Weight Watchers and My FitnessPal

I initially did WW but find counting calories works better (and is free!)....i think MFP is the best calorie counting app around. I personally would stick with MFP. You dont need to do numerous things...track your calories, move more, get enough sleep and stay hydrated.

I have done WW in the past, but MFP has more pros - larger and easier database, it's free and the advice and support on here is far far better than on the WW site

I did Weight Watchers 3 years ago and lost 60lbs. I gained 24 back (just got complacent.) I'm now doing MFP and have lost 8lbs. MFP is better to me because it's free, its database is waaaay more expansive, and it's easier to log calories than points, especially if you don't eat the exact serving sizes of things. I think it would be really difficult to do both programs together, because you're going to be logging twice, two difference numbers: calories for MFP and points for WW. Not to mention, all the extras you end up buying with WW, like the books that are updated annually, WW branded snacks with the point value printed right on the package, etc. I have purchased 2 electronic food scales from WW, because after buying the first one, they revamped the program. After buying the second one, they did it again! You don't HAVE to buy the extras with WW, but the extras make the program easier.

I lost 20kg (44lbs) doing WW (not using MFP at all) and I've lost just about 20kg tracking on MFP alone. Roughly the same time period to lose the same amount - around 5 - 6 months for each 20kg. I logged maybe 5 days doing both back at the start of this year when I first decided to try MFP. I had had a break from WW though and gained some weight back (6.6kg/14lbs). I was just following the WW programme and hardly lost anything in the first month. Main difference to me is I'm more aware of my macros with My Fitness Pal and I can account for my exercise better. With WW I kept running out of weekly exercise points. I never ate them back anyway but it irritated me. And WW couldn't explain the "why" behind many of their recommendations. I won't go back to WW now, I don't see why I should pay for something I find inferior. WW was also SO repetitive at the meetings! There's only so much you can learn and you may as well be applying it doing MFP and getting support from people in here.

As for what else I do besides MFP and exercise - well, I log everything in MFP and I exercise. I have adjusted MFP to custom calories based on my TDEE but if you're fairly new to this then the standard MFP set up should work just fine for you. I'm 79lbs down from my starting weight now, it's getting a bit harder to lose. Main things really are just log everything and exercise!

I'll add, the days I logged on here when I was doing WW I wound up eating around 1300 - 1500 calories, I think back then MFP gave me 1490 before exercise.

I didn't read the second part of your post. Along with MFP currently, I do the "8 Hour Diet." It's a fasting-based diet. It's not starvation. You actually get your entire day's calories in during an 8 hour timeframe. So I work 3rd shift. I eat from 4pm until midnight. Then I fast until 4pm again. Read up on the diet. The benefits are plentiful to this kind of eating, but I personally do it as an obstacle to my binge eating. I was doing fantastically all day and night on my diet, only to blow it all as soon as I walked into the door after work. Now, because it's during my fasting period, I just head upstairs, shower, & go straight to bed, without stepping foot in the kitchen. This has helped me tremendously.