what exactly is to "eat clean"?
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Here's what I've learned in the dozens and dozens of threads about clean eating.
It's an entirely made up and arbitrary term that varies from person to person as they see fit.
And secondly, it doesn't do a thing for weight loss. Counting calories does.
Clean eating is more of health benefit then a weight loss plan. You will eat healthier therotically by eating clean. But it's more of a health choice then a weight loss plan. It's healthier to eat fresh raw unprocessed non-chemically injected or enhanced foods. You can lose weight eating anything you want, following any diet. Depends on what your goals are. Jusst like switching to organic.. i buy mostly organic because I'm against GMO.. not becuase I think i'll lose more weight that way.. Although I do believe organic foods are inherently healthier then non-organic foods. I don't care if anyone else agrees with me or not.
If someone is telling you "you're not eating clean enough" tell them to go worry about thier own health goals.
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I don't care if anyone else agrees with me or not.
Translation: I can be demonstrably wrong but I'll continue to believe whatever feels right.0 -
People may not like my answer but for me to "eat clean" means: Eating in such a way that you hit your food / nutritonal goals. So someone that is Vegan may have a different definition of eating clean then myself. Also a powerlifter will probably have a different diet and nutritional plan then an elite marathoner or cycler, etc.. For myself, just an average guy, eating clean means setting my dietary goals and eating to meet them. At this time it means weight loss with some lifting and cardio. At some point in time I would like to do more lifting and my dietary goals will change and eating clean may mean something else at that point.0
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Quote from Layne Norton
"I find the whole idea of ‘clean eating’ pretentious. What exactly defines a food as ‘clean’? Do you spray windex on it? Rub soap on it? I find it a bit preposterous. I’ve been in debates with people promoting ‘clean eating’ but when I ask for a specific scientific definition of what makes a food ‘clean’ they are silent. I think the restrictive diets where you can only eat a half dozen or so foods are not only unhealthy because they don’t give you a diverse intake of nutrients but I believe they promote eating disorders and binging. I see people who ‘eat clean’ during most of the week and then binge on cheesecake, ice cream, and donuts because it’s a ‘cheat’ meal. Oh yea… that is way healthier than eating ‘unclean’ foods in moderation to a hit a specific macronutrient target. *rolleyes* Now that said, I do believe that many IIFYMers (I find it funny that something myself and others been promoting for years gets an acronym attached to it and is now this ‘new’ way of eating LOL) actually go too far in one direction. Most people who origionally promoted targeting macronutrient intakes instead of obsessing about food choices actually eat ‘clean’ foods 95% of the time, we just don’t agonize over having a homemade burrito with a low carb wrap or some reduced calorie ice cream. We see the value of a controlled intake in order to prevent uncontrolled binging. But I do see IIFYM followers who eat as much sugary, high fat foods as they can and wear it like a badge of honor. That is not the point. If you are following a macronutrient intake that is friendly for body composition you will be eating a lot of ‘clean’ foods by default because you will not be able to hit a protein, carb, fat, and fiber intake conducive to body composition improvement if all you eat are high sugar/fat foods. The point is it’s ok to have these foods in small amounts if you are still hitting your goal macronutrient intake."
http://www.shreddedknowledge.com/home/a-talk-with-the-doc-dr-layne-norton/0 -
lol.. well since I can read about what GMO is and what they are putting into the seeds of the plants.. esp without any studies to show what the long term health effects can be.. I'll stick with tried and true gardening techniquies that kept my grandparents alive. I don't think it's healthy to inject pesticides into seeds and then eat the foods produced by those seeds.. Am I 100%? No. But you do what you want and I'll do what I want. Obviously my choices are working for me.I don't care if anyone else agrees with me or not.
Translation: I can be demonstrably wrong but I'll continue to believe whatever feels right.
as for the study posted above.. yes.. an apple is an apple. I want to eat the one that doesn't have pesticides injected in it's seeds. (and ya know.. since they dont' tell us what kind of GMO is used on any particular item.. i'll just avoid them all) Like fish.. I want to eat the wild caught fish rather then farm raised ones, because farm raised ones are where all the"bad fish" comes from. Rather pay a little more and not get sick.
