Help with hubby's cals -
chasetwins
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OK..so my husband is still thinking of doing the juicing diet (fruits & vegs - due to previous post I need to specify LOL) - it is confirmed he wants it for quick loss which I suspected all along. He has not started yet but only because he has not had time to get the items and do the juicing which is time consuming.
This week's results are not helping me get him to do it slow and steady. He lost 5 the very first day (water / fluke what ever) then weigh in was today and he stayed the same all week. So if someone could help me out I would greatly appreciate it!
I used the spreadsheet (IPOARM or what ever it is called) to get his calorie goal. I am wondering if it is too low for him which I know for a fact can cause an issue.
He is 6'1
weighs 288
does not work out - however is on his feet all day at work. (he builds control cabinets / wiring) Does not really move a round a lot at work but is standing / leaning over for I would estimate 6 or 7 hours a day 5 days per week. At home during the week he doesn't do much but is pretty busy on the weekends usually car work though..again standing but not exactly moving a lot.
I (according the spreadsheet) have him at 2066 cals per day (sounded low to me for him but without working out / much exercise did not know what to put him at) - I ask on a regular basis if he is / was hungry with what I planned for him to eat and he is not. In fact he is eating more times than he was just lower calorie items. I just bought him a fit bit last week so hopefully I can get a better idea after 2 weeks or so of his movement / calorie burn. But in the mean time...I kind of need some advice
Previous to starting this diet - he would stop at Dunkins and have a doughnut or 2 (not every day though) - not eat until lunch which was the previous nights dinner. Usually healthy since it was what i had too. Not eat again till dinner. After dinner is where some of his issues were. I would make a healthy snack - he would have that plus half a bag of tortilla chips or a bowl of ice cream. Occasionally a pop tart later. (he is a night time snacker) He also drank high sugared drinks at home (not sure at work)
Now he eats a banana before work - a 200 cal egg white eng muffin when he gets to work - a fruit or protein bar at break - lunch - then a fruit or snack bar (depending on which he ate earlier) in the afternoon - dinner - light snack - and usually because calories allow one more snack later. He is now drinking more water and for flavor he drinks crystal light or arnold palmer tea only.
I know if your metabolism is screwed up it takes a few weeks to fix and start losing...do you guys think this is the issue or do you think 2066 is too low for him?
This week's results are not helping me get him to do it slow and steady. He lost 5 the very first day (water / fluke what ever) then weigh in was today and he stayed the same all week. So if someone could help me out I would greatly appreciate it!
I used the spreadsheet (IPOARM or what ever it is called) to get his calorie goal. I am wondering if it is too low for him which I know for a fact can cause an issue.
He is 6'1
weighs 288
does not work out - however is on his feet all day at work. (he builds control cabinets / wiring) Does not really move a round a lot at work but is standing / leaning over for I would estimate 6 or 7 hours a day 5 days per week. At home during the week he doesn't do much but is pretty busy on the weekends usually car work though..again standing but not exactly moving a lot.
I (according the spreadsheet) have him at 2066 cals per day (sounded low to me for him but without working out / much exercise did not know what to put him at) - I ask on a regular basis if he is / was hungry with what I planned for him to eat and he is not. In fact he is eating more times than he was just lower calorie items. I just bought him a fit bit last week so hopefully I can get a better idea after 2 weeks or so of his movement / calorie burn. But in the mean time...I kind of need some advice
Previous to starting this diet - he would stop at Dunkins and have a doughnut or 2 (not every day though) - not eat until lunch which was the previous nights dinner. Usually healthy since it was what i had too. Not eat again till dinner. After dinner is where some of his issues were. I would make a healthy snack - he would have that plus half a bag of tortilla chips or a bowl of ice cream. Occasionally a pop tart later. (he is a night time snacker) He also drank high sugared drinks at home (not sure at work)
Now he eats a banana before work - a 200 cal egg white eng muffin when he gets to work - a fruit or protein bar at break - lunch - then a fruit or snack bar (depending on which he ate earlier) in the afternoon - dinner - light snack - and usually because calories allow one more snack later. He is now drinking more water and for flavor he drinks crystal light or arnold palmer tea only.
I know if your metabolism is screwed up it takes a few weeks to fix and start losing...do you guys think this is the issue or do you think 2066 is too low for him?
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I have the exact situation. My husband is losing 1.5 pounds a week, but he is unhappy with that. He keeps saying he wants to lose it faster than that and saying the diet is "not worth it" if he only loses a pound a week. But on the other hand, he admits that he really hasn't been hungry. I suspect he just misses his potato chip binges. Can't offer you any suggestions, but wanted to let you know you are not alone. I am trying to keep him on track. Good luck to you.0
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I have the exact situation. My husband is losing 1.5 pounds a week, but he is unhappy with that. He keeps saying he wants to lose it faster than that and saying the diet is "not worth it" if he only loses a pound a week. But on the other hand, he admits that he really hasn't been hungry. I suspect he just misses his potato chip binges. Can't offer you any suggestions, but wanted to let you know you are not alone. I am trying to keep him on track. Good luck to you.
