Upped Cals & feeling terrible
PopsGils
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So this is how the passed 12 weeks have looked for me, eating around 1200 I was bobbing up and down between the same 2 poxy pounds, so I got fed up of eating salad with no dressing and still staying the same weight, so I decided I had to up my cals or it will be like this forever. I started this 2 weeks ago, annoyingly around the same time as I started taking Yasmin birth control: I have gained 2kgs in 2 weeks on about 1500 cals a day, I am 165cm tall and 26 years old, I am absolutely gutted about this and am feeling really low. Please, any advice or support would be amazing, I feel like I am going nuts. Thanks in advance.
Week beginning: Average Cals per day: Weight
March 25th: 1234 Calories per day: 141 pounds
April 1st: 1305 calories per day: 141.9 pounds
April 8th: 1023 calories per day: 140.4 pounds
April 15th: 1216 calories per day: 140.2 pounds
April 22nd: 1383 calories per day: 139.7 pounds
April 29th: 1111 calories per day: 138 pounds
May 6th: 1221 calories per day: 138.8 pounds
May 13th: 991 calories per day: 138 pounds
May 20th: 1221 calories per day: 138 pounds
May 27th: 1300 calories per day: 138.4 pounds
June 3rd: 1460 calories per day: 141 pounds
June 10th: 1500 cals per day so far 142.6 pounds as of June 12th
Week beginning: Average Cals per day: Weight
March 25th: 1234 Calories per day: 141 pounds
April 1st: 1305 calories per day: 141.9 pounds
April 8th: 1023 calories per day: 140.4 pounds
April 15th: 1216 calories per day: 140.2 pounds
April 22nd: 1383 calories per day: 139.7 pounds
April 29th: 1111 calories per day: 138 pounds
May 6th: 1221 calories per day: 138.8 pounds
May 13th: 991 calories per day: 138 pounds
May 20th: 1221 calories per day: 138 pounds
May 27th: 1300 calories per day: 138.4 pounds
June 3rd: 1460 calories per day: 141 pounds
June 10th: 1500 cals per day so far 142.6 pounds as of June 12th
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Weight increased because of increased glycogen stores. Probably the birth control is messing with your hormones as well.
Btw I'm 26 yo and 135 pounds currently0 -
But you are probably loosing weight at 1500? Not gaining a kg a week on 1500!0
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Don't worry about it, it's definitely not fat you're gaining. It doesn't happen that quickly.0
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Week beginning: Average Cals per day: Weight
March 25th: 1234 Calories per day: 141 pounds
April 1st: 1305 calories per day: 141.9 pounds
April 8th: 1023 calories per day: 140.4 pounds
April 15th: 1216 calories per day: 140.2 pounds
April 22nd: 1383 calories per day: 139.7 pounds
April 29th: 1111 calories per day: 138 poundsMay 6th: 1221 calories per day: 138.8 pounds
May 13th: 991 calories per day: 138 pounds
May 20th: 1221 calories per day: 138 pounds
May 27th: 1300 calories per day: 138.4 pounds
4 week stall. It's a little bit long but, I've had stalls lasting for 3 weeks even though I was in a calorie deficit.
It gets discouraging I know. Might wanna read up on the Whoosh effect:
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/of-whooshes-and-squishy-fat.htmlI
Also, would I be correct to assume that it the TOM toward the end May that might contribute to the water weigh gain.?June 3rd: 1460 calories per day: 141 pounds
June 10th: 1500 cals per day so far 142.6 pounds as of June 12th
Looks like you are doing everything right. Sometime the the scale doesn't show it but, you got to trust the calorie in vs calories out system. I'm pretty sure the scale will reflect it soon.0 -
TOM was 19th May yep, but basically over 12 weeks I have been eating less than 1500 with a grand total loss of nothing cos of my recent gain. IS this weight - if its from the BCP going to stay with me or go away! I literally feel like eating everything in sight I am so upset about all the effort and getting nothing back. Even back in March/April losing 0.5 pounds a week, some weeks only, on 1200 is crazy. So hard to lose and so easy to gain. To be fair I havent eaten as much as 1500 cals in years so I wouldn;t be too suprised if it was fat I have gained. My jeans are super tight and my boobs are supersized0
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Weight increased because of increased glycogen stores. Probably the birth control is messing with your hormones as well.
^^^ this
you will always see weight gain after raising your calories because of glycogen. More glycogen = water weight gain, and this is a good thing as you're supposed to have plenty of glycogen in your system. You see this weight gain even if you're still eating at a deficit. It's only when your glycogen stores are totally full that you will start to see weight loss again (if you're eating at a deficit) or your weight will stabilise (if you're eating at TDEE)
the human body simply does not store fat that quickly.
if your birth control is causing you to feel hungry all the time, or is otherwise interfering with your weight loss, see your doctor and see if there's a different one you could be on that might not have that side effect
Also, I'd recommend not focusing so much on the scale. Exercise, stick with a healthy amount of calories, i.e. a small deficit that's easy to stick to long term, and focus on the tape measure, how your clothes fit and what you look like in the mirror. You've listed a whole bunch of decimal points up there, really the amount of water weight fluctuations you get in the human body means any fraction of a lb is irrelevent. Plus the scales are not that accurate. My barbell lost 0.2lb overnight once. Well, obviously it didn't, but the scale just does not measure point anything of a lb accurately. Your data could be explained entirely by changes in water weight.
