dr said not to eat exercise calories
20carrots
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I saw my doc today and she said that if I eat my exercise calories I'll only maintain. She told me to eat 1200 calories even when I exercise to lose weight...your thoughts?
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Does she know that MFP calculates a deficit for you?? That it's built in to your calorie goals on this site?0
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Doctors don't know squat about nutrition. They aren't required to take but the minimum of nutrition classes (IE: What is a carb? What is a protein? blah, blah, blah). Unless they have a nutrition certification, degree, or minor with their degree, I wouldn't trust them for nutrition evaluation. Same with exercise. Doctors don't take any exercise prescription classes.0
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I typically do not eat ALL my exercise calories (I usually have around 200 left over) and I am still losing the weight. So, not a Dr. opinion, just a person's. And I will say that I have trouble staying at the 1200 anyway. There is just not enough to fill me up during the day. I could easily stay at 1500-1700 and feel comfy. So having the workout calories helps!0
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She basically said if I eat more than 1200 cals, regardless of exercise, I will maintain my current weight.0
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I ate my exercise calories and I lost weight. If you are eating a maintenance amount of calories, that is true but if you are eating at a deficit, you should still lose.0
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That's only if you eat your maintenance calories plus exercise.
You are set for a deficit plus exercise.
Not eating them would create a larger deficit which is depriving your body of required nutrition.
Unless you are about 4'10" and weigh under a hundred pounds, then maybe 1200 IS your maintenance, but if you were, you probably wouldn't be here....0 -
What do the BMR calculators tell you you should be eating? We don't know your age, gender, height, activity level or weight. You could be 4'6" and weigh 70 pounds for all I know :laugh: .0
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I go back and forth on this all the time. Not to mention that you can go to 3 different calorie counters that supposedly calculate the same thing and get 3 different results.
In the winter, I "eat" my exercise calories with no problems. However, that has done absolutely nothing for me for the past few months. So, I'm back to trying to keep it on the low end, regardless of my activity level, and trying to make sure that I make good choices.
I run a lot and usually bike for 25+ miles (triathlete wannabe)...anyway, I read an article earlier this year that you really don't need to eat any differently than you normally do unless you are engaging in an intense cardio session of an hour or more. So if you are into endurance activities like distance biking/running, then you probably do want to eat your calories, but probably only for a day or 2 before that activity. However, if you are not, then I would pass on eating the calories. I'm sure that has been my problem all along this summer...I'm not running as much due to the heat, and my bike is busted, but I I'm still trying to "eat" my exercise calories.0 -
That is so true. I asked a nutrition question once to my doctor and he said something to the fact that he doesn't know much about that area and that he only took a basic nutrition class.0
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She basically said if I eat more than 1200 cals, regardless of exercise, I will maintain my current weight.
how tall are you? how old are you? this can be true if you are very petite/short or post-menopausal.
my maintainence is in the 1400s. so if i eat 1200 + my exercise calories, i maintain. that is not true for everyone else, but may be true for you and me.
are you asking for advice because you do not trust your doctor? if so, the place to get a second opinion is another doctor, not a forum of strangers who don't know your medical history.
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personally, I would eat them! MFP does figure in something like a 500 calorie deficit and I doubt your doc is taking that into account. I think they do have a setting for "maintain weight" that you could check out and see the diff.
You could try it for a day or two and see how you feel. My goal is 1930 and if I eat, like, under 1500 I usually feel like crap! Excercise or not.0 -
When I first started this my Doc said I needed to be eating 1800 Kcal a day. Just because that's what the "chart" said for my height. I tried that for a few weeks and was miserable. Always Hungry, then I fell off the wagon completely with the thought that I refuse to be that hungry and lose weight.
A few months later I found this website. My base depending on my goals is anywhere from 2100-2400. Most of the time I eat most of my excersise calories. If I don't, I get ravonusly hungry. And I refuse to be hungry.
Needless to say I'm happy with the results.
My point is. Doc's don't always know what they're talking about. Had mine not joined the Army I probably would have fired him. You need to do what works for you, some people are successful while not eating they're EC. Others like me HAVE to eat them.
What ever you do, you need to be comfortable or you won't reach your goals. You'll get discouraged and go back to your previous habits that got you here in the first place.0 -
She basically said if I eat more than 1200 cals, regardless of exercise, I will maintain my current weight.
I find this really hard to believe, unless you're a VERY small person. I'm just shy of 5' 4" and I typically burn 1900-2300 calories/day WITHOUT EXERCISE, and I'm pretty sedentary. If I want to lose 2 pounds per week, I have to stay around 1200 calories/day, but when you exericse you burn more calories, and therefore you eat more to fuel the extra work your body is doing.
