Low carbs special effect?

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  • aalhasan
    aalhasan Posts: 104
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    I started consuming carbs last week (after 3 weeks of cutting them). I'm still way under the carbs goal set by MFP.
    I consume 80-100, maybe 130 at max. My goal is 223.
    Shall I start cutting carbs again if I want to? or is there something that could happen by these surprise cuts?
  • MyJourney1960
    MyJourney1960 Posts: 1,133 Member
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    I think it's a very personal thing. I am 52, female, and I notice that FOR ME, it works to cut back on carbs - i noticed a difference when i cut down/out bread. I know that it works for a lot of women i know (my age group). Is it something that works across the board for everyone? probably not.

    and really - there is NEVER going to be one answer that every one will agree on. I think that in general, if you eat less and exercise more, you wil lose weight. for me (again, the personal thing) i find that when my weight loss gets stuck, I up the cardio and cut the carbs. is that the answer for everyone? maybe, maybe not...
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
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    Although you might see the weight come off initially, once you start eating carbs again you'll gain it all back. And you will eventually start eating carbs again because a low-carb/carb-free diet isn't sustainable at all.

    can you explain this further?
    I'm not crossing my set calorie intake at all. Will something go wrong if I start eating carbs again yet I'm still under my calorie goal?

    Oh and my weight is 205-210, 5'8 height, 19 yo.

    If you're not doing some form of moderately intense exercise and are instead cutting carbs to lose weight, then once you reintroduce carbs into your diet you'll gain the weight back. Carbs are stored as fat when they're not used as energy, so if your body is not expending them as energy to fuel workouts then they'll be stored as fat.

    What is Glycogenesis and what is DNL?
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
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    I think it's a very personal thing. I am 52, female, and I notice that FOR ME, it works to cut back on carbs - i noticed a difference when i cut down/out bread. I know that it works for a lot of women i know (my age group). Is it something that works across the board for everyone? probably not.

    and really - there is NEVER going to be one answer that every one will agree on. I think that in general, if you eat less and exercise more, you wil lose weight. for me (again, the personal thing) i find that when my weight loss gets stuck, I up the cardio and cut the carbs. is that the answer for everyone? maybe, maybe not...

    I'm a 52 yo female as well and I've lost without eating low carb. I would say I eat moderate carb (163 total, 127 net on average). Whether or not you are insulin restistant (I am not) can make a big difference in success with low carb, I think.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
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    Although you might see the weight come off initially, once you start eating carbs again you'll gain it all back. And you will eventually start eating carbs again because a low-carb/carb-free diet isn't sustainable at all.

    can you explain this further?
    I'm not crossing my set calorie intake at all. Will something go wrong if I start eating carbs again yet I'm still under my calorie goal?

    Oh and my weight is 205-210, 5'8 height, 19 yo.

    If you're not doing some form of moderately intense exercise and are instead cutting carbs to lose weight, then once you reintroduce carbs into your diet you'll gain the weight back. Carbs are stored as fat when they're not used as energy, so if your body is not expending them as energy to fuel workouts then they'll be stored as fat.

    What is Glycogenesis and what is DNL?

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  • vbrent07
    vbrent07 Posts: 115
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    From what I understand about carbs from a nutrition course I had to take is that there are two kinds: refined (things like white bread and pasta) and complex (whole grains, wheat ect) Your body needs carbs for energy but it needs less refined because that mainly turns into sugar. Try things like brown rice, whole wheat/grain bread, oatmeal, barely, couscous, whole wheat pasta, quiona, instead of white rice, white bread, pasta ect. They actually make your body feel full to because most contain a good amount of fiber. I've tried to eat low carb but it makes me tired the whole day. Switching to complex carbs has helped with my energy and I have also lost a few pounds and lots of inches. My bad cholesterol levels have also decreased!
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
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    From what I understand about carbs from a nutrition course I had to take is that there are two kinds: refined (things like white bread and pasta) and complex (whole grains, wheat ect) Your body needs carbs for energy but it needs less refined because that mainly turns into sugar. Try things like brown rice, whole wheat/grain bread, oatmeal, barely, couscous, whole wheat pasta, quiona, instead of white rice, wheat bread, pasta ect. They actually make your body feel full to because most contain a good amount of fiber. I've tried to eat low carb but it makes me tired the whole day. Switching to complex carbs has helped with my energy and I have also lost a few pounds and lots of inches. My bad cholesterol levels have also decreased!

