Confused about what counts as exercise!
ashleyisgreat
Posts: 586 Member
Hi, guys. I'm new to this, and I have seen some conflicting info here about what we should log and what is just daily activity. I am set to "sedentary," and I REALLY am sedentary. There are days when I don't do anything except get up to make food and go to the bathroom. Eeek. Trying to slowly change that!
Anyway, I did some pretty intense housecleaning the other day and I searched the forums to see if I should log it. I saw tons of people saying "if it's not part of your everyday activity, log it." I also saw people saying "if you didn't work up a sweat, don't count it." I ended up logging it, but now I'm a little confused about what counts.
Do I always need to be sweating to count it as exercise? If I walk around at the mall or something for 2 hours, do I count that? I am not working up a sweat by any means, and my heart rate probably stays pretty low, but it's definitely outside of my normal day-to-day activity. Count it?
Thanks for any input you might have! I am learning so much about nutrition and exercise here, so I really appreciate anything you might add.
*EDIT* Sorry for posting this twice!
Anyway, I did some pretty intense housecleaning the other day and I searched the forums to see if I should log it. I saw tons of people saying "if it's not part of your everyday activity, log it." I also saw people saying "if you didn't work up a sweat, don't count it." I ended up logging it, but now I'm a little confused about what counts.
Do I always need to be sweating to count it as exercise? If I walk around at the mall or something for 2 hours, do I count that? I am not working up a sweat by any means, and my heart rate probably stays pretty low, but it's definitely outside of my normal day-to-day activity. Count it?
Thanks for any input you might have! I am learning so much about nutrition and exercise here, so I really appreciate anything you might add.
*EDIT* Sorry for posting this twice!
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Are you afraid that you're losing weight too fast? Then count it.0
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Well, I really just want to make sure that I am consistently hitting my calorie goal every day. If some things are "exercise," but other things aren't, then that will throw off my totals.
I am here first and foremost to eat healthier, but I definitely want to lose weight. I am not in it to lose weight quickly, though, and I don't mind taking it really slowly. More than anything, I want to make sure I'm not overeating or undereating.0 -
I'm no expert, but if it gets your heart rate up then I'd count it. Just be careful because MFP tends to vastly overestimate cals burned. I'd recommend either investing in a heart rate monitor or, if you're cheap like me, taking your heart rate manually and then finding a calculator to plug it into to find out calories burned.
Keep in mind though that it's all estimates...nothing is solid.0 -
I have my setting on Sedentary as well, but after getting my fitbit (which calculates my activity level by recording how many steps I take...etc.), I've realized my job isn't as sedentary as I thought it was, since I always burn few hundred more calories than on my days off (if I don't do any kind of exercise). So, yes. I think just a leisure walk, or even a light to moderate amount of cleaning and such should be counted as calories burned. You should just try to be as honest as you can be on any activities you log, and see how that is affecting your weight loss. I wouldn't dwell too much on being exact with the calculations and drive yourself crazy. It's a lifestyle change, so any small change you make (eating healthier or getting more active) will ultimately help your goal.0
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I walk all day, I walk everywhere. It's part of my normal day every day. I count it as exercise even though it is a daily thing. I workout every day as well, I sure as hell count that despite it actually being part of my daily routine.
Sweat is never an indicator of working out, I sweat in my sleep.
I class hanging the washing on the line as exercise, only cause I walk 200mtrs before hanging one sock, back 200 then back with the next item...and so on.... for about an hour or until everything is hung up. I then take it off like that. It's a daily thing but it's exercise.
People will tell you what NOT to log, but really it's up to you. If it's working for you then why do people have such a problem with it? I have myself set at sedentary still, just because that's best for me & anything over being still as a rock all day is doing something.0 -
MFP gives you a baseline, which you set as sedentary. So in reality, any activity over that could then be something you can account for. Now, you could buy a HR monitor. WalMart even has some affordable models. That will give you an idea from before to after of how many calories you burned. I agree with the previous posters about some of these things being overestimated by MFP. I always wince when I see people burn as many calories mowing the yard for an hour than I burn running for that same hour....0
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don't log it.0
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Thanks for the advice. I actually do own a heart rate monitor, and I've put it through the ringer these past few years. I keep forgetting to wear it if I'm just going out to do some shopping. I guess if I do log something like that, I will just put in fewer minutes, since MFP tends to overestimate.