You lose fat slowly, and eating the calorie numbers you are, I don't think any of the gains were fat gains. some of the losses were probably fat loss, but also some would be loss of water weight due to normal fluctuations (or more specifically, a combination of fat loss and water loss). And I'd say all the gains were water weight gains, as I don't think you've eaten enough to gain any fat.0 -
. To be fair I havent eaten as much as 1500 cals in years
Whoa, you might want to look into "reverse dieting" or take a "diet break". That's a loooong time of calorie restriction without a break.
Sadly, you might gain even more weight (temporary) doing this. but in the long run this may really help.0 -
Thanks all of you for trying to help me out, I know we do fluctuate often and the scales are the devil, but i also measure and my waist has also gone up over an inch in the past few weeks and I feel heavier, look heavier and my clothes say we are too small for you.
My metabolism is clearly not having a good time as I cant lose weight on 1200 cals. Maybe 0.5 a week and then it will just go up again anyway next week.
SO from here on out, do I stick at 1500 for a while? And how many kilos do I allow myself to gain until i REALLY freak out and come up with another plan?
I know its a long time of restriction, back in 2010 I ate under 1000 cals every single day and maintained at around 50kgs for a long time, then ate a little more and found my way up to 64 but my metabolism seems to still be punishing me. I know this is all quite hard to believe, I also find myself thinking am i eating donuts in my sleep, or underestimating my 150gram pot of yoghurt but sadly there is no silly mistake I am over-seeing. The gaynae told me to give my BCP 2 months to settle in. Brilliant.
Thanks all of you kind people, my boyfriend just doesnt understand and tells me to relax and go for a run if i care so much.0 -
BCP ca be the devil. You are doing the right things, but it may be the combination of the types of food you eat and BCP may be giving you a temporary weight gain
I am at maintenance. When the scale fluctuates up a pound (and it will) I add more yoga and more steps to my day. I continue to tweak my diet to make it more "maintenance friendly". For example, I eat one to two ounces of nuts each day. I switched to the no sugar or salt added variety. I get plenty of salt in other foods and don't need the added sugar. I drink less ice tea, add pure water instead. I eat out a lot for my job, and restaurant food can have a lot of salt.
I also believe whatever makes my core muscles stronger, helps my internal organs function better. Maybe not scientific or backed by some study, but I am a lot less bloated with the added twists and core strengthening exercises I do. I am talking 10-30 minutes a day of yoga or Barre3, and as much walking as I can fit in a day. Standing helps as well.
Good luck, it is an on going challenge for me to eat healthy, sleep enough and stay active, I am makingit as fun as I can.0 -
I had the same exact problem! Everyone was saying it wasnt fat but it totally was. My BF% stayed the same (went up at one point by .6%) but my LBS were going up. I started at 175, then got to 161, then slowly by increasing just like you did I weighted today at 168. Ef that! I have been doing this for 6 months. I gave hgiehr calories a good shot of atleast 3 months, maybe 4. It did not work for me. What sucks though is 1500 should at least be maintinance but it isnt! I gain at 1600. It is so fricken discouraging.0
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Oh dear, so Hbazzell - you may well be confirming that if i stay at 1500 I will only keep gaining, How tall are you and what age?0
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Your changing your calories every single week and expecting to see the change. You need to go longer than a week for you to create an accurate account of what your body will be doing on a certain number of calories. You havent changed much in weight from when you started to now so clearly you can eat more calories. Try to do it for longer than a week and don't freak out and drop your calories as soon as you see a bit of a bump on the scale.0
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Your changing your calories every single week and expecting to see the change. You need to go longer than a week for you to create an accurate account of what your body will be doing on a certain number of calories. You havent changed much in weight from when you started to now so clearly you can eat more calories. Try to do it for longer than a week and don't freak out and drop your calories as soon as you see a bit of a bump on the scale.
^^^ this0 -
Be patient at the 1500-1600 level. I know so many people that upped their calories and had great success but only after about 3-4 weeks of the higher calories.
My sister is one of them. Stuck for 5 months @ 1200. I talked her into trying 1600. 3 1/2 weeks and no change then BAM she started losing again and has been since.0 -
Ok, I hope I'm not repeating myself here but at 165cm and 141lbs you are within your BMI already... You should only be aiming to lose about half a pound a week at this stage and as far as I can see you lost 3lbs in 5 weeks???? So this was perfect.
