Gaining even doing what I am supposed to...please help :(
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Bella can you open your diet so we can see what kinds of food you are eating. I am thinking like everyone else that is a very high number . I have a lot of hormone issues so i know all about the weight hanging on.
I would maybe try eating 1800 for a few weeks and see if that helps . GOOD LUCK0 -
Stick to it girl!! I gained at the beginning of my journey and since the end of the first couple weeks I am now losing fat!
You are most likely gaining muscle. If it is really worrying you, go to a nutritionist and maybe talk with a personal trainer... Where I go I got a free consultation!0 -
At best, I would call the doctor and re-discuss. I think perhaps there was a misunderstanding? Did he mention any other numbers that could have been confused? Did he explain? That number definitely sounds more like TDEE to me. No harm in asking.0
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Since that RMR is likely trustworthy, there is still a matter of when it was done within the month.
Potential 200-400 calorie inflation if done on your peak BMR time during the month.
Which means you could only have a deficit for perhaps 1 week out of month.
The timing of your RMR test within the month could easily reflect the fact you are at a high or low BMR, and potential for 200-400 calorie spread for the max variation in the month.
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/36/4/611.full.pdf+html
Just to keep in back of mind, was test done on the hill or valley of the month, or nicely on the side of the hill?In our study, there is an average differ- ence of 0.25 kcal/min or 359 kcal/day in the BMR from its zenith, before menses, to its nadir, after ovulation.
So depending on the timing of your test, that may not be your avg value.0 -
Thanks for adding me as a friend i did have a look at your diet and there is a few things that i would change if it was me
Eat more good FATS you have a high fat intake but its not good fats things like Almond ,walnuts , Avocados ,coconut oil ,and olive oil also i would add more Veggies like Kale, Spinach ,Radishes, Cucumbers, Broccoli, Cauliflower ,and salads with homemade dressing and maybe add some berries to your diet they are one of the best fruits as they are low in natural sugars .
i my self believe that you need to have proteins and carbs in your diet good carbs are healthy for you and they are the ones found in sprouted grains fruit veggies, lentils, yams
hope this help you0 -
At best, I would call the doctor and re-discuss. I think perhaps there was a misunderstanding? Did he mention any other numbers that could have been confused? Did he explain? That number definitely sounds more like TDEE to me. No harm in asking.
This was the only test I got done besides getting a body scan for an accurate BF%.
I have a feeling I need to go see an endocrinologist to see if there is more wrong than just the PCOS.
Everytime I get my thyroid checked they tell me it is in the normal range, but I keep hearing you have to get your T4 tested to be sure and not sure if normal tests do that.
Otherwise I am at a loss. I feel like the only person ever who can't lose weight low carb lol0 -
All I would add to the advice people have already said is make sure you re-feed at points, depending on how much you need to reset your hormones depends on you. Also I can echo the concerns over the cal intake, I'm 6'2 and to lose weight whilst training I take on 1200-1800, to gain around 3100.
The concept of what I mentioned above (refeeding) is, cut back on carbs/calories enough and your body adjusts your hormones to cater for the amount of cals it expects to take in on a daily basis. If you continually limit yourself you will eventually plateau and any attempt to lose more weight will often be in vain whilst your body stores any excess carbs it wasn't expecting - causing you to potentially gain.
Eat small often, eat protein, cut carbs, drink water.
Do that for say 5 or 6 out of 7 days then re-feed.
Or if it suits you more, do the low carb thing for 12 days then re-feed for 2.
I found it important to trick your body into expecting a certain amount of energy then withdrawing the carbs to make it feast on fat reserves.
Hope this is in some small way helpful.0 -
Thanks for adding me as a friend i did have a look at your diet and there is a few things that i would change if it was me
Eat more good FATS you have a high fat intake but its not good fats things like Almond ,walnuts , Avocados ,coconut oil ,and olive oil also i would add more Veggies like Kale, Spinach ,Radishes, Cucumbers, Broccoli, Cauliflower ,and salads with homemade dressing and maybe add some berries to your diet they are one of the best fruits as they are low in natural sugars .
i my self believe that you need to have proteins and carbs in your diet good carbs are healthy for you and they are the ones found in sprouted grains fruit veggies, lentils, yams
hope this help you
Thanks for the advice bev, alot of the things you mentioned are too high carb to eat a lot of in a day for me. because my cals have been set so high, I have alot of food to get in and that means a lot more meat and dairy than anything because by the time I eat my veggies I don't have much carbs left to work with. I do use olive oil and coconut oil when cooking and do sometimes put coconut oil in my coffee. I eat a good amount of veggies, I may have a few days here and there where it is less, but it is usually just a day that I haven't gone shopping yet. Also, keto is high fat low carb, so that does mean having to eat high fat things like dairy to get my macros to come out right. I do definitely eat nuts, had some nut butter with celery for breakfast yesterday, but if you eat too much they definitely up the carbs.
I either eat green beans, broccoli or cauliflower or salads, I do make my own salad dressings usually, have had a few tough weeks in my personal life, so those things have gone the processed route unfortunately, but it is not a norm. I am staying away from fruit because of the sugar, even adding a serving will put me over my carbs unfortunately.