(plus I grew up eating fish I caught.. it tastes better, fish where live now sucks.. lol))
I'm not wrong. I just have different beliefs about food and nutrition than you do.0 -
simply it is
if it didn't come from a mom, a tree or the ground don't eat it
Well I'm a mom, and I make some awesome toll house cookies. So....you can eat them.
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from what I am reading here and elsewhere "clean" is "unprocessed"...
now the problem I have with that is the minute you chop a veggie or fruit it becomes processed...
also has anyone given thought to water, it is heavily treated to be clear, it has undergone water treatment therefore been processed... so how is water good for you?
sorry just being a bit blasé there...
but I personally would refer the same as others and say the less chemical additives the better, our bodies are not a chemical plant...
I eat "NUTRIENT DENSE" not "CALORIE DENSE" food... well as much as possible, sometimes I have an odd cookie or bit of home-made cheesecake, but I ramp up the exercise to compensate....0 -
I like my clean ice cream. Get ice cream. Wash with 1tbls of dish soap (Lemon flavor is the best).
Wash with hot water, mix. refreeze. Eat.
Sorry.
And to think here in my country we do have the so called "dirty ice cream" but it doesn't taste dirty though!0 -
It's not a phrase we use in the U.K.
Yes it is!
I've never heard it spoken here before. Must be what them fancy-folk up London-way talk like.0 -
Quote from Layne Norton
"I find the whole idea of ‘clean eating’ pretentious. What exactly defines a food as ‘clean’? Do you spray windex on it? Rub soap on it? I find it a bit preposterous. I’ve been in debates with people promoting ‘clean eating’ but when I ask for a specific scientific definition of what makes a food ‘clean’ they are silent. I think the restrictive diets where you can only eat a half dozen or so foods are not only unhealthy because they don’t give you a diverse intake of nutrients but I believe they promote eating disorders and binging. I see people who ‘eat clean’ during most of the week and then binge on cheesecake, ice cream, and donuts because it’s a ‘cheat’ meal. Oh yea… that is way healthier than eating ‘unclean’ foods in moderation to a hit a specific macronutrient target. *rolleyes* Now that said, I do believe that many IIFYMers (I find it funny that something myself and others been promoting for years gets an acronym attached to it and is now this ‘new’ way of eating LOL) actually go too far in one direction. Most people who origionally promoted targeting macronutrient intakes instead of obsessing about food choices actually eat ‘clean’ foods 95% of the time, we just don’t agonize over having a homemade burrito with a low carb wrap or some reduced calorie ice cream. We see the value of a controlled intake in order to prevent uncontrolled binging. But I do see IIFYM followers who eat as much sugary, high fat foods as they can and wear it like a badge of honor. That is not the point. If you are following a macronutrient intake that is friendly for body composition you will be eating a lot of ‘clean’ foods by default because you will not be able to hit a protein, carb, fat, and fiber intake conducive to body composition improvement if all you eat are high sugar/fat foods. The point is it’s ok to have these foods in small amounts if you are still hitting your goal macronutrient intake."
http://www.shreddedknowledge.com/home/a-talk-with-the-doc-dr-layne-norton/
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The fitness & nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many things people worry about simply have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren’t worth an ounce of concern.
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And to think here in my country we do have the so called "dirty ice cream" but it doesn't taste dirty though!
And Dirty Potato Chips are called that because they are LESS processed and MORE natural than regular potato chips.0 -
i wash my hands before a meal. Viola! clean eating.
i do enjoy watching people who promote a clean eating lifestyle disagreeing on what that lifestyle entails.