Easy example: I burn (on average) 2200/day. I eat 1200/day to have a 1000 calorie deficit (2 lbs/week)
If I exercise and burn 500 calories, that puts me at 2700 burned. If I only ate 1200, my deficit would be 1500, which I don't consider particularly healthy in the long run. My body needs more fuel when I'm working hard!
IF you accurately log calories eaten and don't overestimate calories burned, you should be able to eat back exercise calories and still lose weight. Since MFP's exercise calories tend to be a bit high, you could aim for just eating back half to be safe.0 -
My MFP daily calorie goal (without exercise) is 1560 which is A LOT LESS than what I was eating before I started this plan. Like other members, I don't always eat all of my exercise calories but I've lost weight.
I haven't been at this very long but as I understand it, as you lose weight your daily caloric intake will also decrease--continuing to building in the deficit for your exercise calories.
At this point in time we are not at a point to start a maintenance plan so we need those extra calories from exercising to lose weight and not feel deprived.0 -
She basically said if I eat more than 1200 cals, regardless of exercise, I will maintain my current weight.
Like I said, she doesn't know anything about nutrition. I eat well over 2000 calories a day and have lost 6 pounds in the last month. Nutritional needs are based on each individual. I would have to know a lot more about you (height, weight, body fat percentage, activity level, etc.) to be able to give you a closer estimate of your calorie needs. But 1200 calories is usually only correct for someone who is 90 pounds of lean body mass and completely sedentary. I can honestly count on one hand the number of clients I've given that low of a calorie recommendation to in my 14 years in the fitness industry. And my specialty has always been weight loss, specifically for women.0 -
I eat my exercise calories with pleasure and have lost 2 pounds in 4 days.0
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My doctor said 1000 calories on days without workouts & probably about 1200 on workout days & finally is working for me whereas before I was gaining.0
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How come when someone says they are not or don't eat their exercise calories a bunch of people say "oh my, you must eat them you won't lose weight unless you do," and when someone says they are going to eat their exercise calories a bunch of people say "why would you do that, I don't eat mine." I posted under "I am going to eat my exercise calories" and that is what I got.0
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How come when someone says they are not or don't eat their exercise calories a bunch of people say "oh my, you must eat them you won't lose weight unless you do," and when someone says they are going to eat their exercise calories a bunch of people say "why would you do that, I don't eat mine." I posted under "I am going to eat my exercise calories" and that is what I got.
There is a lot of that on every message board. Everyone has their own information/opinions. AS individuals we need to sort through and just make our own decisions.0 -
She basically said if I eat more than 1200 cals, regardless of exercise, I will maintain my current weight.
hog wash
I am 5'2"., 49 yr old sedentary post menapausal female. 2 years ago I was 170 pounds and I ate 1200 calories and every exercise cal I could get my hands on and I steadily lost 1 pound a week.
As I lost more, it became harder to have a deficit, so I increased my exercise..........but ate back 1/2.
To date I have lost a total of 38 pounds and KEPT IT OFF for over a year.
simple calculations
15 cals per pound to maintain your weight so0 -
There is a lot of that on every message board. Everyone has their own information/opinions. AS individuals we need to sort through and just make our own decisions.
But I don't like to make my own decisions...:grumble: :grumble:0 -
How come when someone says they are not or don't eat their exercise calories a bunch of people say "oh my, you must eat them you won't lose weight unless you do," and when someone says they are going to eat their exercise calories a bunch of people say "why would you do that, I don't eat mine." I posted under "I am going to eat my exercise calories" and that is what I got.
There is a lot of that on every message board. Everyone has their own information/opinions. AS individuals we need to sort through and just make our own decisions.
This is so true. The problem for me was when I ate only 1200 calories and then burned 400-500 I was a beyotch, had stomach pain, couldnt sleep and was all around miserable. Sure I lost 2 lbs a week, but how long can you maintain a diet such as this and feel that cruddy?
I found that eating and nourishing my body was the best way to lose weight and KEEP it off.
Slammin those size 8s this week baby!!
Good luck~!0 -
Here are some topics that explain why in pretty easy to understand terms.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/108362-eating-to-fuel-your-body-very-long
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/10589-for-those-confused-or-questioning-eating-your-exercise-calo
I would highly recommend doing some more research, and possibly even see a nutrionist or dietician. (I don't really know which would be better in your case.) You will find everything from "eat them or you will NEVER lose another pound!" to "don't eat them or you will NEVER lose another pound!" Both statements are not quite true. Even in the dreaded "starvation mode" you still lose weight, you just lose it slower and it's harder.
