’ll just make it simple, use the excel sheet, it will calculate things out for you. Just enter your TDEE, weight, and body fat% Up on the left hand corner it will say “file” click on that, then click on “download.” Under fill there will be a little arrow pointing down, click on that, that will download the file as well.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2MlEgY5q9lgTk1abHJsMElONlE/edit?usp=sharing

10. Extras
Heybales Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Amt7QBR9-c6MdGVTbGswLUUzUHNVVUlNSW9wZWloeUE

IPOARM GROUP: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/8017-in-place-of-a-road-map
IPOARM Forum topic: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/937712-in-place-of-a-road-map-ver-3-0



Is this just rubbish? or is MFP putting it the right way? MFP was 1600 cals and doing this for myself is 1839

Haris Benedict Formula : 2151

Sedentary: 2299 (little or none)
Light Activity: 2635(3 days)
Moderately Active: 2970 (5 days)
(workouts)

TDEE x .80= BMR

Sendentary: 1839- 113 carbs, 107 Protein, 106 Fats *20%, 25%, 55%*
Light: 2108- 163 carbs, 124 proteins, 106 fat * 30%, 25%, 45%*
Moderately: 2376- 213 carbs, 141 proteins, 106 fat * 30%, 30%, 40%*


Military Body Fat Calculation

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The formula below will not calculate your exact body fat percentage. This calculation should give you a consistent measurement you can use as a guideline and determine if you're losing body fat and/or muscle.

Here's the information that you entered:

Sex: female
Weight: 304 pounds
Neck: 13 inches
Waist: 50 inches
Hip: 53 inches

Based on this information, you have a lean body mass of 107 pounds. Your lean body mass includes everything in your body that's not fat. Now that we know your lean body mass, let's find out how much fat you're carrying around. We'll subtract your lean body mass from your weight and find you currently have 197 pounds of fat on your body.

Your body fat percentage is 64.8%.

Now that you have this informtion, visit our Goal Body Weight calculator and figure out how much you should weight based on your current lean body mass and body fat percentage.

Replies

  • OMGeeeHorses
    OMGeeeHorses Posts: 732 Member
    FYI NONE OF THE TOP INFORMATION IS MINE IT WAS DONE BY PU AND HEYBALES

    REVISED: HELLOITSDAN WROTE IPOARM

    Heybales and PU created spreadsheets reflecting the info.

    ( sorry!! :) )
  • Helloitsdan
    Helloitsdan Posts: 5,564 Member
    Actually I wrote the road map.
    Heybales and PU created spreadsheets reflecting the info.

    Do the math on a day by day basis and you'll realize my method is about 300cal/week difference from MFPs method.
    Its easier to use because you use a static number as opposed to relying on activity to fuel your day.
  • Helloitsdan
    Helloitsdan Posts: 5,564 Member
    Here's ipoarm in a nutshell:

    eat as many calories as you can to maintain as much lean mass as you can while cutting fat.
    You'll notice most of my people don't have huge drops in weight but report big drops in inches.
    That's natural fat loss.
  • AmyRhubarb
    AmyRhubarb Posts: 6,890 Member
    Stupid to follow? Not in my book! The best success I've had has been over the past year, since I started eating according to the info in the Road Map. And it's sustainable, not a temporary diet or eating plan - I can do this for life, and I plan to - I like losing the fat and keeping the muscle! :bigsmile:
  • mmddwechanged
    mmddwechanged Posts: 1,687 Member
    It worked for me. Thank goodness because I've had some pretty significant challenges:)
  • HMVOL7409
    HMVOL7409 Posts: 1,588 Member
    Stupid to follow? Not in my book! The best success I've had has been over the past year, since I started eating according to the info in the Road Map. And it's sustainable, not a temporary diet or eating plan - I can do this for life, and I plan to - I like losing the fat and keeping the muscle! :bigsmile:

    This.

    Pu also sums it up well enough for me to not respond more. :)
  • OMGeeeHorses
    OMGeeeHorses Posts: 732 Member
    well I feel rude, it was suppose to say STUPID FOR ME TO FOLLOW!!! I just noticed what it sounds like xD I am sorry I really don't want people to think I am a snob!! I was meaning for me and asking if I was doing it right xD
  • mockchoc
    mockchoc Posts: 6,573 Member
    Worked for me!
  • okcat4
    okcat4 Posts: 224 Member
    bump
  • bajoyba
    bajoyba Posts: 1,153 Member
    If you follow the road map, you may lose weight at a slower rate than if you used MFP's numbers, but the idea is that the weight loss is more sustainable that way and you are much more likely to maintain your lean body mass, which makes for a better end result. Give it a shot for a few weeks and see how you do! If you start out eating a larger amount of calories, it's much easier to adjust your plan than if you start out with a huge deficit.
  • Fat_Bottomed_Girl
    Fat_Bottomed_Girl Posts: 355 Member
    Actually I wrote the road map.
    Heybales and PU created spreadsheets reflecting the info.


    Thank you for standing up for yourself, my hackles went up when I noticed your info had been jacked without giving you your proper due!

    All good info to be shared, but let's give credit where credit is due!

    Thanks Dan!
  • OMGeeeHorses
    OMGeeeHorses Posts: 732 Member
    well I feel rude, it was suppose to say STUPID FOR ME TO FOLLOW!!! I just noticed what it sounds like xD I am sorry I really don't want people to think I am a snob!! I was meaning for me and asking if I was doing it right xD
    I just told dan "Any publicity is good publicity" so it's all good.

    Is it stupid for you to follow? The way it's lined out. Honestly yes it is stupid for you to follow. It says you got 64% body fat. This means you can get away with even a bigger deficit. If I was you i would multiply my TDEE by 0.70 and eat that number.I mean if you're comfortable eating that amount. My biggest concern for you is diet adherence(the ability to stick to your plan). If you feel a 30% cut is to big then stick to the 20% cut.