Ya I think his desire to lose FAST is stronger than most women LMAO - glad i am not alone
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Why isn't he doing this himself?0
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I have his age as 50 ( I don't know his age and his activity level 1-3 hrs light exercise)...I got 2690 according to Scooby calculator..With his TDEE being 3363.0
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I have his age as 50 ( I don't know his age and his activity level 1-3 hrs light exercise)...I got 2690 according to Scooby calculator..With his TDEE being 3363.
Sorry forgot age - he is 370 -
Even at a Desk job I have 2433 for him and 1-3 hrs activity I have him at 2788.0
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Why isn't he doing this himself?
He is not a very organized person and would fail (we both know it) he wants to be healthy but doesn't know how. He prefers quick fixes like the juice diet but I am trying to get him to think long term. He is just starting out and asked for my help. As his wife..I have no squabs about doing it for him. I do the grocery shopping and cooking. He eats almost the same as me just more. After a few months when he is out and about he will be able to make healthier choices - right now it is all about teaching him LOL I explain everything I do and why..not just hand him a plate.0 -
Even at a Desk job I have 2433 for him and 1-3 hrs activity I have him at 2788.
So the calculation I have on the spreadsheet definitely is too low...which can be an issue. I will bump it up this week (fingers crossed!) Because he stands but doesn't really move around..I think I was too unsure of where to put his activity level.
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Just remember it will take more then one week or even 2 weeks or perhaps even longer for his body to adjust. For me it took 3 weeks staying the same "weight"...0
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That is the part he is not understanding ~ Going to have him read this post haha Maybe it will click if another guy says it verse me just telling him.
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:Yes. Usually I don't listen to my wife either :laugh:
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As a couple they may have made the choice that she does the gocery shopping, the inside house work and the cooking; while he does the lawn mowing, home maintenance/ repair and take care of the cars.Why isn't he doing this himself?0 -
:Yes. Usually I don't listen to my wife either :laugh:
LMAO!!!!0 -
The juice diet works while you are juicing, but as soon as you stop, all the weight comes back. My husband lost 25 pounds in a month, but gained it all back and then some almost instantly.
It sounds like your husband needs a lifestyle change. You sound like you are helping to push him in the right direction! Whatever changes he makes in his diet, need to be things that he is comfortable implementing for the rest of his life.0 -
As a couple they may have made the choice that she does the gocery shopping, the inside house work and the cooking; while he does the lawn mowing, home maintenance/ repair and take care of the cars.Why isn't he doing this himself?
That's all fine and good. I just think that perhaps he should take some ownership in his own weight loss. He should be getting used to eating and logging. She can't lose the weight for him, she can't exercise for him, and she can't control every single thing that he puts into his mouth.
I'm not the most organised person either. I still managed to be able to figure out my TDEE, weigh and log my calories and exercise, and lose weight. If the man can get up, get dressed, and go to work, pay bills and taxes, then surely he can manage to spend 15 minutes a day logging his food or coming on to a forum to ask questions.
Not to rain on anyone's parade he but I don't think your husband is all that keen to lose weight.0 -
The juice diet works while you are juicing, but as soon as you stop, all the weight comes back. My husband lost 25 pounds in a month, but gained it all back and then some almost instantly.
It sounds like your husband needs a lifestyle change. You sound like you are helping to push him in the right direction! Whatever changes he makes in his diet, need to be things that he is comfortable implementing for the rest of his life.
exactly what happened last time he "tried" it...I keep telling him that is a quick fix that causes more trouble than it is worth. I do not think he realizes how long I have been living the healthier lifestyle..he sees my clothes now so baggy on me and it is like he thinks I just started last week. He doesn't understand...it needs to be steady and slow for success
He likes everything he is eating so far and is never hungry (bonus!) and actually said...I thought diet food was supposed to be gross and boring...dinner has been awesome! I said it is not diet food...it is real food there is a difference lol He still snacks...just different or less of what he likes. I have not removed anything - only added healthy things and cut serving sizes. So he does not feel deprived and can do this long term. The problem is he is in a rush all of sudden
and I need to slow him down! 0 -
As a couple they may have made the choice that she does the gocery shopping, the inside house work and the cooking; while he does the lawn mowing, home maintenance/ repair and take care of the cars.Why isn't he doing this himself?
That's all fine and good. I just think that perhaps he should take some ownership in his own weight loss. He should be getting used to eating and logging. She can't lose the weight for him, she can't exercise for him, and she can't control every single thing that he puts into his mouth.
I'm not the most organised person either. I still managed to be able to figure out my TDEE, weigh and log my calories and exercise, and lose weight. If the man can get up, get dressed, and go to work, pay bills and taxes, then surely he can manage to spend 15 minutes a day logging his food or coming on to a forum to ask questions.
Not to rain on anyone's parade he but I don't think your husband is all that keen to lose weight.