I am really, really sedentary right now, and I know that's pretty bad. I'm a grad student and it's summer break, so some days I find myself browsing FB, MFP, and/or reading all day long. NO movement! I really need to move more!0 -
I only log things like cleaning if they are way above and beyond the ordinary, like cleaning out the attic or basement.0
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Different people do different things. That's the beauty of MFP. If you ask 20 people how they log, you'll probably get 30 answers.
The trick is to find what works best for you. What are your main goals? Losing weight? Becoming more fit and healthy? Once you've decided exactly what your main goals are, you can decide how your daily actions fit into that goal, and your logging.
Me, personally, I don't worry much with logging food. But I'm all about the workouts. So I personally log workouts that are designed specifically to be workouts. House cleaning, vacumming, furniture moving (unless it's really intense), those things I don't log. Lawn mowing, I log. Because it's quite the workout. And stretching. Yeah, it sounds nutty, but I log stretching.
In the meantime, there are tons of people who log housecleaning, and it fits into their MFP goals just fine.
My two cents.0 -
What trijoe said!
Figure out what works for you, and then stick with that. Don't worry about what other people log.
I have mine set to sedentary. I work a desk job, and between the job and the commute, and being exhausted and sitting in front of the computer or boob toob when I get home, I am sitting for at least 11-13 hours a day. But M-F, I go to the gym before work for 70-90 minutes of working out. On saturday and sunday, I don't workout, but I'm active during the day. If I don't count my walks, gardening, housecleaning, I'll never stick to my calorie goal on those days. So I log everything. It's working for me! I've averaged 1 pound a week loss for the past 2.5 months.0 -
To be on the safe side, you don't want to log every single activity that you do.
There is a risk that MFP will put your calorie allowance too high and you'll stop losing weight if you eat back all of those calories and hit a maintenance point. This is especially a concern as people near their goal weight and the calories they need to sustain their bodies decreases. Remember all of the forum posts where people are near their ideal weight and complain that they're not losing weight anymore ? That's because the margin of error is much tighter as your caloric needs go down. A 300 - pound person could potentially cut out soda and lose 20 pounds over the course of a few months. But a 150 or 200 - pound person overestimating their activity by a couple hundred calories could actually gain weight.
I am up on my feet all day but I don't count it as exercise. If something really elevates my heart and is done for a prolonged period - for me I set that at about 30 minutes or more at a heart rate of 130 or more beats per minute - then I log it.
It doesn't matter if you eat every calorie that you've earned from exercise. What matters is that you can consistently and comfortably lose weight each week and get closer to goal. Too little food and your hunger will be out of control - too much and you'll "plateau." Tweak the formula based on results.0 -
I am up on my feet all day but I don't count it as exercise. If something really elevates my heart and is done for a prolonged period - for me I set that at about 30 minutes or more at a heart rate of 130 or more beats per minute - then I log it.
You are going to have a hell of a time getting it up there when you are like me. My resting heart rate is 39bpm so for me to even get it to 100 is a damn hard task. Getting it to 130bpm is really hard. The fitter you are the more you have to work. You are oging to end up logging nothing & counting nothing as exercise like that.
I'm on my feet & walking ALL day cause that is the only way I stay out of pain. If I sit for more than a few mins it hurts, so I only sit about 3 times a day if I'm lucky. I count it ALL as exercise cause I'm not just sitting down doing nothing.0 -
Here's the thing- when you count it as exercise it =more calories to eat. So when your counting things you do every day-or on a normal weekly thing around the house, running errands etc-that's more calories your going to then eat that week- which equals slower weight loss.
