Feeling very low and discouraged

Hi all. I've been reading many forums for ages now, and there are some things that just seem out of my reach.

I am 32, have 3 kids, and I make less than one would get if they were on welfare or disability. ($400/month). My housing is thankfully very cheap, only because we are joined with family, but it takes up 90% of my pay either way, just to have a roof over our head. We get food assistance, which does fantastic to help with feeding us 4, and I know some look down on that, but I'm not just someone trying to take handouts! I work as much as I am able. My job is a cleaning job that starts at 9am and doesn't have an end time, it's just "when everything is clean"... some days it's 2 hours, sometimes 4-6.

Anyway, I don't have a dumb phone, let alone a smart one.. I have internet access at the library, but that's about it.

I'm a bit restricted with outdoor exercise other than walking around the perimeter of my house. I carpool to work and back as I don't have a vehicle. I live 5.3 miles out of city limits.

Most people that have such great success seem to have a few things in common:

1.) Obviously internet access (which they can do workout dvds from youtube etc)

2.) Have a HRM to calculate a lot more acurate than guessing or using MFP's database, which really isn't very accurate at all.

3.) Money to buy equipment, even basics needed like dvds, resistance bands, weights, etc.


I was really hoping to utilize more tips than "move"... that's not possible.


Overall, I am just really discouraged. I really want to journal what my intake/outtake is, and I really truly want to lose weight. I am over 100lbs overweight, and I can feel myself slipping further each day.


Sorry for the sob story. I know, to most, this is just a post full of excuses, I'm just feeling so sad.

Replies

  • bergpa
    bergpa Posts: 148 Member
    The technology is helpful but people lost weight before the Internet, DVD, HRMs and YouTube existed. When I was young (back in the 80's!) people dieting would write down what they ate in a notebook. We didn't have instant access to the calorie information, but writing it down still helped. I remember getting books out of the library to learn exercises and then doing them in our living room with only the carpet for padding.

    So while it may be less convenient without the technology, it is still possible. Think of it this way, when you do lose weight, you can be even prouder of yourself because you'll have done it the old fashion way.
  • amberlykay1014
    amberlykay1014 Posts: 608 Member
    I'm sorry you are feeling so low right now.. I like what the previous poster said about people losing weight before technology. I think it would be a great idea to keep a food journal. You'll quickly learn how many calories your most common foods have and you'll be able to tally your calories up without the MFP diary. People can, and do, lose weight from diet alone, but you should try to move as much as you can throughout the day.

    You can do this!
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    Why is your outdoor exercise limited? And if you can only walk around the perimeter of your house, then do that.

    Or put on some music and dance your butt off. Moving does not have to be expensive and while an HRM is nice for being as accurate as you can, it isn't a necessity. You can use pen and paper to write down your calories.
  • cmeiron
    cmeiron Posts: 1,599 Member
    Does your community have a "loan" program for fitness equipment? I know in my small town people can borrow a whole variety of things - it's an initiative to help people be more active even if they can't afford to buy their own equipment. Maybe check into something like that? Your local library might have videos you can rent, if you have access to a dvd player. You could also check into equipment-free exercise. I've heard really good things about the "You are your own gym" program.
  • JesterMFP
    JesterMFP Posts: 3,596 Member
    It's ok to feel discouraged when it seems like the odds are stacked against you. Most things (not just fitness) are easier when you have enough money. :flowerforyou:

    Some thoughts off the top of my head.

    -you don't have to exercise to lose weight. Yes, it makes things a little easier, you get to eat more, it's hugely beneficial to overall health etc, but it's not necessary for weight loss.

