135 pounds on insanity and crossfit , scale no moving!

kaszy
kaszy Posts: 12 Member
Hi all!!
I have started insanity 3 weeks ago ( had to take a week off because I hurt my neck) but with insanity I also do crossfit and hiking sometimes.
I stared noticing changes in my body so my gym friends for now.
I don't know why the judge (my scale) is not moving???
I eat healthy and if I eat out (because sometimes I really want a burger ) I eat only half, but mostly nights are the days I seem to eat, no much carbs or not carbs at all but yes fats.
Does anyone else know why is the scale no moving?
Sometimes I burn 1300 cal and most days at least 500... I eat between 1500-1200 cal day.
So I don't know what's going on? Maybe my eating at night habits ?
Thanks for all your kind support and help
Cheerios
Kaszy

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  • MsPudding
    MsPudding Posts: 562 Member
    Sometimes I burn 1300 cal and most days at least 500... I eat between 1500-1200 cal day.
    So I don't know what's going on? Maybe my eating at night habits ?

    Is the 1500-1200 a day that you're eating gross (i.e. you eat nothing more than that)? If so, that's likely the issue.

    At the figures you've given, at a minimum you're burning 500 in exercise and eating a maximum of 1500, which means 1000 net calories which is likely to be at or around your BMR - or the amount of calories your body needs simply to keep basic functions going. Presumably (hopefully!) you don't have many days where you burn 1,300 and eat 1,200 because that leaves you with a daily calorie intake of -100 calories. If you did that day after day you'd end up very ill.

    In short, if you are only giving your body enough fuel to simply survive, then your body is going to be extracting every ounce of energy from your food it can and temporarily lowering your metabolism by up to 30% because it has to get more efficient to fuel the extra activity expected of it on top of just keeping your organs going. Keep doing that and you will lose weight, but in a very slow and painful way that'll probably leave you feeling like shyte. There'll also be a big danger that when you loosen up and either lower exercise or up calories, for a time your body is going to hang on to every bit of energy and you'll see a weight gain.

    What you need to do is either a) set MFP to match your activity level (which sounds high!) so that it adjusts your daily intake or b) input your exercise into MFP so that your calorie goal goes up for that day and you eat some of them back (calorie burned estimates are just that...estimates...so they may be less or more than you're actually burning so you'd need to experiment to see how many you can eat back and maintain a loss)
  • nabeelakram
    nabeelakram Posts: 10 Member
    Hi I'm no medical expert but do disagree with ms pudding about the metabolism slowing down especially if you are exercising.. When I started off on mfp I was eating the same as you around 1200-1500 a day but was netting down to 800-900 a day. I did this initially for about 8 weeks but the key was being regimental about what I was eating and accurately weighing foods etc. if you end up snacking etc and not logging it doesn't help you so make sure you're not doing that.

    I initially lost around 15kg in 6-8 weeks but in your case maybe you body is still adjusting to your new regime so don't give up and keep going. You yourself should be able to judge if you're eating far too little food from your own energy levels I personally didn't feel I was under eating.
  • 39flavours
    39flavours Posts: 1,494 Member
    Great reply! Just tricky convincing yourself to eat more to lose more!
  • jimmmer
    jimmmer Posts: 3,515 Member
    You're doing a massive amount of exercise and not eating enough to fuel it.

    You can either a) keep eating at your current level and cut way back on your exercise; or b) Eat way more to support your activity level.
  • jimmmer
    jimmmer Posts: 3,515 Member
    Hi I'm no medical expert but do disagree with ms pudding about the metabolism slowing down especially if you are exercising.. When I started off on mfp I was eating the same as you around 1200-1500 a day but was netting down to 800-900 a day. I did this initially for about 8 weeks but the key was being regimental about what I was eating and accurately weighing foods etc. if you end up snacking etc and not logging it doesn't help you so make sure you're not doing that.

    I initially lost around 15kg in 6-8 weeks but in your case maybe you body is still adjusting to your new regime so don't give up and keep going. You yourself should be able to judge if you're eating far too little food from your own energy levels I personally didn't feel I was under eating.

    And you were eating at the level and simultaneously doing two hardcore exercise programmes? Because, Insanity or Cross-fit alone are pretty full on and require decent eating and maximum rest. Doing them combined is for the truly athletic. Unless you're eating enough, sleeping enough and getting adequate rest days - this will be unsustainable. You'll end up injured, tired, irritable. Your stress levels will shoot up and your workouts will end up half-*kitten*. If you're going to do more half-arsed workouts, why not just do fewer, higher quality workouts? You'll get twice the results in half the time.

    But you keep giving stupid advice. I just hope no one listens to it!
  • grimendale
    grimendale Posts: 2,153 Member
    I agree that you need to eat more (I'm 195 and eating 2200 calories a day on Insanity), but the reason your scale isn't moving is likely due to water retention in your muscles due to the intense nature of the exercises you've mentioned. When you first start exercising, or drastically increase the intensity, your muscles generate microtears as part of the musclebuilding process. Your body retains water as part of the inflammation response for up to three weeks to aid in healing. Water is quite dense, particularly when compared to fat, and can equal or even offset any losses from fat. Once your body adjusts to the routine, it will stop retaining water and you'll see losses again. However, if you're not providing enough fuel for yourself under that intense a calorie burn, your body is going to pull a lot of its energy from lean muscle tissue. This is because it takes more calories to maintain muscles than fat tissue, and either can be broken down as fuel. If you don't eat enough, you will lose weight, but less of it will be fat and you can do serious damage to your metabolic rate. I've done what you're doing (I was netting 500 calories or less) and I lost weight, but I had a fairly high body fat percentage. It took me several years to undo the metabolic damage I did to myself and gained 100 lbs in the process (which I have now had to lose again, but in a healthy manner). My weight is now 10 lbs heavier than it was then, but I have about 5% less body fat. Give yourself the ability to succeed.
  • kaszy
    kaszy Posts: 12 Member
    Thanks everyone for the reply!!:))
    I have a mfp account and a polar f4 to track my calories during my workout, I have an idea of how much I'm burning when /if I don't work out as much.
    I started insanity 3 weeks ago and recently I have been doing crossfit twice to three times a week along with hiking for 2 hours once a week ?.
    I think because I just started perhaps my food might be off? Or the calories are less in the mfp website ?
    I have noticed a change in my body shape and the scale remains the same... I do feel great though and it's becoming part of my lifestyle.
  • KAS0917
    KAS0917 Posts: 172 Member
    But on a day where you're burning 1300 calories, how many are you eating? Are you eating 1200-1500 gross or net? Meaning, are you eating 2,500 calories, burning 1,300, and therefore have a net calorie intake of 1200? Or are you eating 1200 calories, burning 1300 calories and have a net total of -100 calories for the day?

    If it's the latter, you need more food. You want your MFP NET calories to be around 1200 (or more, depending on your size).