SO unless it's something i've done as "exercise" specifically to get fitter and healthier- i don't count it. Do i still do all the other stuff? of course- but i don't count it on MFP. SO for example every day i walk 10 minutes to get to class from parking- i don't count that- i do that- it's part of my life. even though that may be 20-40 minutes of walking a day- it's part of my normal get through the day routine. Now if i go for a HIKE for 20 minutes? im' going to count that- that's something not in my normal routine/daily required stuff0 -
Hi Ashley. I hope I can help a bit. You want to find out what your resting metabolic rate is. There are lots of online calculators available. This number will tell you how many calories your body uses during a 24 hour period doing absolutely nothing.. just living. Since your life style is sedentary, your required calories for the day will be very close to this number. Every calorie above and beyond it, will have to account for. So if the goal is to lose weight, you'll have to burn more than you consume. You'll have to use your best judgement (and conscience) what constitutes exercise. If you feel an activity merits it, go ahead and log it.. Ultimately our body will be the judge, not any of us on here. Good luck with your effort. I`m just starting on here too, trying to lose two year old leftover maternity weight... Blah.0
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Hi Ashley. I hope I can help a bit. You want to find out what your resting metabolic rate is. There are lots of online calculators available. This number will tell you how many calories your body uses during a 24 hour period doing absolutely nothing.. just living. Since your life style is sedentary, your required calories for the day will be very close to this number. Every calorie above and beyond it, will have to account for. So if the goal is to lose weight, you'll have to burn more than you consume. You'll have to use your best judgement (and conscience) what constitutes exercise. If you feel an activity merits it, go ahead and log it.. Ultimately our body will be the judge, not any of us on here. Good luck with your effort. I`m just starting on here too, trying to lose two year old leftover maternity weight... Blah.
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I am up on my feet all day but I don't count it as exercise. If something really elevates my heart and is done for a prolonged period - for me I set that at about 30 minutes or more at a heart rate of 130 or more beats per minute - then I log it.
You are going to have a hell of a time getting it up there when you are like me. My resting heart rate is 39bpm so for me to even get it to 100 is a damn hard task. Getting it to 130bpm is really hard. The fitter you are the more you have to work. You are oging to end up logging nothing & counting nothing as exercise like that.
I'm on my feet & walking ALL day cause that is the only way I stay out of pain. If I sit for more than a few mins it hurts, so I only sit about 3 times a day if I'm lucky. I count it ALL as exercise cause I'm not just sitting down doing nothing.
I think that Metacognition is using her numbers as an example, and not to be taken as literal. She said that she counts something "that really elevates my heart"... the numbers are her's, & everyone needs to discover "their heart rate numbers"... but I could be wrong.
That's what I do also.
I have a problem where my heart rate is either at resting/light - or at anaerobic/redline. It's strange, I can rapid walk till I'm red in the face, and my heart rate will be at around what's considered light, but as soon as I begin to run.... BAMM - up to anaerobic/redline! I can't seem to keep my heart in the aerobic range unless I constantly run/walk/run/walk...
So sorry for hijacking this thread, but this is something that's bothered me for a while - just wondering if any of you reading this have had the same issue? (perhaps I should start a thread about this!)0 -
I have a Fitbit, so if I do something (even housecleaning) for a significant period of time where I'm not taking a lot of steps then I do log it. If I load the dishwasher I don't write it down. If I spend 3 hours cleaning (sweeping, dusting, vacuuming, etc.) then I will often log it. I have my own calorie range I try to stay in for food, regardless of MFP tells me I have left to eat, so I'm not eating those calories back. Mostly I'm logging them so when MFP syncs with my Fitbit it reflects that I wasn't as sedentary as my Fitbit thinks I was.
Whatever you choose to do, be consistent. If you're logging it & you're eating those calories back & you're not losing weight, that's the first place to look.0 -
Since the tendency for most people is to underestimate the food caloric intake and overestimate the exercise caloric burn, I would not log that as part of my exercise.0
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Since the tendency for most people is to underestimate the food caloric intake and overestimate the exercise caloric burn, I would not log that as part of my exercise.0
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if you want to be specific, exercise is anything where the body needs to be powered by it's cardio energy system, lactic acid energy system, or ATP-CP energy system.
If you're using your fatty acid energy system to do things, then it's not exercise, it's activity.
So things like cleaning, slow walks, shopping, cooking, brushing teeth, very light weights for dozens of reps, waitressing, work, driving a motorbike, singing, or anything else thats very light intensity is NOT exercise. But it IS activity. If every calorie is important to you to know what you're expending, then i guess by all means count it. but the calorie burn from these activities will ALWAYS be about 100% or greater overestimated so do so with caution.0
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