Personally (and this may not work for you!), I have done all, some and none at various points.0 -
There is a lot of that on every message board. Everyone has their own information/opinions. AS individuals we need to sort through and just make our own decisions.
But I don't like to make my own decisions...:grumble: :grumble:
Me neither. I read these boards all day and wonder if I am doing it right. I ran into a friend today who happens to be a nutritionist. I said something about her recommending a good book and I mentioned the boards. Her response was " You read too much. You know what to do." I told her my calories goal and she said ok.
I have considered blocking the boards so I stop reading them all the time. It's the same questions and similar opinions all day.
Good luck weeding through and I am sure you will come out with less behind.0 -
i just finished med school.
we dont learn much about nutrition whatsoever!!! other than nutritional diseases, its really not in our curriculum. we did take biochemistry and studied exactly how foods break down. but were not dietitians. many of my own classmates were borderline obese.
im not saying hes wrong, since i actually rarely ever eat my cals back lol BUT im just informing u... doctors dont know everything!!!!0 -
It's hard to judge exercise calories accurately.I certainly think the jogging/exercise calorie calculations on MFP are way too generous so you have to find your own level. As for 1200 cals only maintaining weight, thats nonsense, everyone should be able to lose on more than 1200 if they are recording correctly. Good luck:drinker:0
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There have been many posts like this. Personally, I say it depends on the individual. Trial and error and to each their own.
However, one post by someone caught my eye and a lot of people on here put stock in what this person says. The comment was to ask a dietician. So, I did! I have a personal dietician, thanks to having Diabetes. I talked to her Tuesday and again, she said the same thing that she did a few months back: not to eat the exercise calories.
The funny thing is, before I had found this site, she had calculated my calories at 1600. MFP had put me at 1570. Not too far off, I'd say. When I talked to her Tuesday, I told her what MFP has me at now...1430. She said that was about right, perhaps 1450. (I mention the numbers because everyone says that MFP calculates a deficit. She did, too...almost identical amounts!) When I asked her about exercise and making up calories and all the calculating stuff that people keep talking about on here, she said she wouldn't eat those calories.
Like I said, to each their own and everyone is built differently. I know what works for me. I'm not starving, I have energy and my blood sugars are stable. In fact, to quote her, I'm "a very controlled Diabetic." Since I continue to lose weight and feeling better than I ever have, I'll listen to her and use this site to log numbers. Unless the guys that created this site can show me credentials, I'll put my stock in my Dietician, Diabetic nurse and Endocrinologist.
Good luck to all!!0 -
honestly, i thought it was ridiculous, why would i exercise and then eat those calories right back. it worked quite well for a while! then for 3 months i sat and sat at the same weight. i exercised more, tried to eat less, everything EXCEPT eat my calories back. so, last week i decided i would try eating back my exercise calories...voila i lost 5 pounds that week! so, i am going to keep on that track til i hit another plateau and cross that bridge when i get to it. if what you are doing is working then great, dont mess up a good thing!0
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Doctors don't know squat about nutrition. They aren't required to take but the minimum of nutrition classes (IE: What is a carb? What is a protein? blah, blah, blah). Unless they have a nutrition certification, degree, or minor with their degree, I wouldn't trust them for nutrition evaluation. Same with exercise. Doctors don't take any exercise prescription classes.
As a doc I can vouch for this. Honestly, I think at least those specializing in primary care should be required to learn how to help someone exercise and manage their weight, but instead no one talks about it after medical school and during medical school they just teach about vitamin deficiencies and such. The most we can do is quote studies on how your weight/bmi correlates to diseases and mortality. I consider myself to be fairly knowledgeable about nutrition and exercise, but only because I educated myself on the outside like many people do. I bet the OP's doc has no idea how many calories she eats in a day herself.
I don't understand why the exercise calorie thing is so controversial. Many people don't measure their food, or don't know the calories in the food they're eating and have to chose a similar item. People also forget about a bite of this or that, and tend to overestimate calorie burn during exercise. They also tend to move less when they are exercising and dieting, decreasing the daily calories burned (wear a pedometer folks!). Therefore, unless you are not doing any if those things most people do, you will not lose as much as you expect to when you are eating every calorie you think you earned. So the question is not rather to eat your exercise calories, but whether to leave a buffer IMO. But I digress0 -
Oh one last thought... I have noticed MFP giving a *warning* about too little calories consumed when I hit the submit button once. I felt like crap that day and really did not eat that much.. So I think that should be taken into account when questioning what to do...0
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