Not sure about my trainer's nutrition advice?
NaomisGonnaWin
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I joined a new gym and they gave me a complimentary session with a personal trainer. She walked me through a nutrition plan this morning, to basically "jump-start" my metabolism and get it running as fast as possible. Nothing on the "good foods" list surprised me, and obviously "no-nos" like fried foods and soda weren't a surprise either.
What did surprise me were some of the other foods on the "no-no" list:
- most fruits (like mangos, berries, and apples)
- dairy, including yogurt and skim milk
- any nuts except raw almonds
- carrots
- tomatoes
Those foods have been big parts of my clean eating diet (esp yogurt and tomatoes), and I have been making good progress the past few months - 14lbs lost since I started MFP early March.
Should I start cutting out these foods as well, or do you think it's unnecessary? Thanks!
What did surprise me were some of the other foods on the "no-no" list:
- most fruits (like mangos, berries, and apples)
- dairy, including yogurt and skim milk
- any nuts except raw almonds
- carrots
- tomatoes
Those foods have been big parts of my clean eating diet (esp yogurt and tomatoes), and I have been making good progress the past few months - 14lbs lost since I started MFP early March.
Should I start cutting out these foods as well, or do you think it's unnecessary? Thanks!
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I also disagree with your trainer. As opposed to cutting out certain foods, I advocate calorie control and IIFYM.0
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Those suggestions are pretty ridiculous. I eat a bunch of strawberries and three ounces of carrots per day and I'm just fine. I'm not sure what your trainer's basis is for saying not to eat them, but they are both nutritious and low-calorie. Keep eating them.0
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Jump start that metabolism eh? If it ever stopped, you'd be dead.
Most trainers are not trained in nutrition. So, take it with a pinch of salt.0 -
I thought berries were a "superfood" that were the choice to go to for fruit? WTH????0
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I disagree with the trainer's advice... Anything should be included in moderation.
There is no world in which fruit is bad for you. I understand it's full of sugar but also full of goodness!0 -
Thanks for responses so far... I think the primary reason she was advocating dropping them is because of their glycemic index... basically, that I should cut them out because of their natural sugars.
But I thought that sugars were fine if they're natural sugars, not processed sugars, right?0 -
I'd get a new trainer.0
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My 2 cents--good fats come from oils EEVO, coconut, Fish, nuts, nut butter, avocado, and eggs. Berries and apples relatively harmless--end my 2 cents is up.0
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I do NOT agree with this information. The reason for cutting out those types of foods are probably because of the sugars in them. I never realized how much sugar is in tomatoes but I count all my sugars keeping it at 30 g a day. As long as you are logging your eating in moderation I wouldn't worry about that. Do what works for you. Not every thing works for every one.0
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Ask your trainer for 3 evidence-based-practice articles backing up her claims for eliminating each healthy food.
When people give me wonky advice, I like to put them on the spot and test their knowledge. Appropriate evidence-based-practice includes double-blind, non-commercially-sponsored scientific research.
When your trainer provides the scientific evidence, review them carefully and decide if the evidence and outcomes are convincing enough for you to change your eating behaviors.
Stop taking so-called experts (real life or online) opinions as truth. Learn to read scientific evidence and make your own decisions.0 -
It might be interesting to try the suggestions for only a week or two, to see if there is any difference. I don't know how I'd live without apples and berries, though!
I'm unsure as to why berries and apples are on no-no list - usually they're at the top of the 'yes' list because of their fibre content. Mangos are high on the glycemic index, and dairy can affect digestion, so I get that. Was it a detox diet that she gave you?0 -
Thanks for responses so far... I think the primary reason she was advocating dropping them is because of their glycemic index... basically, that I should cut them out because of their natural sugars.
But I thought that sugars were fine if they're natural sugars, not processed sugars, right?
I count ALL sugars natural or otherwise. Sugar is still sugar.0 -
On the first phase of South Beach, no fruit is allowed. This lasts for two weeks. Some plans do restrict carrots and tomatoes because of their natural sugars. I have never heard of skim milk or unsweetned yogurt being prohibited, however.
I have learned that the best way to lose weight is to limit your calories and up your activity level - eat less, move mere. And eat a healthy, balanced diet, making sure that there is nutritional value in everything you eat. Nobody ever got fat from eating too much fruit.
Congratulaions on your progress so far!0 -
It might be interesting to try the suggestions for only a week or two, to see if there is any difference. I don't know how I'd live without apples and berries, though!
I'm unsure as to why berries and apples are on no-no list - usually they're at the top of the 'yes' list because of their fibre content. Mangos are high on the glycemic index, and dairy can affect digestion, so I get that. Was it a detox diet that she gave you?
Yes, I think it's meant to be a detox diet.... basically "do this for 8 weeks, then after 8 weeks we'll adjust" though I think that even after 8 weeks are up, I'm only supposed to be allowed to eat these foods in small amounts, as treats.
