A challenge for you: Spot the reason I'm not losing weight

Also, you mention fruit. I only eat fruit once a day, and I try to pick a high quality antioxidant fruit like berries or cherries. And I always, always eat it with protein, which slows down the blood sugar rush. If you snack, try to keep it protein and fat, like nuts or jerky. If you do eat fruit, stay away from bananas and papayas and kiwis and pineapple -- the sugary ones. Sugar and refined carbs make us fat, and fruit should only be a luxury for those who are trying to lose weight. Even though it's got antioxidants, it's a weight-loss killer for me. And always eat cheese or Greek yogurt (full fat or at least 2%) when eating your fruit, so that protein goes down with it.

First of all there other nutrients in the above named fruits that are beneficial to the body such as Potassium and Vitamin C. To not eat them because of the amount of sugar in them and to tell some one to not do it is just wrong. It is like one of my co-workers telling me I am not going to lose any weight because I choose to eat one Lean Cuisine. We cannot tell people what they can and cannot eat. If people want to not give up a particular food such as bananas then substitute it for its less sugary cousin the Plantain. While back I found Plantain chips with sea salt. They had been dehydrated. If anything you can always use the sugary fruits instead brownies, cakes, and cookies for desert.

Well then why the hell do we bother giving advice.

Here's the truth:

Fruit is godawful on a low-carb diet, especially if you are trying to do Keto. In fact, fructose is one of the worst things you can consume, even on a carb up, since it refills liver glycogen rather then muscle glycogen... you can consume one piece of fruit about 1 hr before your depletion workout, and thats it...

But since you are a girl, and most likely don't want to "gain muscle" and just lose fat, here are some suggestions.

1) Get a real DEXA scan to see your current BF%. No Jamoke weight scales that underestimate your BF% (When i got my dexa it said 23%, my scale says 13.7% you do the math).

2) Calculate your macros accurately from your DEXA. You can see exactly what you need to eat every day. There are many calculators online on how to do this... but you first must need an accurate BF%.

3) Get a food scale, and measure everything you are taking in. Keep a pad right next to your weight with a pen.

4) keep it Simple. I limit myself to Broccoli, Nuts, Chicken, and my special keto sauce of mayo and siracha.

Once you have a daily routine, its much easier just to get a specific amount. IE: I need to eat 12 oz of chicken today, with 2 containers of broccoli, and 3 servings (72) almonds.

5) Be conservative and use your actual TDEE with a 1.0 scale. Aka you sit on your *kitten* and do nothing for the whole day. <-- Too many people are overestimating their TDEE.

6) Do a 500 cal deficit. Slow and steady wins the race. Going too fast will screw with your leptin. If you want to body hack, do a CKD carb up, eat a +1000 cal one day, which will "trick" your leptin levels to go back to pre-diet levels... but you may want to only do this once you have your low carb diet down.

Btw. Low carb is not under 100g. That's almost what I use to eat normally... Low carb is around 30g or lower, for girls may even go down to 20g. I am hitting around 25g a day.

Drink 3 liters of water a day.

One when you first waken up.
One by the end of lunch.
One by the end of tea.

You will pee lots. But you will lose weight.:happy:

I'm a big snacker and eat 2-3 times the daily recommended amount of fruit a day. A half pound of berries here, 2 bananas in my smoothie, small watermelon are normal portions of fruit I eat throughout the day. I also eat dinner late at night. I'm also 90 pounds.

According to many on myfitnesspal, that should have kept me from losing 50 pounds...it didn't.

Everyone's bodies are different. However its safe to say that for the general population, meal timing, fruit and when you eat your carbs are not the culprits of weight gain. Nor is it "too many carbs and sugar" that will keep fat. Losing weight is about calorie deficit, it's as simple as that. Try to weed out all of the confusion, sit down and be really honest and diligent about evaluating your energy needs, your food intake, and the appropriate amount of macro's and calories you are getting.

In the perfect world, sure. BUT the main flaw is that your body metabolism adjusts when you cut down your calories. its a huge reason why a lot of dieters fail... cause when they jump back to their normal pre-diet intake, their metabolism is still bogged down from "starvation mode".

Thus, why many people have great success when they have a cheat day once a week, to boost their metabolism, and the most successful usually incorporate a high degree of cardio also to boost metabolism.

my trainer has us stay away from all alcohol beverages while on her program....she says that alcohol increases our body to store fat and not lose weight...i would try to stay away from it

Drink 3 liters of water a day.

One when you first waken up.
One by the end of lunch.
One by the end of tea.

