Need help understanding water retention

MarineVeteran
MarineVeteran Posts: 21 Member
edited January 26 in Food and Nutrition
I have had water retention issues all my life. I have brought it to the attention of my PCP but it never went further than watch sodium intake. I do watch my sodium intake, keeping it as close as possible to 2500 mgs or less. The other night I pressed in on my shin and the adema was so bad the impression was there well over 5 seconds.

Anyone else have this same issues?

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  • jbruced
    jbruced Posts: 210 Member
    That's known as pitting edema. Things to be investigated; congestive heart failure, liver dysfunction, kidney dysfunction & pulmonary hypertension. Your profile mentions prior surgeries which may have affected your lymphatic system depending on what surgeries you had. Its also possible to get such edema from prolonged sitting. Another thing to check is your blood sodium level. Some people have similar edema with no apparent cause and otherwise good health.
    You might try cutting sodium intake to 1500 to 1600 mg daily and see if that helps.
  • MrsGriffin67
    MrsGriffin67 Posts: 485 Member
    I have the same issues. Sometimes my lower legs/ankles get so swollen they actually hurt. I am in very good physical health other than being overweight. All my tests come back normal. My doctor told me that excessive swelling in the right leg is more dangerous than the left (I don't know why, something to do with congestive heart failure?). I know that when I eat more than 2000 mg sodium I tend to have more issues. Like the previous poster mentioned, sitting for prolonged periods can lead to edema. Some things I have found that work for me is elevating my legs (making sure that my feet are above heart) for about an hour before I go to bed, drinking LOTS of water and just keeping tabs on my sodium intake. EVERYTHING processed typically contains a TON of sodium. Read your labels, you want things that are low in sodium. Try to eat as clean as possible (this is sometimes really hard for me), stay away from lunch meats, soups, fast food, macaroni & cheese, salad dressings. That's the best I can tell you. Feel free to PM if you want some more tips. I know I am not perfect at this but I keep trying. Best of luck in your journey. :flowerforyou:
  • likeabanner
    likeabanner Posts: 88 Member
    Oh you hit a spot with me. I'm a nerd.

    Pretty much, sodium is an electrolyte. 3 main electrolytes of your body: Sodium (Na+), Chloride (Cl-), and Potassium (K+). Sodium and Chloride counteract each other to make a base... which is why one of the most common IV fluids in medicine is Sodium Chloride (same thing with eye wash... it's neutral). The two biggest factors in the fluid balance of your body is the Sodium and Potassium. Sodium retains fluid... it sucks the fluid in leaving the particles of the fluid left out. Ever get thirsty when eating salty foods, or popcorn at the movies? Salt is sucking the water in, making you thirstier. Sodium is a positive ion (hence the Na+), and positive ions attract water molecules.

    Your kidneys also have a huge factor in fluid balance. Fluid balance is also called osmosis. If your kidneys aren't filtering your blood into urine properly, then you could retain fluid... thus causing edema. Do you urinate less?

    Another is a hormonal imbalance. Aldosterone and Cortisol counteract each other. They are both steroid hormones produced by your adrenal glands. Aldosterone regulates Sodium and Potassium. An imbalance in them will certainly throw off Sodium levels, which in turn can cause fluid retention. However, your pituitary gland stimulates the Thyroid gland to stimulate the adrenal glands. You could have a pituitary, thyroid, or adrenal issue if you have an imbalance with hormones!

    The very last thing I can think of is low protein levels in the blood. Proteins help keep the fluid in the bloodstream. If you have a low protein level in your blood (called Total Solids or Total Protein), then you aren't retaining fluid the way you'd like in your blood stream and it goes into your tissues causing edema. More specifically, Albumin (which is produced by your liver) can be super low. That is the MAIN chemical that keeps your blood in check. If your kidneys aren't functioning properly, Albumin can leak out through the tubing of the kidneys (where it SHOULD be retained in the blood) and is expelled in the urine.

    In conclusion, ALL of this can be found in bloodwork. Electrolytes, kidney, liver, and TP values are part of a basic chemistry panel. The others would be an ACTH stim test, or Thyroid panel.

    -Elevated Sodium
    -Low Albumin
    -Low Total Protein
    -Overproduction of Aldosterone
    -Underproduction of Cortisol
    -Kidney failure/damage
    -Liver failure/damage

    Hope this helps!
  • socajam
    socajam Posts: 2,530 Member
    I have had water retention issues all my life. I have brought it to the attention of my PCP but it never went further than watch sodium intake. I do watch my sodium intake, keeping it as close as possible to 2500 mgs or less. The other night I pressed in on my shin and the adema was so bad the impression was there well over 5 seconds.

    Anyone else have this same issues?

    I looked at your diary and agree with "jbruced: that you should cutt back your sodium level to 1500 to 1600 mg daily. At this time, your levels are extremely high and I am sure your doctor will tell you the same. I use to be like you, legs all full of fluid and body heavy with water retention until I took charge, now I have it fully under control. One of the first things I do when buying any food is check the sodium levels (and I have noticed some of the things you are eating are extremely high in sodium). Another thing I do is drink a lot of cranberry juice mixed with water which have helped a lot. (For every 7 ounces of water mix 1 ounce of 100% cranberry juice - bought from Trader Joe's - $3.99 per bottle). For the first couple of days you will be peeing non-stop, but it really works. Good luck.
  • DatMurse
    DatMurse Posts: 1,501 Member
    I have had water retention issues all my life. I have brought it to the attention of my PCP but it never went further than watch sodium intake. I do watch my sodium intake, keeping it as close as possible to 2500 mgs or less. The other night I pressed in on my shin and the adema was so bad the impression was there well over 5 seconds.

    Anyone else have this same issues?

    your water retention can also be related to your obesity(no offense)

    lose weight first then worry about water retention
  • MarineVeteran
    MarineVeteran Posts: 21 Member
    Thank you all for the responses. It's been a year or so since my last blood drawl. I will go get a full workup done again to see where i am at.

    Just wanted to clear something up lol... I know that it's not weight related because even during my years in the military when I was weighing in at 175-180 lbs (6'0"), I still had the same issues (no offense taken DatMurse, :drinker: )

    Thanks again and i will reply back once i get the results of the bloodwork back.
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