I don't like the term "clean eating" because it does have a superior connotation, when there is nothing to support that it is, in fact, superior. but that's just semantics.0 -
I actually think clean eating serves a very important purpose, having nothing to do with biology. Rather than contributing to a system of obsessive eating behavior, clean eating calms it-ironically. I think lots of people out in the world not only don't keep up with the ebb and flow of debated food science, but they also don't want to. Either they lack the capability, desire, time, or resources to do their own research. And even when people do look at the research (that researchers themselves debate), they're probably misinterpreting it.
Clean eating, as it's usually used, provides people with a simplified way of eating and thinking about food that probably won't hurt them. If you look at it in terms of strict definitions, there's a lot that could go wrong, but that's not how belief systems work.
So there you have it. Clean eating is a belief system. It's definitely not ideal, but it could be worse.0 -
Myself Ive always thought of it as eating whole foods 1 and only 1 ingredient. Strawberries, banannas, apples, fish, chicken, hamburger, steak, lettace, oatmeal, walnuts, well you get the idea.0
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basically it means eat what you could grow... so you cant grow chocolate, but you could grow cocoa beans and grind it into powder, (or just buy unsweetened cocoa
) then maybe use that to make something sweet thats "clean" for example i love this brownies, and they are "clean" http://www.hungryhealthyhappy.com/brownie-bites/ 0 -
I actually think clean eating serves a very important purpose, having nothing to do with biology. Rather than contributing to a system of obsessive eating behavior, clean eating calms it-ironically. I think lots of people out in the world not only don't keep up with the ebb and flow of debated food science, but they also don't want to. Either they lack the capability, desire, time, or resources to do their own research. And even when people do look at the research (that researchers themselves debate), they're probably misinterpreting it.
Clean eating, as it's usually used, provides people with a simplified way of eating and thinking about food that probably won't hurt them. If you look at it in terms of strict definitions, there's a lot that could go wrong, but that's not how belief systems work.
So there you have it. Clean eating is a belief system. It's definitely not ideal, but it could be worse.
Thats a thoughtful and great response iMO - food for thought for sure.
My only issue is "Clean eating as it is usually used". That's the crux of the problem - I don't know if I have pinned down how it is "usually used".
From this small thread alone:
* It means eating natural foods with only natural ingredients. (basically nothing artificial or with added chemicals/preservatives.)
* A person who eats clean would never eat fat free ice cream or light mayo. They would eat real haagen daz and homemade mayo.
* Pasta and rice are things you can be clean foods depending on who you ask and what kind they are.
* I thought processed foods was anything made by a company?
* Don't eat anything I can't pronounce. Look at labels and if you see a list of chemicals, it's better to move on to a different product.
* If it has a label, it probably isn't "clean".
* Also see Paleo Diet
* reshly snapped green beans = clean canned/frozen green beans = not so clean
*if it didn't come from a mom, a tree or the ground don't eat it
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I am not disagreeing or agreeing with these people at all - Im just showcasing that it is a very difficult concept to pin down. Is it all of the above things? Some of the above things? Not at all any of the above things?
to me I'd rather place faith in things like Calorie Deficit and IIFYM. At least those belief systems have a real definition.
Maybe this is my own hang up though, and I am looking too much into it.... That has been known to happen...0 -
It's not a phrase we use in the U.K.
Yes it is!
Was just thinking that, Ive heard it loads!0 -
A good trick is to shop the outside perimeter of your supermarket. Produce, dairy, meat, fish, and bread are located there. Processed and junk food are in all the rows. Not perfect advice, but helpful.
I shop at tesco... that wouldnt work
Well not unless i wanted to eat cd's, dvd's, gardening equipment, fresh cream cakes (not half!! but so not good for the diet) and glass (wine bottles)0 -
To me eating clean (which I don't) is avoiding processed foods and foods with artificial sweeteners, colors, etc. A person who eats clean would never eat fat free ice cream or light mayo. They would eat real haagen daz and homemade mayo.
I thought processed foods was anything made by a company?
Basically, what I TRY to do, is: don't eat anything I can't pronounce. Look at labels and if you see a list of chemicals, it's better to move on to a different product. Even better, eat things that don't have a list of ingredients: fruits, veggies, meats, seeds, nuts, oils, etc.