I know a lot of people don't like the low carb, but this is the only thing that works the best and for women that have PCOS, I am sure the majority have been told to eat low carb. I have tried everything, eating healthy whole grains, legumes, gone pescatarian, went vegan for months - all of these with the carbs just don't do anything for me unfortunately, which makes me believe I maybe very insulin resistant. I am definitely not new to dieting, and if I was an average person I would be skinny by now with the amount of determination and dedication I put in. It is very frustrating putting the effort in and getting nothing in return, which makes it difficult to keep being so diligent and I think that after having been this way for 5 months, I think I have done the best anyone could. I have eaten super clean and that still didn't do much. For the most part my diet is right on track with my macros
Since I have gone low carb I do feel better, and not eating the carbs has kept me on track to not cheat and not eat junk. And I honestly think it is a problem with the cals, not so much the carbs. Like I said there are a ton of people on here that eat junk regularly and lose, and also tons of people on the keto/low carb that don't eat all healthy fats and lose. I have eliminated a lot from my diet and like I said, it is a bit tough to judge the last week, I had a death in the family and unfortunately convenience was needed, but did my best to stay in my carb allotment.
I was trying to follow the keto approach, which is a high fat/low carb plan. I do my best to get healthy fats in there, but there is definitely going to be meats and dairy for the cals and fat in there and I know some people don't consider that good fats.0 -
the keto diet may be the WORST ever...raise your carbs exercise and freaking LIVE..raise your carbs immediately to 250 grams a day...watch the weight fly off....I was exactly where you are at!!0
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I think you are eating far too many calories. Try 1500! Eat only 25 g of healthy fat - you need to take it less than you are burning. If you work out, do NOT add those calories into your daily allowable. Even if you are thinking you are eating GOOD Fat - fat is fat. Focus on lean fresh meat no packaged and no added sodium. Drink lots of water and eat every 2 1/2 hrs - Start with measuring your protein intake too. .8-1 gram per "lean" body weight. (you will need to have a nutrionist measure). Eat equal proterin to carb ratio and 4g of healthy fat per meal/snack. SIX times a day you should aim for. Alternate your Cardio and Strengh training days - 6 days on 1 day off. Or 3 on 1 off. Give yourself a day of rest - YOGA?0
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the keto diet may be the WORST ever...raise your carbs exercise and freaking LIVE..raise your carbs immediately to 250 grams a day...watch the weight fly off....I was exactly where you are at!!
I have a medical condition, it isn't that easy unfortunately lol I wish I could eat like an average person, but from trial and errror over the years, the low carb is the only things that gets the weight moving down.
This is the first time it hasn't so that has me questioning the cal amount I have.
I do see from everyone's responses (thanks so much all of you for taking the time to give me advice) the lowering the cals may be the best thing to do, so I think that is where I will start. I felt they may be too high, and just from hearing from all of you I think you are all right. Going to reset my diary 2000 for this week and then go down to 1800. Don't want to drop too much to fast, and I have to get readjusted to eating less
Does anyone else wish this process could be easier? lol PCOS really sucks0 -
When I was a similar weight, the amount I had to eat to *maintain* was about 2200. I started eating at 1700 to lose. So starting around 2000 and working your way down from there is probably a good way to go - good luck!0
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I would definitely talk to an endocrinologist. Especially since you can go in with a clinically measured RMR and I'll assume a very comprehensive food diary. A thyroid issue (hypothyroid) would decrease your RMR, but yours seems like it might be higher than expected. It's worth consulting a specialist at this point, especially with the PCOS involved.0
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BUMP for later!0
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the keto diet may be the WORST ever...raise your carbs exercise and freaking LIVE..raise your carbs immediately to 250 grams a day...watch the weight fly off....I was exactly where you are at!!
I have a medical condition, it isn't that easy unfortunately lol I wish I could eat like an average person, but from trial and errror over the years, the low carb is the only things that gets the weight moving down.
This is the first time it hasn't so that has me questioning the cal amount I have.
I do see from everyone's responses (thanks so much all of you for taking the time to give me advice) the lowering the cals may be the best thing to do, so I think that is where I will start. I felt they may be too high, and just from hearing from all of you I think you are all right. Going to reset my diary 2000 for this week and then go down to 1800. Don't want to drop too much to fast, and I have to get readjusted to eating less
Does anyone else wish this process could be easier? lol PCOS really sucks
I don't think it would hurt anything to just eat at a 20% deficit from your TDEE right now and see where that gets you. You shouldn't be gaining weight if you are eating at a deficit unless 1) The number was calculated incorrectly 2) you aren't measuring/calculating accurately what you are actually eating 3) You have some other kind of medical problem 4) you are pregnant0 -
Ok, I agree with others that the RMR seems really high. And PCOS DOES really almost require a low-carb diet, don't listen to those who see "low carb" and immediately start in with "keto is bad!" And fat is NOTHING to be afraid of, especially if you're on a low carb diet, if you're staying away from trans fats and making sure to eat plenty of mono and polyunsaturated fats (but saturated fats aren't the devil, either!). And while you definitely need adequate protein, too much can hinder a low-carb diet as well. In your case, I'd set my macros to 5-10% carbs, 20-30% protein, and the rest fats.
So, it sounds like you have the right idea - TDEE approach combined with lower-carb. Based on your ticker it seems like you have a good amount to lose. If I were you (and, honestly, I am, or have been recently) I'd cut a little further off TDEE. About 30% works really well for me; maybe go down to about 1750. When you have more to lose your body can handle cutting a little harder. As you get closer and closer to your goal, you're going to want to decrease that percentage for SURE, but for now that's what I would do, and then just gradually close the gap between your calorie goal and your TDEE (making sure to adjust your TDEE as the pounds come off, of course!).
Also, this is a GREAT time to incorporate some lifting! You want to maintain as much lean body mass as you can, and in your situation you can probably even build a little bit! And, you can choose to either do cardio or not do cardio, just make sure you're accurately including that in your TDEE calculations (you have a choice - the "traditional" way is to figure in your exercise with your TDEE and eat the same amount every day, regardless of if it's a workout day or a rest day. You can also choose to log the exercise separately and eat back your calories, which is also fine, just make sure you're not doubling up and including them in your TDEE calc as well, you know?).0
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