Does anyone NOT count their Exercise calories??
skymel14
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Does anyone NOT count their Exercise calories??
I ask because it seems to me like it would be counter-productive. Let's say I am on 1200/calories a day, then I see that with exercise I suddenly have 400 calories left to eat. If I don't eat them that creates a greater deficit, right? Is there harm in NOT counting exercise, like just putting it in as 1 calorie burned sans what the treadmill/etc says?
Any thoughts/comments are appreciated!!
I ask because it seems to me like it would be counter-productive. Let's say I am on 1200/calories a day, then I see that with exercise I suddenly have 400 calories left to eat. If I don't eat them that creates a greater deficit, right? Is there harm in NOT counting exercise, like just putting it in as 1 calorie burned sans what the treadmill/etc says?
Any thoughts/comments are appreciated!!
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Our bodies need fuel... if you're eating, for instance, 1200 calories a day (which isn't enough for me as it is) and then you burn 400 calories through exercise your net calories would be 800 calories.
The recommended daily intake for a 1 year old baby is 900 calories. So eating 800 calories is really unhealthy.
Your body needs fuel and it needs to repair. Even if you eat back all your exercise calories there is still a serious POINT to exercising...:
1) Exercise builds up your lean muscle. Lean muscle burns more calories per day than fat does. The more lean muscle you have the more calories you'll be burning just by being alive
2) An exercised body is a healthy body. For now and for the future. Do you want to be the old lady that's stuck at home or do you want to be the old lady who still gets out and about when she's 85?
3) Being fit is awesome. Muscle is awesome. Not only will you FEEL great, but you'll LOOK great.
4) Following on from 3.... FIT is the new skinny.0 -
Our bodies need fuel... if you're eating, for instance, 1200 calories a day (which isn't enough for me as it is) and then you burn 400 calories through exercise your net calories would be 800 calories.
The recommended daily intake for a 1 year old baby is 900 calories. So eating 800 calories is really unhealthy.
Your body needs fuel and it needs to repair. Even if you eat back all your exercise calories there is still a serious POINT to exercising...:
1) Exercise builds up your lean muscle. Lean muscle burns more calories per day than fat does. The more lean muscle you have the more calories you'll be burning just by being alive
2) An exercised body is a healthy body. For now and for the future. Do you want to be the old lady that's stuck at home or do you want to be the old lady who still gets out and about when she's 85?
3) Being fit is awesome. Muscle is awesome. Not only will you FEEL great, but you'll LOOK great.
4) Following on from 3.... FIT is the new skinny.
^^^^THIS!!!!!!
ETA: I eat between 1700-2000 calories!!!0 -
The main 'trick' to losing weight is to eat less than your body uses. There are a lot of variable , but eating ways less the your body needs isn't a good idea. Neither is losing weight too fast. For me the purpose of exercise is to get fit, strong, maintain muscle and bone density and look better. When you use the mfp method and tell it how much you want to lose,it takes what you would burn in everyday life (from what activity setting you pick) and takes a number of calories from that to help you lose weight. I believe it's 250 calories less a day to lose 1/2 a pound and so on. When you add exercise into that you increase the deficit. This can be a good thing, but not so good if you don't have much to lose, are on really low base calories, or workout a lot. It's hard to maintain muscle and get enough nutrients if you eat too few calories. So using the mfp method it's better to eat more when you work out. I've heard that the online calculator over estimates burns and even with a hrm it's not always perfect, so you might need to play with it a bit. I generally always try to at back exercise calories unless I truly am not hungry. After those days, I find I am hungry the next day. Even now I am on maintenance if I am hungry I will eat more.0
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Our bodies need fuel... if you're eating, for instance, 1200 calories a day (which isn't enough for me as it is) and then you burn 400 calories through exercise your net calories would be 800 calories.
The recommended daily intake for a 1 year old baby is 900 calories. So eating 800 calories is really unhealthy.
Your body needs fuel and it needs to repair. Even if you eat back all your exercise calories there is still a serious POINT to exercising...:
1) Exercise builds up your lean muscle. Lean muscle burns more calories per day than fat does. The more lean muscle you have the more calories you'll be burning just by being alive
2) An exercised body is a healthy body. For now and for the future. Do you want to be the old lady that's stuck at home or do you want to be the old lady who still gets out and about when she's 85?
3) Being fit is awesome. Muscle is awesome. Not only will you FEEL great, but you'll LOOK great.
4) Following on from 3.... FIT is the new skinny.
Yes, well explained too.0 -
The main 'trick' to losing weight is to eat less than your body uses. There are a lot of variable , but eating ways less the your body needs isn't a good idea.