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A brief introduction to phonics would vastly expand your menu.
Ouch, and completely unnecessary. Also, regular American phonetics won't help with chemical nomenclature. Tell me this looks healthy.
Does this list of ingredients sound healthy?
Alpha-Linolenic-Acid, Asparagine, D-Categin, Isoqurctrin, Hyperoside, Ferulic-Acid, Farnesene, Neoxathin, Phosphatidyl-Choline, Reynoutrin, Sinapic-Acid, Caffeic-Acid, Chlorogenic-Acid, P-Hydroxy-Benzoic-Acid, P-Coumaric-Acid, Avicularin, Lutein, Quercitin, Rutin, Ursolic-Acid, Protocatechuic-Acid, Silver, Tryptophan, Threonine, Isoleucine, Leucine, Lycine, Methionine, Cystine, Phenylalanine, Tyrosine, Valine, Argenine, Histidine, Alanine, Aspartic Acid, Glutamic Acid, Glycine, Proline, and Serine. Trace amounts of Boron and Cobalt.
Mwahaha! I know what this is. It's an apple.
Well played sir.
Some tough words there. I guess apples (and every other food on the planet) no longer qualifies for "clean" based on the, "if I can't pronounce it" definition.0 -
There is a difference between naturally occuring chemicals and those that are extracted, concentrated and reintroduced into foods. example: Arsenic that occurs naturally in a food will not harm you.. extract that arsenic concentrate it and give it to someone..no thanks right??.. The point is.. We don't know the true affects of *better living through chemicals* other then an increase in disease, which may or may not be linked to processed foods, depending on what studies you choose to believe. I'm in the camp that believes food is the cause and cure of most diseases. So I choose to eat in a manner that suits my beleifs. Clean eating is not a belief system. It's simply putting a name to eating the way our grandparents ate. It's eating foods as they were intended to be eaten. People alter it to suit their own beleifs. .which is fine.. but the nuts and bolts of it is to eat fresh raw unprocessed whole foods. It doesn't mean you can't eat a cookie.. that you make yourself using real food. It does, however, take store bought oreos out of the equation. (they are gross anyway!! I think I'm the only person on the planet who hates oreos. LOL)
Basically a lot of people who claim to know everything will tell you all different things about clean eating versus not clean eating. The best thing for you to do is look it up yourself and make your own decision based off what you find out. You're the only one who can decide what is right for you and what you are willing able able to sacrafice (or what needs to be changed in a dietary sense) to meet your health and nutrition goals.0 -
There is a difference between naturally occuring chemicals and those that are extracted, concentrated and reintroduced into foods. example: Arsenic that occurs naturally in a food will not harm you.. extract that arsenic concentrate it and give it to someone..no thanks right??.. The point is.. We don't know the true affects of *better living through chemicals* other then an increase in disease, which may or may not be linked to processed foods, depending on what studies you choose to believe. I'm in the camp that believes food is the cause and cure of most diseases. So I choose to eat in a manner that suits my beleifs. Clean eating is not a belief system. It's simply putting a name to eating the way our grandparents ate. It's eating foods as they were intended to be eaten. People alter it to suit their own beleifs. .which is fine.. but the nuts and bolts of it is to eat fresh raw unprocessed whole foods. It doesn't mean you can't eat a cookie.. that you make yourself using real food. It does, however, take store bought oreos out of the equation. (they are gross anyway!! I think I'm the only person on the planet who hates oreos. LOL)
Basically a lot of people who claim to know everything will tell you all different things about clean eating versus not clean eating. The best thing for you to do is look it up yourself and make your own decision based off what you find out. You're the only one who can decide what is right for you and what you are willing able able to sacrafice (or what needs to be changed in a dietary sense) to meet your health and nutrition goals.