The birth control pill is going to affect your body massively and really you need to let things settle down for a while before assuming anything,
I would say stay at 1500 cals a day, do some exercise and keep hydrated to counteract the pill effects, weigh once a week and be patient. Give it another month and see where you are...0 -
Your changing your calories every single week and expecting to see the change. You need to go longer than a week for you to create an accurate account of what your body will be doing on a certain number of calories. You havent changed much in weight from when you started to now so clearly you can eat more calories. Try to do it for longer than a week and don't freak out and drop your calories as soon as you see a bit of a bump on the scale.
Yes!
Quit overthinking it. You're going to give yourself an ulcer fretting about it. Change takes a looooooooooong time. I've been steadily recompositioning over two years with a net loss of only about 15 lbs over that time. It's frustrating, sure, but nothing happens overnight and what happens is rarely linear.0 -
Not related to your question but I'd get rid of Yasmin.
I don't know where you are in the world, but it's being linked to deaths in Canada. A friend of mine suffered a near fatal blood clot last year and she was taking Yasmin too..
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2013/06/11/birth-control-pills-yaz-yasmin.html0 -
Do you exercise?0
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I was eating 1300 calls a day, and loosing a pound a week i have recently started to up my calls to 1500/ 1600 and my weight has gone up slightly , but i am going to keep at 1600 and hope eventually my body gets used to eating at this as when im at maintenance which is around 1800 that is what il be eating, its horrible to jump on the scale and see it stay the same or go up but keep at it and im sure we will start to loose again, as eating at 1200 and 1300 cals for the rest of my life is to little0
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it seems that every four weeks your weight goes up, but then comes back down.
truly, a mystery that will remain unsolved!!0 -
Not related to your question but I'd get rid of Yasmin.
I don't know where you are in the world, but it's being linked to deaths in Canada. A friend of mine suffered a near fatal blood clot last year and she was taking Yasmin too..
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2013/06/11/birth-control-pills-yaz-yasmin.html
I was going to post this too!0 -
I'm glad I'm not the only one freaking out about trying to go up in calories! I have been at 1200 calories for months and have not really gained or lost any amount...from what I can find I'm not eating enough...though that's a hard one to understand for a fat person trying to lose weight! Anyhow, I'm upping to 1500 calories to see if this will help me, its very frustrating to get on the scale after hard work and not see anything positive! I'm gonna have my husband hide the scale for a while, up the calories, keep exercising and see what happens! I feel better physically, but emotionally, this stuff can wear a person out!!0
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Your changing your calories every single week and expecting to see the change. You need to go longer than a week for you to create an accurate account of what your body will be doing on a certain number of calories. You havent changed much in weight from when you started to now so clearly you can eat more calories. Try to do it for longer than a week and don't freak out and drop your calories as soon as you see a bit of a bump on the scale.
^^^ this
Agreed. When I up my calories I wait 2-3 weeks before upping them again. And now that I'm eating more the weight is coming off better.
I've never had any issues with birth control, although from what I read it seems a lot of people do. I've been on the pill 8 years and never gained weight from it (also switched brands 3 times). I gained weight because I was lazy and stopped taking care of myself and stopped exercising, started eating out more, and stress. College will do that to you.
I was just taken off of Yasmin because of the increase in death rates and issues. I was taken off 5 months ago and my new pill is even better (less hormones they say, and now my cycle only lasts 3 days instead of 6). I'm not getting the mood swings anymore either, hurrah! I'm on MICROGESTIN FE 1.5/3.0 -
Think of your weight as being a range. You don't weigh 141. You weigh between 138-148. When you were on severly low calories, your body was riding towards the bottom. Now that you have raised them, your body is moving more towards midline. If you binge, you will move towards the top. The range will move as you continue to lose weight.
My advice would be, since you are eating a different calorie level, use the 141 figure as your new measurement. The 138 was a mirage because your calories were too low. Eat the 1500 calories a day, and see if that number is lower in four weeks. If it is, then you can be confident it is working. And you will be a thinner 138 at 1500 calories then you were at 900 calories.0 -
female bodies fluctuate weight all the time. As long as you are eating properly there is no wayt you are realistically gaining weight. Hormones mess up the body, too. If your weight is fluctuating between 3 lbs I wouldnt worry that you have actually gained weight.
I was on an incredibally frustrating plateau that lasted 4 months and I blame that on hormones. My weight stayed pretty much the same but would fluctuate between 143-145 lbs. I knew there was no way I gained any real weight as I never over-eat. You just have to use logic to talk yourself out of the fear you see on the scale.
I'm switching BCP in less than 2 weeks and I am looking forward to it. The past few months I get PMS for 2 weeks and I know that affects the scale. Hell, I woke up on Saturday weighing 145.0 and between the constant peeing from PMS I woke up on Sunday weighing 142.8.
Try weighing yourself twice a week to get a better idea of what is going on witj your body. You can figure out if it is just bloating from some source or water retention from food etc... If you noticed a change when you started your new BCP... give yourself 3 months to adjust to them. Again, if your weight is only fluctuating a few pounds but you are eating properly you will eventually balance out.0 -
Thanks everyone, will stick at it - scale still saying 142. Oh goody! I suppose I should start exercising, eh!0
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