I beg to differ..I have actually been controlling what he puts in his mouth for over a week now lol -
he doesn't grab anything to eat or drink without - asking or taking a picture of the nutritional label. He knows the basis of it...I just do the meal planning. I buy, plan and make all the meals for the whole family anyways so what is the difference ? The only thing I am doing now that I was not doing before is asking questions to help him...he is controlling himself by not straying away from the planned foods...which in itself shows he does want to try my method.0 -
He sounds a lot like my husband. Perhaps you can remind him how juicing did not work last time, and that he would be setting himself up to fail all over again. We both know that weight loss cant happen overnight, but our husbands don't get that. My husband is slowly starting to realize this... he's watched me slowly transform, and it has made him realize that he needs to join me. I think men like to compete, so maybe challenging him would make him more motivated. My husband is terrified of me being a size 4 and him still wearing a size 38.
It can be tricky when he isn't around... my husband eats things he shouldn't when he's at work. I make sure I buy plenty of snacks for him to take with him to leave at his desk. Its easier to turn down a free doughnut when he has beef jerky sitting around.0 -
He sounds a lot like my husband. Perhaps you can remind him how juicing did not work last time, and that he would be setting himself up to fail all over again. We both know that weight loss cant happen overnight, but our husbands don't get that. My husband is slowly starting to realize this... he's watched me slowly transform, and it has made him realize that he needs to join me. I think men like to compete, so maybe challenging him would make him more motivated. My husband is terrified of me being a size 4 and him still wearing a size 38.
It can be tricky when he isn't around... my husband eats things he shouldn't when he's at work. I make sure I buy plenty of snacks for him to take with him to leave at his desk. Its easier to turn down a free doughnut when he has beef jerky sitting around.
He just text me a chart (from fitbit) showing me the deficits from .5 to 2 lbs per week. He says - it will take me 3 years to get to goal on this diet! I ain't got time for that LMAO...then proceeds to say that with the juicing he lost 8 pounds in one week...speed diet and be at goal in a couple months.
I replied...first just because you lost 8 pounds in the first week doesn't mean it will be that way every week. And...juicing may help you lose 50 pounds in 2 months but you will gain 100 back in 3 when you go back to eating normal again He just laughed at me but I think he gets the point!
I agree - I think me losing and toning is effecting his need to all of a sudden lose weight. Great that he wants to..but he needs to realize to keep it off he has to do it right. *sigh* I just keep preaching haha0 -
Just remember it will take more then one week or even 2 weeks or perhaps even longer for his body to adjust. For me it took 3 weeks staying the same "weight"...
When you say adjust, do you mean adjusting to the new weight ? My husband has lost 14 pounds in 6 weeks and he is happy with that, however it seems like one week nothing happens and then he looses 3 pounds the following week. He and I are logging everything, he is even more particular than I am. What I am afraid of is that he will lose motivation of the "adjustment period" is too long.0 -
As a couple they may have made the choice that she does the gocery shopping, the inside house work and the cooking; while he does the lawn mowing, home maintenance/ repair and take care of the cars.Why isn't he doing this himself?
That's all fine and good. I just think that perhaps he should take some ownership in his own weight loss. He should be getting used to eating and logging. She can't lose the weight for him, she can't exercise for him, and she can't control every single thing that he puts into his mouth.
I'm not the most organised person either. I still managed to be able to figure out my TDEE, weigh and log my calories and exercise, and lose weight. If the man can get up, get dressed, and go to work, pay bills and taxes, then surely he can manage to spend 15 minutes a day logging his food or coming on to a forum to ask questions.
Not to rain on anyone's parade he but I don't think your husband is all that keen to lose weight.
Agreed. I'll answer questions when my husband asks what we have to eat, but I won't pack his lunch/snacks for work or monitor his portions. That's up to him if and when he decides he is ready. I also bought him a fitbit flex to track his movement since he saw how much I love my fitbit one, but I can't force him to exercise either. All I can do is set a good example and hope that when he is ready he will do this for himself. The more work and effort he has to put into it, the better sense of accomplishment when he does lose the weight.0 -
As a couple they may have made the choice that she does the gocery shopping, the inside house work and the cooking; while he does the lawn mowing, home maintenance/ repair and take care of the cars.Why isn't he doing this himself?
That's all fine and good. I just think that perhaps he should take some ownership in his own weight loss. He should be getting used to eating and logging. She can't lose the weight for him, she can't exercise for him, and she can't control every single thing that he puts into his mouth.
I'm not the most organised person either. I still managed to be able to figure out my TDEE, weigh and log my calories and exercise, and lose weight. If the man can get up, get dressed, and go to work, pay bills and taxes, then surely he can manage to spend 15 minutes a day logging his food or coming on to a forum to ask questions.
Not to rain on anyone's parade he but I don't think your husband is all that keen to lose weight.
Agreed. I'll answer questions when my husband asks what we have to eat, but I won't pack his lunch/snacks for work or monitor his portions. That's up to him if and when he decides he is ready. I also bought him a fitbit flex to track his movement since he saw how much I love my fitbit one, but I can't force him to exercise either. All I can do is set a good example and hope that when he is ready he will do this for himself. The more work and effort he has to put into it, the better sense of accomplishment when he does lose the weight.
I think I am a rare wife...been packing his lunches for a decade. He has for lunch what we have for dinner (I make extra) so it is no big deal for me.0
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