    I mean Good Publicity!! But I just didn't want it to seem like I was being a snot. I mean I guess I am just confused to what would be great for me to follow.. I mean I did it for a day and I lost 5.4lbs when I weighed myself the morning. I weight everyday as it doesn't bother me up or down just makes me push harder.. Normally I see 1lb loss or gain, but I saw 5.4lbs dropped and I upped myself from 1600 to 1839 like it told me to do. I only got to 1660 that day, but normally I was in between 1200-1300 with nadda. So I am for it, but I just want to make sure I am doing it right for myself!! I posted all the info I got above for myself that I was looking to follow. seem right or should change?
  • Helloitsdan
    Helloitsdan Posts: 5,564 Member
    Personally I love these posts because it opens up the "community forum" side of things.

    Here's my stand point and most who've had personal numbers run can account fir this:

    Ipoarm is a way to figure out tdee.
    Period.

    You calculate a number and I have you eat that number fir a month.
    Some still lose.
    Some maintain.
    Some gain then lose. <----this happens 90% of the time.
    Some continue to gain.

    Then we adjust the cals or activity.

    Your body is hard wired to maintain homeostasis.
    It wants to procreate and survive to the next meal.
    Low calorie dieting gives the body greater reason to slow metabolic rate and attempt to maintain fat as energy storage.
    This method doesn't do that....to an extent.

    ;)
  • AllTehBeers
    AllTehBeers Posts: 5,030 Member
    meh TL;DR

    If you follow it, it works.
  • OMGeeeHorses
    OMGeeeHorses Posts: 732 Member
    Okay I am doing it right, awesome.. :), well doing it MFP way hasn't done squat. SO I apologize to those feathers I ruffled by making it sound like I was calling it stupid, when I was honestly meaning to ask is it stupid for me xD.

    Also I am thinking it will work a great deal for me seeing as i have 65% fat to loose!
  • OMGeeeHorses
    OMGeeeHorses Posts: 732 Member
    Oh, I am trying to loose weight that is my goal. I notice the closer I get to the calculated numbers given is the quicker i loose weight. When I was doing like I said the 1200-1300 I wasn't moving. I eat 1660 for 1839 and I lost the weight quick. SO I hope its my body's way of saying thank you! :tongue:
  • Helloitsdan
    Helloitsdan Posts: 5,564 Member
    I've found that 1600-1800 is a sweet spot for many women.
    Just make sure you lift weights and rest.
  • t2kburl
    t2kburl Posts: 123 Member
    I think IPOARM is great.
    When I switched I was stuck on a plateau for a long time, losing my ability to focus and concentrate due to increasing deficits, but not losing any weight.
    I started a heavy lifting program at the same time. I gained a couple of pounds at first, but then the fat started dropping off and life got better.
    Insanity took the fat loss to another level. Even that got better when I adjusted my calorie intake up to compensate for the added burn.
    Now I've cycled back to a lifting program again. Change is good.

    Thanks Dan!
  • mghanie
    mghanie Posts: 105 Member
    bump
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
    It would be stupid not to follow it ;)
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    It's just two different methods. Essentially TDEE method vs NEAT method. They're both valid and in my experience come out about 6 of 1.

    When I was doing MFP and eating most of my exercise calories back I was averaging around 200 - 2100 calories gross; when I switched to TDEE - 20% I was around 2,050 calories but didn't have to worry about fueling my exercise because it was already in the calculation.

    I think NEAT is a good method for people new to exercise or those that may otherwise be inconsistent because they don't have to worry about if they missed their routine for a few days or whatever...as long as they meet their goals, they will lose. TDEE is not forgiving when you skip workouts because the formula assumes you are doing everything routinely and consistently.
  • rfsatar
    rfsatar Posts: 599 Member
    Here's ipoarm in a nutshell:

    eat as many calories as you can to maintain as much lean mass as you can while cutting fat.
    You'll notice most of my people don't have huge drops in weight but report big drops in inches.
    That's natural fat loss.

    Exactly this.
    When someone who sees me at the gym day in and day out commented that I had lost a load of weight (when really it was half a lb here, half there) it was an amazing validation. It's not about the number for me anymore - it's all about the proportions!
  • casy84
    casy84 Posts: 290 Member
    I had no idea about this method because when I joined MFP I just used the phone app and never read the forums. Because of this I stayed at 1200cal for months. I did lose the weight slowly(avg 1lb/week), but when I was done I just looked skinny fat. Now I've upped my cals, slowly started to work out and things are improving. I think that using the MFP estimation is not good enough. I loved what the scale showed, but the mirror... not so much. Now I've gained ~2lbs, but my measurements got smaller.
  • loranch
    loranch Posts: 94 Member
    Bump
  • I adore IPOARM. I've lost more the last month that I did in the 6 months before that. I happened to join a DietBet that directly coincided with starting IPOARM, here are pics to show what just one month did:

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  • WaterBunnie
    WaterBunnie Posts: 1,371 Member
    I always wonder why people sign up for one system then have to go looking for a way to change it. MFP works as it is and you only eat more if you exercise more - surely a great added incentive!!
  • I always wonder why people sign up for one system then have to go looking for a way to change it. MFP works as it is and you only eat more if you exercise more - surely a great added incentive!!

    Actually, MFP doesn't work for everyone. When I followed MFP's guided versus IPOARM, I started losing, finally, after following IPOARM v.3 and it's been awesome. MFP has guided options, but also allows you to set your own goals - which means I can use MFP and IPOARM together.
  • Tendlr
    Tendlr Posts: 17
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  • oldbooh
    oldbooh Posts: 15
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