    -you don't need a ton of equipment. I'm not a gym member, and I don't have a smart phone. I do have internet access, but I don't (by choice) do online videos. I do have a heart rate monitor, but it's really not necessary. It's helpful, and interesting, but for many months of my weight loss, I relied on MFP's exercise database to calculate burn, and did fine with that. I was lucky enough to be able to borrow a set of weights, but you can sometimes pick equipment up for free, or cheap, if you keep an eye on small adverts or sites like craigslist. I'm not sure what else there is in your country, but in the UK there are a few sites where people advertise things they want to get rid of for free. Often people are happy to offload exercise equipment they no longer use because it's bulky & heavy and they don't know what else to do with it. Anyway, like I said, you don't need any equipment. When you're in the library, google "body weight exercises" and either print off a few routines or jot them down in a notebook. You can watch videos while you're there to see what your form should look like. Things like squats, lunges, pushups, planks etc will be beneficial, even without weights. Nerdfitness.com is a good website for that kind of thing too. If you have the option of ordering books from your library, you could try to get hold of something like "You Are Your Own Gym".

    -walking is great, and 100% better than nothing, if you can do it. Is there nowhere near your home that you can walk? If not, hey even walking round the outside of your home is better than nothing. Get out there, get your heartrate up... you might not be burning mega calories, but you'll be active, and improving your fitness.

    -As for logging your food, perhaps you could spend a couple of hours in the library on your food diary. You could enter in all the meals you typically eat, and snacks etc, and then jot down all the values. So, at least you know that if you have a particular meal, you'll be eating roughly x amount of calories, and if you add in this or that favourite snack, you'll be adding y amount of calories. I know it's trickier and more tedious than using the website/app but it's something at least.
  • WinnerVictorious
    WinnerVictorious Posts: 4,733 Member
    Hi all. I've been reading many forums for ages now, and there are some things that just seem out of my reach.

    I am 32, have 3 kids, and I make less than one would get if they were on welfare or disability. ($400/month). My housing is thankfully very cheap, only because we are joined with family, but it takes up 90% of my pay either way, just to have a roof over our head. We get food assistance, which does fantastic to help with feeding us 4, and I know some look down on that, but I'm not just someone trying to take handouts! I work as much as I am able. My job is a cleaning job that starts at 9am and doesn't have an end time, it's just "when everything is clean"... some days it's 2 hours, sometimes 4-6.

    Anyway, I don't have a dumb phone, let alone a smart one.. I have internet access at the library, but that's about it.

    I'm a bit restricted with outdoor exercise other than walking around the perimeter of my house. I carpool to work and back as I don't have a vehicle. I live 5.3 miles out of city limits.

    Most people that have such great success seem to have a few things in common:

    1.) Obviously internet access (which they can do workout dvds from youtube etc)

    2.) Have a HRM to calculate a lot more acurate than guessing or using MFP's database, which really isn't very accurate at all.

    3.) Money to buy equipment, even basics needed like dvds, resistance bands, weights, etc.


    I was really hoping to utilize more tips than "move"... that's not possible.


    Overall, I am just really discouraged. I really want to journal what my intake/outtake is, and I really truly want to lose weight. I am over 100lbs overweight, and I can feel myself slipping further each day.


    Sorry for the sob story. I know, to most, this is just a post full of excuses, I'm just feeling so sad.

    buy a notebook and a pen. you can log everything on paper and just look up the calorie totals for everything on the days when you have internet access. people counted calories long before there was MFP or home computers.

    forget the HRMs. they are of dubious value anyway. you can do your cardio with no out of pocket cost except a comfortable pair of shoes. just go for a long walk/jog/run as often as you can.

    when it comes to strength training, you can do bodyweight exercises without equipment (these are called calisthenics). although you won't build much muscle mass, you will strengthen yourself and start to change the way your body looks.

    logging your food every day is all that matters. even if you can't look up your food calories every day, you can still get all of the info you need by adding your values once a week and then inspecting the results.

    there really is nothing stopping you unless you are looking for something to stop you. we all generally eat the same foods week in and week out, so after a couple of months, you'll know the calorie amounts for the foods you eat. i have many of mine memorized (egg = 70, banana =105, cinnamon/raisin bagel = 270, two cups brown rice = 600, etc.)
  • lilbearzmom
    lilbearzmom Posts: 600 Member
    Do you have a YMCA in your town? A lot of them have scholarship programs you could apply for.
    Also, someone mentioned the library- I bet they have exercise DVDs you could borrow.
  • coreyreichle
    coreyreichle Posts: 1,031 Member
    Many cities have a bicycle community group, where you go in, work, and can earn a bicycle.

