Question for those with depression
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I've never been to a doctor myself (but did have to take my son in for anxiety attacks) but I do know I have some issues myself. I exercise a LOT everyday. My endurance isn't great, so I do several small workouts each day (I'm a SAHM with a home gym, I realize that may not work for many people). No matter how I'm feeling, it's really hard to say "I can't do 20 minutes" ... so I do 20 minutes 5-6 times a day. Slow and steady. I don't feel the crushing depression I hear many talk about, but I really wonder what would happen if I STOPPED exercising. I know it helps me to do it.
As for the anxiety ...mine is related to driving the car (anything other than just the basic around home stresses me out completely). I can usually avoid situations without too much complications, but it does come up ... just had to deal with that this weekend0 -
Hi, its not free but Pilatesod.com is pretty good, pilates for all levels and workouts from 10 minutes up.
There are loads of short vids on youtube and prob some on 4shared too. I am doing 30 day Shred and have done target toning dvds9target toning for beginners is good) in the past, they are broken up in to 10 minute sections too so you can do just one, combine a couple you like or on really good days do the whole thing.
A while ago I told myself to stop thinking of exercise in terms of so many time a week as a goal as I always felt defeated if I didn't manage what I had planned. Focused on doing something 'today' if I can manage and I want to. Doing something once or twice a week was much better than the nothing I was doing while trying to plan 3 times a week.
I found i was then being more consistent (1-2 times a week) then felt like doing more anyway.
The fact that you are thinking about exercising is a good thing, and the crap workouts or runs are just as important in building up strength and endurance (even if they dont feel it at the time!)0 -
Thank you all for the advice. I didn't think I'd get so much support so quickly.
I should've mentioned it in my first post, but I've had depression and generalized anxiety disorder for almost 11 years now. I've been on a lot of different medications and have seen many therapists, all to no avail.
My plan is to workout at home using DVD's or videos online.
Besides being overwhelmed, I'm easily discouraged, because I've already lost 50 lbs, but I'm unable to maintain the level of activity that I used to do (strength 3x/week, intense cardio 5-6x/week) due to bad knees and sciatica. Even walking for a measly 20 minutes is too much on some days. I feel like I'll never be able to lose anymore weight with such low-impact exercise and that it's pointless to keep trying.
Chair aerobics, chair yoga, and chair strength training. There are a lot of ways to take the pressure off your knees.0 -
Maybe you have adrenal fatigue. It can give depressed mood among other things like chronic fatigue. Look into it0
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Overcoming depression and anxiety is hard. Actually I don't know if you ever really overcome it, but you can learn to live with it.
You say depression in your topic, but then mention anxiety in your post. Two different things that often go together. My first answer is what worked for me. I won't put it here because it generally starts a big debate, I'll just say that it's in my profile.
Depression sucks. Literally and figuratively. It sucks the desire to do anything out of you. Unfortunately, beyond medication, the best treatment for depression it so to something. Which, of course is circular, because the depression is making it hard (nearly impossible) to do something. With the help of a friend, who texted me every Monday, Wednesday and Friday morning to encourage me, I went and walked. 10 minutes out, turned around and 10 minutes back. At that time that was about the only thing I could do. Now I'm doing it on my own, and for 45 minutes to an hour. Basically, you have to force yourself. You will find that sometimes doing something doesn't come from motivation. Motivation comes from doing something.
Anxiety is usually caused by an irrational fear. Often we don't even know what it is. If you feel anxious about exercising, there is (probably) some irrational thought in your mind that is telling you something bad will happen if you exercise. "Something bad" is a pretty broad area. Whatever that is, you need to figure out. It's not always easy. Think about it and see what you can come up with. Then start to challenge that irrational thought with rational thoughts. Again not always easy. This is where a friend or a counselor can help you. They can help you both identify the thought, and then come up with rational counter-thoughts. One trick here is repetition. I've used signs and posters with phrases that counter my irrational thinking. Putting them up where I see them often, my brain sees them and gradually the rational thought will start to over come the irrational thought.
I barely touched on medicine. Frankly, I personally am not to enamored with state of mental health care these days. Mostly because I did a lot of talking and took a lot of medication and made very, very little progress. I will not, however, suggest that you don't seek out a doctor or therapist. Medication and therapy work well for a lot of people. It just didn't do much for me.