You will pee lots. But you will lose weight.:happy:

so, let me see.. if I drink 3 liters of water, but still net 1500 calories over my tdee.. I'll lose?

how bout no.

Drink 3 liters of water a day.

One when you first waken up.
One by the end of lunch.
One by the end of tea.

You will pee lots. But you will lose weight.:happy:

so, let me see.. if I drink 3 liters of water, but still net 1500 calories over my tdee.. I'll lose?

how bout no.

I suppose technically you'd lose 3 liters worth of weight once you peed it all out.

I don't have a solution but I am a 19 year old college student and I've never gone out drinking. So yes, there are those who don't... just saying.

I'm a big snacker and eat 2-3 times the daily recommended amount of fruit a day. A half pound of berries here, 2 bananas in my smoothie, small watermelon are normal portions of fruit I eat throughout the day. I also eat dinner late at night. I'm also 90 pounds.

According to many on myfitnesspal, that should have kept me from losing 50 pounds...it didn't.

Everyone's bodies are different. However its safe to say that for the general population, meal timing, fruit and when you eat your carbs are not the culprits of weight gain. Nor is it "too many carbs and sugar" that will keep fat. Losing weight is about calorie deficit, it's as simple as that. Try to weed out all of the confusion, sit down and be really honest and diligent about evaluating your energy needs, your food intake, and the appropriate amount of macro's and calories you are getting.

In the perfect world, sure. BUT the main flaw is that your body metabolism adjusts when you cut down your calories. its a huge reason why a lot of dieters fail... cause when they jump back to their normal pre-diet intake, their metabolism is still bogged down from "starvation mode".

Thus, why many people have great success when they have a cheat day once a week, to boost their metabolism, and the most successful usually incorporate a high degree of cardio also to boost metabolism.

High amounts of cardio with a large calorie deficit can backfire, and will not necessarily help metabolism. Lifting and creating lean muscle will definitely do so.

True, but unless you never lifted in your life (noob gains) you aren't going to increase your lean body mass much. I do a lot of LISS, and yes if your deficit is way too big your metabolism will slow down. Which is why I am big, big believer on the carb up day.

Also, you mention fruit. I only eat fruit once a day, and I try to pick a high quality antioxidant fruit like berries or cherries. And I always, always eat it with protein, which slows down the blood sugar rush. If you snack, try to keep it protein and fat, like nuts or jerky. If you do eat fruit, stay away from bananas and papayas and kiwis and pineapple -- the sugary ones. Sugar and refined carbs make us fat, and fruit should only be a luxury for those who are trying to lose weight. Even though it's got antioxidants, it's a weight-loss killer for me. And always eat cheese or Greek yogurt (full fat or at least 2%) when eating your fruit, so that protein goes down with it.

Avoid fruit? Are you high?

QFT.

This thread is the poster child of bad information. Not just the anti-fruit message. I feel for the OP.

Sarauk and some others mentioned this above, and it's very well worth repeating, you need to be logging accurately. That doesn't mean "eyeballing" your food or calling the portion that they give you in the cafeteria or at a restaurant a serving. They're often several times more than a serving. You need to learn to weigh all solids and measure all liquids. That includes everything that goes in except water. I'd say that is probably the biggest reason that people fail when they think they should be losing.

Snacking is not going to be the issue...I am the queen of snacking and have lost 184 pounds. Is the calorie range correct for you? How did you work it out? MFP? If so how much did you set it to lose? ie 1 pound or 2 pounds etc? Or are you doing TDEE-20% How much are you trying to lose? Are you weighing and measuring everything? While the foods dont look high in sodium I personally would track sodium as well.

Hold the phone! You lost 184 pounds?!?! That is amazing! Congratulations and good for you and all that jazz. Well done!

Exercise more:drinker:

yep do this and i promise you will see a difference


If you always do what you have always done, then you will always get what you have always got

Also, you mention fruit. I only eat fruit once a day, and I try to pick a high quality antioxidant fruit like berries or cherries. And I always, always eat it with protein, which slows down the blood sugar rush. If you snack, try to keep it protein and fat, like nuts or jerky. If you do eat fruit, stay away from bananas and papayas and kiwis and pineapple -- the sugary ones. Sugar and refined carbs make us fat, and fruit should only be a luxury for those who are trying to lose weight. Even though it's got antioxidants, it's a weight-loss killer for me. And always eat cheese or Greek yogurt (full fat or at least 2%) when eating your fruit, so that protein goes down with it.

Avoid fruit? Are you high?

QFT.

This thread is the poster child of bad information. Not just the anti-fruit message. I feel for the OP.