    If a lack of time there comes into play, you can save up for a cheap one on craigslist. About $75 can get you a bicycle. You can commute by bike everyday, which would net you 10 miles of cycling a day (About 600 calories).

    Until then, you can do many exercises without any equipment. Calisthenics require no equipment, and rely on your own body weight.

    I'm not sure why you're limited to walking the perimeter of your home though. Are there no roads? No sidewalks anywhere?

    If you want to check out some workout DVD's, check the local library.
  • aprell423
    aprell423 Posts: 39 Member
    I'm really sorry that youre going through all of that. I definitely have had several moments of low motivation and mental/physical exhaustion and i feel a lot like i have to drag myself some days to follow through with eating healthy and working out. The fact that you have made the positive decision of joining a healthy life style website like this shows that you are on the right track. keep taking positive baby steps like youve already done and day by day things will get better. By the way im a newbie to this site. :-)
  • c2sky
    c2sky Posts: 487 Member
    You could do a walk run program. Look up some runner's world magazines at the library to learn how to do this. As others mentioned the library is a great source for videos, if you can play those.

    Success is not always a number on a scale. It could be getting better at something. i.e. going from walking 30 minutes to slowly adding running in, until you can run 30 minutes.
  • meshashesha2012
    meshashesha2012 Posts: 8,329 Member
    sorry that you're having such a hard time, but keep in mind that nothing is permanent so it's very possible that your financial position can change :smile:

    in the meantime you dont need to have a lot of $ in order to lose weight and keep it off. keep in mind that weight loss is mainly about the calories you put in to your body rather than how you work out. trust me on that, i got 90 pounds overweight all while working out at least 4 days a week- 60 minutes a day. it's very easy to overeat your calories than to burn those extra calories off.

    you might want to look at the types of food you are receiving on assistance or what you are buying with that assistance. many of those foods tend to be overly processed which is going to usually mean more calories, sodium, sugar than you need or than you would get if you made the same thing yourself.

    as far as working out goes, it's free to walk and run. go to your library and print out routines for walking, c25k and those that involve you using your body weight for strength training. most libraries also have dvds and vhs tapes you can borrow so you can get exercise videos from there.

    you dont need internet access, hrm or home equipment to lose weight. if that was necessary then how where people able to lose weight before these things were invented?
  • Ejourneys
    Ejourneys Posts: 1,603 Member
    I'm sorry you are facing so many obstacles, and Kudos for keeping it all together during these times. I hope your situation improves.

    Years ago I logged everything I ate, and my exercise, in a small notebook. I also looked up and hand-wrote the values for each food. It helped me figure out what I was eating, which for me was half the battle. Exactitude didn't really matter. It was more a question of being more aware in general about what I was eating.

    Back in the 60s a very popular exercise book was the 5bx program of the Royal Canadian Air Force. These exercises were calisthenics and required no equipment. They came in graduated levels so that you could work your way up, and a workout lasted only about 11 minutes. But you got a workout! I've found a free .pdf download here:
    http://gregsadetsky.com/_files/5bx-plan.pdf

    A later edition included exercises for women as well as for men, but my partner and I have done the men's exercises with no problem.

    Sometimes "one day at a time" doesn't do it for me and I have to go one minute at a time. The main thing is to keep going. I give you a lot of credit for that.
  • zahid222
    zahid222 Posts: 233 Member
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  • lulz14
    lulz14 Posts: 36 Member
    Technology makes things easier, but isn't the be all and end all.
    You do obviously have some internet access, is logging daily an option for you?
    Writing down everything you eat is really, really important. Then either log when you have internet or you will be able to cheaply buy a book that details calories in food.