That's an impressive quantity of made-up, unsupported BS.0 -
There is a difference between naturally occuring chemicals and those that are extracted, concentrated and reintroduced into foods. example: Arsenic that occurs naturally in a food will not harm you.. extract that arsenic concentrate it and give it to someone..no thanks right??.. The point is.. We don't know the true affects of *better living through chemicals* other then an increase in disease, which may or may not be linked to processed foods, depending on what studies you choose to believe. I'm in the camp that believes food is the cause and cure of most diseases. So I choose to eat in a manner that suits my beleifs. Clean eating is not a belief system. It's simply putting a name to eating the way our grandparents ate. It's eating foods as they were intended to be eaten. People alter it to suit their own beleifs. .which is fine.. but the nuts and bolts of it is to eat fresh raw unprocessed whole foods. It doesn't mean you can't eat a cookie.. that you make yourself using real food. It does, however, take store bought oreos out of the equation. (they are gross anyway!! I think I'm the only person on the planet who hates oreos. LOL)
Basically a lot of people who claim to know everything will tell you all different things about clean eating versus not clean eating. The best thing for you to do is look it up yourself and make your own decision based off what you find out. You're the only one who can decide what is right for you and what you are willing able able to sacrafice (or what needs to be changed in a dietary sense) to meet your health and nutrition goals.
My grandparents ate (one still does as she is still alive) margarine and a bunch of other processed foods and drinks.0 -
There is a difference between naturally occuring chemicals and those that are extracted, concentrated and reintroduced into foods. example: Arsenic that occurs naturally in a food will not harm you.. extract that arsenic concentrate it and give it to someone..no thanks right??.. The point is.. We don't know the true affects of *better living through chemicals* other then an increase in disease, which may or may not be linked to processed foods, depending on what studies you choose to believe. I'm in the camp that believes food is the cause and cure of most diseases. So I choose to eat in a manner that suits my beleifs. Clean eating is not a belief system. It's simply putting a name to eating the way our grandparents ate. It's eating foods as they were intended to be eaten. People alter it to suit their own beleifs. .which is fine.. but the nuts and bolts of it is to eat fresh raw unprocessed whole foods. It doesn't mean you can't eat a cookie.. that you make yourself using real food. It does, however, take store bought oreos out of the equation. (they are gross anyway!! I think I'm the only person on the planet who hates oreos. LOL)
Basically a lot of people who claim to know everything will tell you all different things about clean eating versus not clean eating. The best thing for you to do is look it up yourself and make your own decision based off what you find out. You're the only one who can decide what is right for you and what you are willing able able to sacrafice (or what needs to be changed in a dietary sense) to meet your health and nutrition goals.
I'm with you on the Oreos. I used to love them, then I stopped eating a lot of processed foods, and now they taste like chemical cardboard. A little sad, but also better for me. On the other hand, Kashi oatmeal chocolate chip cookies are delish!
There are people that always come onto threads about healthy eating and dispute it. This is done by insulting you, your belief systems, your education, etc. Bottom line is, not everyone has to agree. I love what eating clean has done for my health and my body, so I'm sticking with it and will encourage others to try it out.0 -
but I personally would refer the same as others and say the less chemical additives the better, our bodies are not a chemical plant...