Sarauk and some others mentioned this above, and it's very well worth repeating, you need to be logging accurately. That doesn't mean "eyeballing" your food or calling the portion that they give you in the cafeteria or at a restaurant a serving. They're often several times more than a serving. You need to learn to weigh all solids and measure all liquids. That includes everything that goes in except water. I'd say that is probably the biggest reason that people fail when they think they should be losing.

Again, the posters here telling me I'm "high" and "crazy" and "wrong" for suggesting she cut out fruit are men who seem to be pretty trim. Once again, for women -- especially women with high BMI -- eliminating sugars (and yes, that means fruit) may be the only way to lose weight. This is the case with me. I'm not suggesting she go her whole life without eating fruit.

Clearly dieting is not a one-size fits all solution. I'm offering one possible answer. I didn't realize these threads were so confrontational if anyone suggests something that you don't agree with. What happened to support, encouragement and an open-mind? I'm not giving her unhealthy information. I've taken two nutrition classes and read more books than I can even count. Trust me -- she's not going to die if she cuts out fruit for a few months.

Once again, for women -- especially women with high BMI -- eliminating sugars (and yes, that means fruit) may be the only way to lose weight. This is the case with me. I'm not suggesting she go her whole life without eating fruit.

the bolded part is the issue. "only" is a word that shouldn't be paired with "may be."

Clearly dieting is not a one-size fits all solution. I'm offering one possible answer. I didn't realize these threads were so confrontational if anyone suggests something that you don't agree with. What happened to support, encouragement and an open-mind? I'm not giving her unhealthy information. I've taken two nutrition classes and read more books than I can even count. Trust me -- she's not going to die if she cuts out fruit for a few months.

...and the folks that are giving the OP advice that is different than you have lived it much more than two nutrition classes and books. trust me, you're not gonna die if your advice isn't the best... just grin, smile, accept that you gave your .02... and move on.

that said, I'd trust Sara twice as far as she could throw me... and she could chuck me pretty far, I'd wager.

Also, you mention fruit. I only eat fruit once a day, and I try to pick a high quality antioxidant fruit like berries or cherries. And I always, always eat it with protein, which slows down the blood sugar rush. If you snack, try to keep it protein and fat, like nuts or jerky. If you do eat fruit, stay away from bananas and papayas and kiwis and pineapple -- the sugary ones. Sugar and refined carbs make us fat, and fruit should only be a luxury for those who are trying to lose weight. Even though it's got antioxidants, it's a weight-loss killer for me. And always eat cheese or Greek yogurt (full fat or at least 2%) when eating your fruit, so that protein goes down with it.

Avoid fruit? Are you high?

QFT.

This thread is the poster child of bad information. Not just the anti-fruit message. I feel for the OP.

Sarauk and some others mentioned this above, and it's very well worth repeating, you need to be logging accurately. That doesn't mean "eyeballing" your food or calling the portion that they give you in the cafeteria or at a restaurant a serving. They're often several times more than a serving. You need to learn to weigh all solids and measure all liquids. That includes everything that goes in except water. I'd say that is probably the biggest reason that people fail when they think they should be losing.

Again, the posters here telling me I'm "high" and "crazy" and "wrong" for suggesting she cut out fruit are men who seem to be pretty trim. Once again, for women -- especially women with high BMI -- eliminating sugars (and yes, that means fruit) may be the only way to lose weight. This is the case with me. I'm not suggesting she go her whole life without eating fruit.

Clearly dieting is not a one-size fits all solution. I'm offering one possible answer. I didn't realize these threads were so confrontational if anyone suggests something that you don't agree with. What happened to support, encouragement and an open-mind? I'm not giving her unhealthy information. I've taken two nutrition classes and read more books than I can even count. Trust me -- she's not going to die if she cuts out fruit for a few months.

I am a woman, and I eat a butt-load of fruit every day, as well as a bit more than my body weight in grams of protein (I am very active) and am always in the red on fats as well ... all while being within my calories for the day ... btw, I am a very glean eater (my diary is open). Do I look fat to you? This is obviously a rhetorical question.

EDITED BECAUSE I SUCK AT TYPING ON MY KINDLE.

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Clearly dieting is not a one-size fits all solution. I'm offering one possible answer. I didn't realize these threads were so confrontational if anyone suggests something that you don't agree with. What happened to support, encouragement and an open-mind? I'm not giving her unhealthy information. I've taken two nutrition classes and read more books than I can even count. Trust me -- she's not going to die if she cuts out fruit for a few months.

This!