Starvation Mode? yes and no.

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I made this post in another article but it's getting long so in case you missed it...

I don't believe in the whole "if you eat a little under 1200 your metabolism is going to come to a grinding halt and you're going to gain weight instead" stuff, but just in case I went looking for articles. I found this one, which explains everything quite nicely!

http://caloriecount.about.com/forums/weight-loss/truth-starvation-mode

It basically explains that "starvation mode" is when you are eating almost 50% fewer calories than your body requires, not when you're eating a few less calories every now and then. If you're 100 below your intake goal, it's okay. Your metabolism isn't going to slow down. In some cases it might speed up a tad! And of course, it always depends on the body type.

The article explains things much better. Tell me what you think! :)

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  • HelenJEMason
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    Hi there. Thank for this post as it is of interest to me because I may be experiencing "starvation mode". MFP proposed 1200 calories a day for me to lose 2 pounds a week (I need to shift about 22 in total). The first three weeks were fine and I lost 9pounds. By then I was well into the swing of it and my net calories were probably a bit low though not as low as the study quotes for starvation mode. I suddenly put on 5 pounds in the space of 5 days and my scales indicate that this was fat (they do the BMI/Body fat/water metrics). I can't put it down to anything else and so am increasing my calories to 1500 a day and seeing what happens.

    The interesting thing about the study is that is was of men - not women over 40 like me. Perhaps there are different factors that effect the trigger of starvation mode.

    Interesting stuff!

    Cheers
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
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    There is a metabolic slowdown. It is how humans have survived in times of famine.
  • Phoenix_Rising
    Phoenix_Rising Posts: 11,417 Member
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    Thought I'd post the article here, for those who are lazy (like I generally am :tongue: )

    This past weekend, I started a drastic reduction in my calories. MFP recommends 1550 for me. I'm eating around 1000. My weight is finally coming off and my hunger has decreased. If I do this forever, I'm sure it will impact me negatively. However, being obese, I have plenty for my body to burn off. As the article says, obese people burn their fat first, whereas lean people start burning lean muscle.

    Since brokentink's thread received such a strong reaction, I thought I'd research this subject to see what the research studies show about starvation mode, what gets you into it, and what the short-term and long-term effects are.

    First, what is starvation mode? I found this direct answer on netwellness.org --

    A starvation diet does not mean the absence of food. It means cutting the total caloric intake to less than 50% of what the body requires.

    Using myself as an example, my current weight is 183 lbs. and my bmr is 1450. So, I would have to cut my calories to below 725 per day. However, if I were at my goal weight of 109 lbs., my bmr would be 1129, and so I would have to cut my calories to below 565 calories.

    Many fear that going into starvation mode will drastically reduce their metabolic rate and cause them to hoard calories and gain weight instead of losing.

    This is not borne out by the infamous Minnesota Semistarvation Study (1950), 36 young, healthy, psychologically normal men while restricting their caloric intake for 6 months. Their calories were restricted in various phases, but the least amount of calories they were allowed was 50% of the "normal" maintenance calories. Notice, this was dubbed a "semi" starvation diet.

    Yes, their metabolic rates were significantly lowered -- to something like 40% below baseline. Yet at no point did the men stop losing fat until they hit 5% body fat at the end of the study.

    Lyle McDonald explains it this way:

    In general, it's true that metabolic rate tends to drop more with more excessive caloric deficits (and this is true whether the effect is from eating less or exercising more); as well, people vary in how hard or fast their bodies shut down. Women's bodies tend to shut down harder and faster.

    But here's the thing: in no study I've ever seen has the drop in metabolic rate been sufficient to completely offset the caloric deficit. That is, say that cutting your calories by 50% per day leads to a reduction in the metabolic rate of 10%. Starvation mode you say. Well, yes. But you still have a 40% daily deficit.

    And then he follows with the note about the Minnesota men still continuing to lose fat even thugh their metabolic rates had dropped to 40% below baseline. He says, further, that no study that he's aware of where people were put on strictly controlled diets failed to acknowledge weight or fat loss.

    http://www.thefactsaboutfitness.com/research/ lyle.htm

    Did the Minnesota men suffer negative consequences from the experience. They most certainly did, and, interestingly, many of the same consequences that anorexics experience. You can read all about the various negative consequences at this site and the implications for EDs.

    http://www.possibility.com/epowiki/Wiki.jsp?p age=EffectsOfSemiStarvation

    Another starvation study was done in England, at Cambridge University, to determine the different effects starvation had on lean people versus obese people. It's findings are quite relevant to our discussion. The entire study is found at http://www.unu.edu/unupress/food2/UID07E/uid0 7e11.htm.