    It will be tedious writing this down, but so important. MFP will let you know your calories goal, stick to it.

    Exercise wise, you don't need fancy equipment.

    There are heaps of guides online about gym and equipment free exercise. Walking/jogging/running is going to be good. Also add in sets of exercises like squats, lunges and sit ups. You will notice a difference.
  • 98777
    98777 Posts: 108 Member
    Hello,

    I think you'd lose a lot of weight first-off by changing your diet. Diet is the main part of weight loss. You could gradually cut out unhealthy things, eat less fast food, cut out sodas, etc. and replace them with fruits and vegetables, healthier meals and ways of cooking, and so on.

    Second, your cleaning job provides some physical activity, so that is good for you. :) Also, walking around your area is still a very helpful way to moderately burn calories, especially if your diet is already under control and is aiding your weight loss. If you put your mind to it and be consistent, I think you will be pleasantly surprised.
  • vstraughan
    vstraughan Posts: 163 Member
    I think you're assuming a lot. HRMs and DVDs are nice to haves but that's not what makes you lose weight, YOU are.

    Cleaning is actually pretty good exercise. I took time off recently and did a spring clean. I was aching like hell and sweating all over the place. If you don't have a set time to get your work done, just try picking up the pace to get your heart rate up

    HRMs can be replaced by taking your pulse and using your watch. I genuinely think HRMs are over-rated.

    If you can get to the library, try checking out a few videos on you tube and writing down the exercises that are shown. While you're there, see if they have any books you can checkout on the subject - work outs, low budget recipes. You can also log on paper what you do between your intervals at the library and then just enter it a few days/week at a time.

    I recently stopped using the supermarket for veg and now use the grocers. I found it was cheaper and you get almost twice the amount you would otherwise.

    Losing weight is (they say) 80-90% about diet. Is there food you could grill instead of fry? Could you increase veg and lower meat? For everything you buy, consider if there is a version with less sugar or fat.

    I feel for your situation, I really do but there is still a lot you can do. The great thing you have, which so many people lack, is the drive to do something about it. You keep on fighting and dropping in on us here at MFP from time to time, you CAN get there.

    x
  • jojoshome2
    jojoshome2 Posts: 1 Member
    Hi
    I'm sorry you are feeling so discouraged! The hardest part about losing weight is changing your mindset. It is very easy to sit back and list all the reasons you CAN'T do something, that way you can't possibly fail. On the other hand is very hard to push through the negative. A lot of people think money is the answer but really it can be a good excuse NOT to do something. A notebook and pencil are really all you need. Logging everything you eat is the key, and since you have access to a library you are set. Use the time at the library to track your calorie values, invest time in reading about nutrition and check out some cookbooks to learn that you don't need a lot of money to eat a healthy diet.

    You mentioned your cleaning job and that you start at 9 and sometimes work 6 hours, that means you are done by 2, lots of time to get moving. You also mention 3 kids and at your age I am guessing they are still young. Go outside and play with them, kick around a ball, make a game out of jump rope and jumpimg jacks, tag, hide and seek, or just a plain race to the fence and back. Kids love to play,

    As for the equipment? You dont need it. It is that simple. The more equipment you have the more complicated things get. My DVDs are gathering dust (I dont have time to watch them), the treadmill is a great clothes hanger (when it isnt raining) and I never had a HRM. I invested $8 on an inexpensive pedometer which counts steps and miles. At work when I take my break I walk, and becasue it is heavyily industrial, I dodge the trucks, walk in the gutter and jump over the train tracks. I use every minute I can.
    I know life can be hard, I have been there and I am still there, but it is how you approach your life that matters, wishing and waiting for things to change will never accomplish anything. As the great Erma Bombeck said, "when life hands you lemons, make lemonade"
    Remember you can do it if you choose. The question is do you really want to? It really comes down to your willingness to try all the things that have been suggested here and not think of a reason why you can't do it. Find a reason to do it. Your kids maybe? Only you can lose the weight, and the control is all yours.