Exactly. You have to find a medium ground.
I did some trial and error... I now have a diet (and by diet I mean what I eat as opposed to a fad) that I'm never hungry on (if I am hungry I EAT MORE) and yet I'm still losing weight and my body is toning up gradually.
Dear OP... you can, of course, do whatever you wish. But I recommend you eat back as many of those exercise calories as you can stomach. Listen to your body - if you're hungry, eat. Just keep the foods healthy!0 -
I don't count them BUT i count the exercise to my general activity level in the formula increasing it from very light activity to moderate activity. This only makes sense because i do exactly the same program every week.
if you want to eat only 1200 and don't eat back exercise cals however you will loose weight (and fast probably) but you will end up with a very unattraktiv body composition that will also be very hard to maintain.0 -
Sort of. I'm using the TDEE activity method- I amend the calories to 1=100, 2=200, so I can track how much I have done, and I watch my net calorie level for the week.0
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TDEE method? What is that?
MFP put me on 1200 calories/day... what should I be on then?
Thank you all!0 -
TDEE is your total daily energy expenditure- and it includes your exercise cals... enter in your info here http://iifym.com/tdee-calculator/ --and then subtract no more than 20% to find the amount u should eat for weight loss, which will no doubt be much higher than 1200, but then u dont eat your exercise cals. if u use what MFP says, eat them back. make sense?0
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MFP put me on 1200 calories/day... what should I be on then?
Thank you all!
Very much depends on your height and build and what you do in your day to day life. I'm 5 ft 11 and I work with kids - I'm ALWAYS on my feet, picking kids up and down, crawling around on the floor etc etc. 1200 calories left me dizzy and exhausted. 1600 calories is perfect for me.
I would spend a day eating whenever you're hungry (but make sure you ONLY eat healthy food - snack on fruit - try not to eat too many carbs as well) and see how many calories you hit... and then I would stick to around that amount for 2 - 4 weeks and see what happens to your body.
I actually levelled out at 1200....my body stopped losing weight. The second I upped to 1600 I started losing again0 -
I don't count them BUT i count the exercise to my general activity level in the formula increasing it from very light activity to moderate activity. This only makes sense because i do exactly the same program every week.
I do this. I wanted a flat number of calories per day rather than calories that fluctuate depending on what I logged as exercise.0 -
It depends on how far over goal you are, or more accurately how high your BF% is. I am just starting to count mine. I did not count them while I still had a lot to lose.0
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So then I need to:
- Increase my calories to around 1400
- Try to include more exercise if possible
- Avoid carbs??0 -
Personally, my doctor who is supervising my weight loss told me NOT to eat my exercise calories back. I am not to the point yet that I work out consistently, but I do think that if you are vigorous with exercise then you should probably account for those calories burned and eat at least some of them back. At this time, I am only able to walk a few miles a few times a week and do some resistance-band training. I don't feel I burn that much, and I keep to my calorie goals. Don't starve your body, but don't obsess over the deficit. Good luck with everything!
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TDEE method? What is that?
MFP put me on 1200 calories/day... what should I be on then?
Thank you all!
MFP only "puts you on" 1200 if you choose "lose 2lbs per week" and sedentary, especially if you have quite a lot to lose.
Go to http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/ and find out your BMR/TDEE and eat between those numbers. I have a lot of MFP friends who lose weight steadily on 2000 calories and they are very close to their goal. It's not a race or Biggest Loser. It's supposed to be a healthy, sustainable lifestyle change0 -
Never logged exercise, never logged alcohol ... Somehow I trust they will cancel each other out0
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I believe it is extremely counterproductive to automatically eat back your exercise calories. Most people are eating more than they think and not burning as many calories as they believe through exercise. The calculations (BMR, TDEE, calorie burn) are often inaccurate. If you're working out very hard and are hungry, then sure, eat a small but filling snack, say, a handful of nuts, and keep track of your weight on the scale to make sure that you still are creating an appropriate deficit and losing.0
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TDEE method? What is that?
MFP put me on 1200 calories/day... what should I be on then?
Thank you all!
MFP only "puts you on" 1200 if you choose "lose 2lbs per week" and sedentary, especially if you have quite a lot to lose.
If you are short, and already at a low weight it also may give you 1200. 1200 is just a starting point. Some women need to go below that to lose. You can't generalize and you have to use your own judgment after observing how your body responds to diet and exercise.0 -
TDEE method? What is that?
MFP put me on 1200 calories/day... what should I be on then?