Without knowing more detail there isn't much more to say. Get up and do something. Make yourself if you have to. Identify and challenge those irrational thoughts. Go slow. Pushing yourself to hard will often times cement the irrational thoughts, not help you challenge them.
Hope some of this helps anyway. Feel free to message or friend me if you want to talk more. I've been dealing with these things pretty much all my life. I'm certainly no doctor, or expert. Just a guy on the internet. But I do have some experience in the matter.
This, this, this, a thousand times this. At my worst I had attempted suicide twice and my therapist (who was an idiot and a con artist) thought I was bipolar. I personally think I have borderline personality disorder. All this to say, I find it very difficult to do daily activities. But this poster is completely right. I started to feel better when I started to make myself do things. Go back to school. Go to the museum or zoo. Eat right and exercise. I don't feel like I used to and I rarely contemplate suicide.
It also helps to have people in your life who are supportive. If you have some of those people, speak with them and you might find they are going through some of the same things. I found out my best friend from college was dropping weight too, so now we hold each other accountable.
I also agree with this poster on deciding to see a therapist. I won't reccommend it to you because it is not for everyone. I have seen two therapists and neither helped me. One told me my husband was going to be abusive and that I shouldn't move out of Alabama. We're been happliy married for two years and I have a great job (maybe I should get back to it...) The other therapist really didn't see anything wrong with me. They once put me on medication but I did not feel different at all. I continued to have panic attacks. I realized that my change had to come from within. I got the impression that if I didn't have schziophrenia, then I wasn't going to get treated. Our mental health system is a complete joke.
Anyway, please do what's best for you. I've never seen/heard anyone complain that excerise made them more depressed or anxious (maybe the disappointment of results, but never the physical act.) Inside, or outside, do what's best for you. At first, just moving is important. I do P90 and the point at the beginning is to get used to the moves and move even if you don't do everything as hard and as fast as they do. It's ok to take breaks if you feel exhausted. So just pick something that works for you, get used to it, and then keep going. I can't tell you how many times a few months would go by and I would think, "I could have lost 20lbs by now." But I wasn't changing anything. I finally got off my rear, lost 7 pounds in the past month, and I feel great. I still feel depressed and anxious, but I have better tools now.
I hope that helps!0 -
If you like dancing maybe you should try zumba there are low impact moves that you can incorporate, but still burn tons of calories, and you can do it at home. There are lots of videos on you tube, it may take you a sec to catch on that way, but you will really enjoy it if you like to dance at all. I go to the local churches and take the free and three dollar classes, and it about feels up my whole week. The only day I can't find a class for is Friday, but back to you needing low impact workouts. I suggest this to you because one of my instructors mothers was well over three hundred pounds when I started doing zumba about two years ago, and she had a lot of issues with her legs and things, and couldn't do the more vigorous moves we were doing, but they modified the jumping and some of the harder moves for her and the weight just started falling off. She is half of what she weighed when I first started.0
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Wow, some of the things in your post, I would have sworn I wrote them. You are so right about our mental health system being a joke. I am dealing with the cost issues, I have great medical insurance through my place of employment, but my co-pay for the mental health is so expensive I can't afford the treatment I have been told I need. I have (as I stated earlier) PTSD. Which at first I thought was multiple personality disorder or something along that line. I bounced around from clinic to clinic medication to medication, all while suffering from severe panic attacks, nightmares, and personality swings to the point where my husband was over it!
Finally in February I was at my breaking point and ended up in the mental hospital for a few days, when it hit my....this is not my life! I came to the conclusion that for me, not anyone else, but for me, the medication was making my symptoms more severe. I finally had gotten a great therapist who I am suppose to see once a week because of the severity of my issues, but the co-pay is a hundred dollars a visit, needless to say I don't see her once a week, but I had to let the medication go. I was on Zoloft,ambilify,ambien, for my PTSD...vyvanse and Adderall, for my ADD,and it was all to much. I was contemplating suicide almost daily, and barely getting out of bed. Now, I am coming back to myself and it is an awesome feeling to know I can do this!! and so can the rest of you! maybe we have different ways of dealing, maybe we need the medicine, maybe we don't, it just depends on you, but either way we were built for struggle....mental and physical and WE CAN do it!!!0
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