    Does starvation mode slow down the metabolism? No, and Yes.

    In the first 2 days of starvation, there is a small absolute increase in BMR relative to values obtained from overnight fasting. Overnight fasting is what every one of us does during our sleeping hours.

    So it is not true that going below recommended calories for one day is going to slow down your metabolism -- quite the contrary, it may speed it up just a little.

    Does Starvation mode cause our bodies to catabilize (devour our muscles and other lean mass)? Yes and No.

    Lean individuals lost great amounts of fat-free, lean tissue during starvation, but obese individuals lost much more fat tissue. Obese individuals have a mechanism that conserves lean mass and burns fat instead. In the study, an example of a lean subject studied after death from starvation: it can be deduced that loss of body fat accounted for 28-36% of the weight loss and fat-free mass 64-72%. In obese individuals, the proportion of energy derived from protein (Pcal%) is only 6% compared to 21% in the lean individual. More than half the weight loss in the obese is fat, whereas most of the weight loss in the lean individual is fat-free mass.

    And the loss of lean mass is not as critical to the obese person as to the lean person simply because an obese person has more lean mass than a person of the same age and height but normal weight.

    Grossly obese individuals (FORBES, 1987; JAMES et al., 1978) may have over 30% more fat-free mass than lean individuals of the same height. In the example shown in Figure 3, the obese individual weighting 140 kg has a fat-free mass that is 29% greater than the 70 kg man. Obese individuals appear to have more muscle and bone than lean individuals, and these help support and move the excess body weight. Obese subjects have large vascular volumes and larger hearts, which are necessary to pump more blood around larger bodies, especially during weight-bearing activities. Obese individuals may also have visceromegaly (NAEYE and ROODE, 1970).

    But when you think about it, doesn't that make fat storage sense? Why would our Maker create us with the ability to store fat if it couldn't sustain us and preserve our lean mass in cases of extreme want?

    So the effects of a starvation diet upon a normal weight teen would be substantially more devastating than to me, a morbidly obese person.

    Now, if the above gives anyone "permission" to undertake a starvation diet, I recommend remedial reading classes.

    My opinion is, you should not go below your goal weight maintenance calories to lose weight, and you should do adequate research and dietary analysis to ensure you are getting the best nutrition you can for your calories.

    If reducing your calorie intake to goal weight maintenance creates greater than 1000 calorie a day deficit, then I strongly suggest that you do a value half-way until you have lost some of your weight.

    Now some advice for those unfortunate individuals who are suffering from EDs or who have foolishly ventured into starvation dieting. This comes from http://www.netwellness.org/question.cfm/28515 .htm
  • totem12
    totem12 Posts: 194 Member
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    ^^This is perfect!
  • st0dad
    st0dad Posts: 23
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    Haha, thanks Phoenix!!

    I know it's how our body survived in times of famine, but the point is, if you eat just a few less calories, your body isn't going to go in to starvation mode. Your body does that when you -drastically- reduce calorie intake. My friends always panic when I say "I don't want to go over 1200" because they immediately panic and go "NO! YOU HAVE TO EAT AT LEAST 1200 OR YOUR BODY WILL GO IN TO STARVATION MODE!"

    now I am starting to have the research to go "Ah! quit yelling! Also no, that won't happen, don't worry!" which is always awesome.
  • st0dad
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    @Helen: I know, a lot of the studies were regarding men. At one point it does say that women tend to go in to starvation mode more easily, which might explain why suddenly under 1200 calories wasn't good for you. I think your plan for higher calorie intake is a good one, and if I start seeing a slowdown in weight I might do that too since I'm at the 1200 a day thing right now.
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
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    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2012/09/17/ajcn.112.038265

    Mainly women, obese.

    Compares a commercial VLCD of 500 calories, combined VLCD & food of 1200-1500 calories and a restricted normal food diet of 1200-1500 calories.
    After 1 y, mean (±SD) weight changes were −11.4 ± 9.1 kg with the VLCD (18% dropout), −6.8 ± 6.4 kg with the LCD (23% dropout), and −5.1 ± 5.9 kg with the restricted normal-food diet (26% dropout). In an adjusted analysis, the VLCD group lost 2.8 kg (95% CI: 2.5, 3.2) and 3.8 kg (95% CI: 3.2, 4.5) more than did the LCD and restricted normal-food groups, respectively.

    "Starvation Mode" forgot to turn up, again.