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  • jacksonpt
    jacksonpt Posts: 10,413 Member
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    Although you might see the weight come off initially, once you start eating carbs again you'll gain it all back. And you will eventually start eating carbs again because a low-carb/carb-free diet isn't sustainable at all.

    can you explain this further?
    I'm not crossing my set calorie intake at all. Will something go wrong if I start eating carbs again yet I'm still under my calorie goal?

    Oh and my weight is 205-210, 5'8 height, 19 yo.

    If you're not doing some form of moderately intense exercise and are instead cutting carbs to lose weight, then once you reintroduce carbs into your diet you'll gain the weight back. Carbs are stored as fat when they're not used as energy, so if your body is not expending them as energy to fuel workouts then they'll be stored as fat.

    What is Glycogenesis and what is DNL?

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  • Joocey
    Joocey Posts: 115 Member
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    Although you might see the weight come off initially, once you start eating carbs again you'll gain it all back. And you will eventually start eating carbs again because a low-carb/carb-free diet isn't sustainable at all.

    can you explain this further?
    I'm not crossing my set calorie intake at all. Will something go wrong if I start eating carbs again yet I'm still under my calorie goal?

    Oh and my weight is 205-210, 5'8 height, 19 yo.

    If you're not doing some form of moderately intense exercise and are instead cutting carbs to lose weight, then once you reintroduce carbs into your diet you'll gain the weight back. Carbs are stored as fat when they're not used as energy, so if your body is not expending them as energy to fuel workouts then they'll be stored as fat.

    What is Glycogenesis and what is DNL?

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  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
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    Stored carbohydrates hold water. When you reduce carbs, stored carbs and water are lost.

    How much do you reckon - about 5 lbs ? 10 maximum.

    It's clearly bollocks to say "you'll gain it all back" if you've lost 50 lbs on a low carb diet.
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
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    From what I understand about carbs from a nutrition course I had to take is that there are two kinds: refined (things like white bread and pasta) and complex (whole grains, wheat ect)

    Ask for your money back. Simple carbs are small molecules like sugars, complex carbs are large ones like starch.

    "Refined" is an ill defined weasel word that may mean the fibre or other impurities have been separated out.

    Does anyone actually eat whole grains ?
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
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    From what I understand about carbs from a nutrition course I had to take is that there are two kinds: refined (things like white bread and pasta) and complex (whole grains, wheat ect)

    Ask for your money back. Simple carbs are small molecules like sugars, complex carbs are large ones like starch.

    "Refined" is an ill defined weasel word that may mean the fibre or other impurities have been separated out.

    Does anyone actually eat whole grains ?

    As long as you mean whole grains as in the bran and germ have not been removed, then yes. If you are being confrontational and mean the whole plant, then probably not.
  • ERAY13
    ERAY13 Posts: 17 Member
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    I'm going to have to disagree that the low-carb is over-hyped. Or shall I say, low-grain. There's a lot of research out there that points to otherwise. If you look at all your fit Hollywood people, they all generally say the same thing: they follow a protein-rich, vegetable-rich, low to no grain diet.

    I have never been an over-eater per se. But keeping grains to a minimum (i.e. one meal a day) helped me get 20 pounds off and maintain that weight for five years. If I "screw up", I see it on the scale, and I also feel lethargic. Some say 1200 calories is 1200 calories. But you can eat a lot more food @ 1200 calories if you're eating clean and unprocessed foods.

    I wouldn't say that "fit Hollywood people" counts as "a lot of research".

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    RCTs showing significantly more weight loss with low carb diets

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  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
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    Stored carbohydrates hold water. When you reduce carbs, stored carbs and water are lost.

    How much do you reckon - about 5 lbs ? 10 maximum.

    It's clearly bollocks to say "you'll gain it all back" if you've lost 50 lbs on a low carb diet.

    I agree. Which is why I never say that.

    Certainly you could gain it all back if you stop a low carb diet, but the same is true of any diet unless you replace it with another diet of similar calories.