The only problem with that and the large majority of responses here is that our bodies ARE chemical 'plants'. All that is made of matter in the universe with the exception of electricity and other forms of energy, are chemicals. Water is a chemical, oxygen is a chemical, plants are made up of chemicals. WE are made of chemicals. Without chemicals we would cease to exist. Wether or not these chemicals are naturally occurring or synthetically produced makes absolutely no difference. There is a 'chemical term' for all things out there (see apple example above), and yes a lot of them are hard to pronounce, but it doesn't make them 'bad'. People hear the word 'chemical' and think it's scary because they automatically think the only types of chemicals there are, are the ones made in laboratories.0 -
There is a difference between naturally occuring chemicals and those that are extracted, concentrated and reintroduced into foods. example: Arsenic that occurs naturally in a food will not harm you.. extract that arsenic concentrate it and give it to someone..no thanks right??.. The point is.. We don't know the true affects of *better living through chemicals* other then an increase in disease, which may or may not be linked to processed foods, depending on what studies you choose to believe. I'm in the camp that believes food is the cause and cure of most diseases. So I choose to eat in a manner that suits my beleifs. Clean eating is not a belief system. It's simply putting a name to eating the way our grandparents ate. It's eating foods as they were intended to be eaten. People alter it to suit their own beleifs. .which is fine.. but the nuts and bolts of it is to eat fresh raw unprocessed whole foods. It doesn't mean you can't eat a cookie.. that you make yourself using real food. It does, however, take store bought oreos out of the equation. (they are gross anyway!! I think I'm the only person on the planet who hates oreos. LOL)
Basically a lot of people who claim to know everything will tell you all different things about clean eating versus not clean eating. The best thing for you to do is look it up yourself and make your own decision based off what you find out. You're the only one who can decide what is right for you and what you are willing able able to sacrafice (or what needs to be changed in a dietary sense) to meet your health and nutrition goals.
I'm with you on the Oreos. I used to love them, then I stopped eating a lot of processed foods, and now they taste like chemical cardboard. A little sad, but also better for me. On the other hand, Kashi oatmeal chocolate chip cookies are delish!
There are people that always come onto threads about healthy eating and dispute it. This is done by insulting you, your belief systems, your education, etc. Bottom line is, not everyone has to agree. I love what eating clean has done for my health and my body, so I'm sticking with it and will encourage others to try it out.
I agree that insults are unwarranted, but shouldn't factually incorrect statements be corrected?
For example: the idea that arsenic in nature is different from arsenic elsewhere. Arsenic is quite simply a metallic element, equally poisonous whether it's from a fruit (not that it naturally occurs in fruits) or a laboratory vial. Cyanide, which is probably what the poster was thinking of, is the same way.
The idea that you can ingest cyanide because you find it "in nature"... I guess from fruits or fungi, is flat out false. The only difference is the dosage.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/05/030514080833.htm
Someone should tell those people that they can't get cyanide poisoning from raw foods, lol.0 -
There is a difference between naturally occuring chemicals and those that are extracted, concentrated and reintroduced into foods. example: Arsenic that occurs naturally in a food will not harm you.. extract that arsenic concentrate it and give it to someone..no thanks right??.. The point is.. We don't know the true affects of *better living through chemicals* other then an increase in disease, which may or may not be linked to processed foods, depending on what studies you choose to believe. I'm in the camp that believes food is the cause and cure of most diseases. So I choose to eat in a manner that suits my beleifs. Clean eating is not a belief system. It's simply putting a name to eating the way our grandparents ate. It's eating foods as they were intended to be eaten. People alter it to suit their own beleifs. .which is fine.. but the nuts and bolts of it is to eat fresh raw unprocessed whole foods. It doesn't mean you can't eat a cookie.. that you make yourself using real food. It does, however, take store bought oreos out of the equation. (they are gross anyway!! I think I'm the only person on the planet who hates oreos. LOL)
Basically a lot of people who claim to know everything will tell you all different things about clean eating versus not clean eating. The best thing for you to do is look it up yourself and make your own decision based off what you find out. You're the only one who can decide what is right for you and what you are willing able able to sacrafice (or what needs to be changed in a dietary sense) to meet your health and nutrition goals.
I'm with you on the Oreos. I used to love them, then I stopped eating a lot of processed foods, and now they taste like chemical cardboard. A little sad, but also better for me. On the other hand, Kashi oatmeal chocolate chip cookies are delish!
There are people that always come onto threads about healthy eating and dispute it. This is done by insulting you, your belief systems, your education, etc. Bottom line is, not everyone has to agree. I love what eating clean has done for my health and my body, so I'm sticking with it and will encourage others to try it out.