Her advice really didn't sit well with me.0 -
I think having lists of "good foods" and "bad foods" is a great way to have an unhealthy relationship with food.0
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What does say you are detoxing from?It might be interesting to try the suggestions for only a week or two, to see if there is any difference. I don't know how I'd live without apples and berries, though!
I'm unsure as to why berries and apples are on no-no list - usually they're at the top of the 'yes' list because of their fibre content. Mangos are high on the glycemic index, and dairy can affect digestion, so I get that. Was it a detox diet that she gave you?
Yes, I think it's meant to be a detox diet.... basically "do this for 8 weeks, then after 8 weeks we'll adjust" though I think that even after 8 weeks are up, I'm only supposed to be allowed to eat these foods in small amounts, as treats.
Her advice really didn't sit well with me.0 -
You have good reason to be skeptical.0
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Fitness trainers are not nutrition experts. Cutting out most fruits and vegetables that you love would run counter to your goals, don't worry about this "advice" and keep eating good food at a reasonable calorie deficit. There are some fitness-y types who labor under the impression that eating clean means eating boiled chicken without so much as a spec of seasoning five nights a week. Just laugh it off and know that when they crash their binges are epic.0
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I STRONGLY disagree with that!!0
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i dont agree at all with what she is telling you. i eat those things on a daily basis and it has not stopped me from losing weight. i can see where some nuts can be higher in calories? i can see if your just eating a ton if fruit that i could be bad? someone with diabetes not balancing fruit can play with blood sugar. and some people dont understand that fruit does have calories. but it does not make those things bad. just eat in moderation and balance your diet. i eat a tomato a day in a salad! no way i would cut that lol! and i love carrots. thought they were good for your eyes. i would ask where she is getting her information!0
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You've lost 14 pounds since March. Looks like you know what you need to eat or not eat. Getting in more exercise is good though because there is no downside to burning more calories or getting toned.0
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I'd get a new trainer.
I would do this ^^^
Some fruit and fruit juices can be "bad" if you consume tons, but I've never seen an obese person that eats a lot of fresh fruits.
Dairy can be bad for you depending on how you digest it, but again not necessarily a "bad" food.
You're safe eating the rest.0 -
I joined a new gym and they gave me a complimentary session with a personal trainer. She walked me through a nutrition plan this morning, to basically "jump-start" my metabolism and get it running as fast as possible. Nothing on the "good foods" list surprised me, and obviously "no-nos" like fried foods and soda weren't a surprise either.
What did surprise me were some of the other foods on the "no-no" list:
- most fruits (like mangos, berries, and apples)
- dairy, including yogurt and skim milk
- any nuts except raw almonds
- carrots
- tomatoes
Those foods have been big parts of my clean eating diet (esp yogurt and tomatoes), and I have been making good progress the past few months - 14lbs lost since I started MFP early March.
Should I start cutting out these foods as well, or do you think it's unnecessary? Thanks!
i disagree as well. you don't need to eliminate ANYTHING from your diet, even the ones you claim to be obvious no-nos. create a moderate calorie deficit and you will lose weight. lift heavy to retain your LBM.0 -
oy...
You can safely disregard that advice, imho. There really isn't any reason to change your diet, unless it is really bad (excessive fried foods and saturated fats), you are training to be an Olympian or something, or you have severe allergies or a medical reason. Just eat less of whatever you are eating now, if you need to lose weight. No reason to increase protein, eat like a cave person, get rid of wheat, etc. Eat less, move more. It isn't rocket science. Of course, if you want to try that stuff, knock yourself out!
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Good luck!0 -
What does say you are detoxing from?It might be interesting to try the suggestions for only a week or two, to see if there is any difference. I don't know how I'd live without apples and berries, though!
I'm unsure as to why berries and apples are on no-no list - usually they're at the top of the 'yes' list because of their fibre content. Mangos are high on the glycemic index, and dairy can affect digestion, so I get that. Was it a detox diet that she gave you?
Yes, I think it's meant to be a detox diet.... basically "do this for 8 weeks, then after 8 weeks we'll adjust" though I think that even after 8 weeks are up, I'm only supposed to be allowed to eat these foods in small amounts, as treats.
Her advice really didn't sit well with me.
Nothing in particular... she was just saying that this is to "jump-start" my metabolism to get the weight coming off quickly.
Thanks everyone for confirming my suspicion... I've been enjoying the foods I've been eating these past few months, I feel healthy and like I'm getting stronger, and the weight is coming off at a good safe pace. I think I'll disregard her advice and keep on chugging the way I've been doing so far.
Again, thank you everyone!!0 -
I also disagree with your trainer. As opposed to cutting out certain foods, I advocate calorie control and IIFYM.
What he said.. you shouldn't cut anything out. All in moderation.0 -
"Those foods have been big parts of my clean eating diet (esp yogurt and tomatoes), and I have been making good progress the past few months - 14lbs lost since I started MFP early March"... You said yourself you've made good progress eating these foods so cutting them out shouldn't even be an option, carry on eating them & disreguard what has been said as half of these personal trainers out there these days don't have a clue.0
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