Thank you all!
MFP only "puts you on" 1200 if you choose "lose 2lbs per week" and sedentary, especially if you have quite a lot to lose.
Go to http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/ and find out your BMR/TDEE and eat between those numbers. I have a lot of MFP friends who lose weight steadily on 2000 calories and they are very close to their goal. It's not a race or Biggest Loser. It's supposed to be a healthy, sustainable lifestyle change
Thank you very much!!0 -
I believe it is extremely counterproductive to automatically eat back your exercise calories. Most people are eating more than they think and not burning as many calories as they believe through exercise. The calculations (BMR, TDEE, calorie burn) are often inaccurate. If you're working out very hard and are hungry, then sure, eat a small but filling snack, say, a handful of nuts, and keep track of your weight on the scale to make sure that you still are creating an appropriate deficit and losing.
I agree! That was my mindset as well. Thank you!0 -
i go on an abwave and exercise bike daily and it counts my clories for me i don't until the end of the day how many calories i have left0
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After a lot of research and talking with trainers and nutritionists, IMHO it is very important that you eat enough calories. I was not eating near enough and exercising my butt off and didn't lose an ounce for 3 months! AMAZING that when I started MFP and ate the calories they recommended AND my exercise calories I started losing. Our bodies go into starvation mode. Eat them!0
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i found when exercising and not eating the calories back i didn't loose weight. so i always have them now its and incentive to move about more and i can eat more. you still have the deficit. Eat them up.0
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did you read any of the many posts about WHY you need to eat those calories? didn't think so. creating too big a deficit is NOT a good thing, unless what you want is to damage your metabolism and probably regain the weight within a year or so. If that's what you have in mind, have at it.0
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did you read any of the many posts about WHY you need to eat those calories? didn't think so. creating too big a deficit is NOT a good thing, unless what you want is to damage your metabolism and probably regain the weight within a year or so. If that's what you have in mind, have at it.0
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Eat them back, I do and my weight loss is small but steady and more importantly sustainable0
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While I realize that it is important to eat enought to fuel your exercise ... I don't like the mindset that "eating back your calories" can lead to. It's too much like "rewarding yourself with food" becaue you exercised. Some of us with weight problems have those problems because of unhealthy relationships with food and I don't think that using it as a reward is a good idea. I know that is NOT what the "eating it back" philosophy is actually about, but I think it might be risky for people who already have problems with their relationship with food.
I prefer to think in terms of weeks rather than individual days and being sure that I am getting enough nutrition on a regular basis to provide the fuel for the lifestyle I want to lead (that includes exercise on most days). As long as I get enough fuel over the course of a couple of days, it doesn't matter if the intake and output matches up perfectly every day. If I exercise that day, great ... but I'm not going to turn around and reward myself with a food treat -- I will have my sensible meal as I would on any other day and let it "average out over time."0 -
If you're following MFP's suggestions, you should eat them back. MFP gives a lower initial calorie goal than other calorie counting sites or guidelines would because it assumes you will be eating more when you exercise.
For instance, To lose one pound a week, MFP would suggest I eat about 1400 calories. I typically burn between 200-600 calories from exercise. Let's go with 400 as an average. That would give me a total of 1800 calories.
A site that estimates my TDEE would tell me I need to eat about 2300 calories at my current exercise and activity level to maintain my weight. To lose one pound a week, I'd take 500 calories off that amount and I'd be at 1800 calories, which is exactly what I'd get using MFP's estimates.
If I didn't eat my exercise calories, I wouldn't have a 500 calorie deficit, I'd have a 900 calorie deficit. That's about 40% below my TDEE. That's pretty huge. Most people suggest eating 10-25% below the TDEE.
Think of it in terms of money... If you got a 10-25% decrease in your salary, you could probably find a way to cut costs and comfortably live. If you had a 40% decrease in your salary, you'd have a really hard time paying your bills. Food is your salary, and your body needs it to function properly.0 -
I believe it is extremely counterproductive to automatically eat back your exercise calories. Most people are eating more than they think and not burning as many calories as they believe through exercise. The calculations (BMR, TDEE, calorie burn) are often inaccurate. If you're working out very hard and are hungry, then sure, eat a small but filling snack, say, a handful of nuts, and keep track of your weight on the scale to make sure that you still are creating an appropriate deficit and losing.
The scale can be a fairly bad indicator of whether or not your diet is working when you consider all the different variables that can affect it. I would never use scale weight as the only indicator to determine an appropriate deficit.0 -
I got to goal by eating 2000 calories every day and not eating back exercise calories0
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