Do you think Kashi choc chip cookies are unprocessed?0 -
There is a difference between naturally occuring chemicals and those that are extracted, concentrated and reintroduced into foods. example: Arsenic that occurs naturally in a food will not harm you.. extract that arsenic concentrate it and give it to someone..no thanks right??.. The point is.. We don't know the true affects of *better living through chemicals* other then an increase in disease, which may or may not be linked to processed foods, depending on what studies you choose to believe. I'm in the camp that believes food is the cause and cure of most diseases. So I choose to eat in a manner that suits my beleifs. Clean eating is not a belief system. It's simply putting a name to eating the way our grandparents ate. It's eating foods as they were intended to be eaten. People alter it to suit their own beleifs. .which is fine.. but the nuts and bolts of it is to eat fresh raw unprocessed whole foods. It doesn't mean you can't eat a cookie.. that you make yourself using real food. It does, however, take store bought oreos out of the equation. (they are gross anyway!! I think I'm the only person on the planet who hates oreos. LOL)
Basically a lot of people who claim to know everything will tell you all different things about clean eating versus not clean eating. The best thing for you to do is look it up yourself and make your own decision based off what you find out. You're the only one who can decide what is right for you and what you are willing able able to sacrafice (or what needs to be changed in a dietary sense) to meet your health and nutrition goals.
I'm with you on the Oreos. I used to love them, then I stopped eating a lot of processed foods, and now they taste like chemical cardboard. A little sad, but also better for me. On the other hand, Kashi oatmeal chocolate chip cookies are delish!
There are people that always come onto threads about healthy eating and dispute it. This is done by insulting you, your belief systems, your education, etc. Bottom line is, not everyone has to agree. I love what eating clean has done for my health and my body, so I'm sticking with it and will encourage others to try it out.
Do you think Kashi choc chip cookies are unprocessed?
Did I say they were completely unprocessed? No.
Are they less processed than others? Yes.
ETA: And out of this post all you took was I said Kashi cookies taste good? :huh:0 -
There is a difference between naturally occuring chemicals and those that are extracted, concentrated and reintroduced into foods. example: Arsenic that occurs naturally in a food will not harm you.. extract that arsenic concentrate it and give it to someone..no thanks right??.. The point is.. We don't know the true affects of *better living through chemicals* other then an increase in disease, which may or may not be linked to processed foods, depending on what studies you choose to believe. I'm in the camp that believes food is the cause and cure of most diseases. So I choose to eat in a manner that suits my beleifs. Clean eating is not a belief system. It's simply putting a name to eating the way our grandparents ate. It's eating foods as they were intended to be eaten. People alter it to suit their own beleifs. .which is fine.. but the nuts and bolts of it is to eat fresh raw unprocessed whole foods. It doesn't mean you can't eat a cookie.. that you make yourself using real food. It does, however, take store bought oreos out of the equation. (they are gross anyway!! I think I'm the only person on the planet who hates oreos. LOL)
Basically a lot of people who claim to know everything will tell you all different things about clean eating versus not clean eating. The best thing for you to do is look it up yourself and make your own decision based off what you find out. You're the only one who can decide what is right for you and what you are willing able able to sacrafice (or what needs to be changed in a dietary sense) to meet your health and nutrition goals.
I'm with you on the Oreos. I used to love them, then I stopped eating a lot of processed foods, and now they taste like chemical cardboard. A little sad, but also better for me. On the other hand, Kashi oatmeal chocolate chip cookies are delish!
There are people that always come onto threads about healthy eating and dispute it. This is done by insulting you, your belief systems, your education, etc. Bottom line is, not everyone has to agree. I love what eating clean has done for my health and my body, so I'm sticking with it and will encourage others to try it out.
Do you think Kashi choc chip cookies are unprocessed?
Did I say they were completely unprocessed? No.
Are they less processed than others? Yes.
ETA: And out of this post all you took was I said Kashi cookies taste good? :huh:
How so? a batter is made and then baked. Compare Oreos to Kashi, which has more ingredients?
http://www.kashi.com/products/nutrition_info/cookies_chocolate_almond_butter
http://whatisthatingredient.com/product.php?id=360
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