are steamed soybeans healthy?

_noob_
_noob_ Posts: 3,306 Member
in Food and Nutrition
Just curious

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  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    Bro I hear those'll give you boobs.
  • InForBacon
    InForBacon Posts: 1,508 Member
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  • calibriintx
    calibriintx Posts: 1,741 Member
    Bro I hear those'll give you boobs.

    And you'll get your period.
  • _noob_
    _noob_ Posts: 3,306 Member
    Bro I hear those'll give you boobs.

    And you'll get your period.

    I already am kinda tender in that general area...
  • simmonsk4
    simmonsk4 Posts: 5 Member
    If you are a guy, stay away from soy, it promotes estrogen production and is a low quality protein.
  • _noob_
    _noob_ Posts: 3,306 Member
    If you are a guy, stay away from soy, it promotes estrogen production and is a low quality protein.

    would the protein quality matter if I ate it concurrently with a complete protein, say salmon?
  • katy_trail
    katy_trail Posts: 1,992 Member
    your uterus will fall out :noway:
  • Lecterman
    Lecterman Posts: 97 Member
    If you are a guy, stay away from soy, it promotes estrogen production and is a low quality protein.

    Wow
  • simmonsk4
    simmonsk4 Posts: 5 Member
    You should stay away from soy completely, and if you are eating a high quality protein such as salmon, then you shouldn't be worried about getting protein somewhere else at that time.
  • PheonixRizing
    PheonixRizing Posts: 131 Member
    The problem with soy products is a few things, it does contain estrogen which is bad for both men and women. Here are a few links that will explain all that to you:

    http://wellnessmama.com/3684/is-soy-healthy/

    Then some scientific stuff:

    http://www.westonaprice.org/soy-alert/studies-showing-adverse-effects-of-soy

    Basically the answer is no it isn't good for you and limiting or removing it from your diet altogether is beneficial. You have to read read read all your labels for the hidden stuff.

    Good luck to you.
  • grimendale
    grimendale Posts: 2,153 Member
    Soy is perfectly healthy. Examine the source of those studies. The organization that sponsored that research actively promotes that animal products are necessary for a healthy life and so have an active interest in showing soy to be harmful. For every study showing problems, other show it to be beneficial. The article on livestrong gives a more balanced approach.

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/381474-is-soy-healthy-to-eat/

    If you are a prepubescent girl, you might want to avoid soy, but there is no evidence that it is harmful to boys and men, and can in fact reduce the risk of prostate cancer.

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/455553-is-soy-milk-healthy-for-men/

    Soy is the latest boogeyman. It was eggs for a while, then it was wheat, now it's soy. As long as you don't eat lab rat portions (which are beyond the bounds of any realistic diet for a human being), you're fine. Soy has been a staple of numerous cultures for centuries, and has had no statistically significant ill effect on the populace.
  • sunlover89
    sunlover89 Posts: 436 Member
    I'd stick with edamame beans (young soy).
  • Vivian06703188
    Vivian06703188 Posts: 310 Member
    All soybeans have dangerous amounts of estrogen in them and are not healthy food. If you research it on the internet all soy products should not be consumed anymore.
  • Vivian06703188
    Vivian06703188 Posts: 310 Member
    well it is a personal choice I guess but with all the breast cancer and man boobs showing up for soy products I'm keeping it out of my diet.
  • Vivian06703188
    Vivian06703188 Posts: 310 Member
    you guys are silly
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    Bro I hear those'll give you boobs.

    That's why I eat them.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    Just curious

    Do you mean edamame? Whether they are healthy for you would depend on the rest of your diet and allergies, etc. But they are not an unhealthy food in general. Plus, they are really tasty.
  • hexrei
    hexrei Posts: 163
    Soy is perfectly healthy. Examine the source of those studies. The organization that sponsored that research actively promotes that animal products are necessary for a healthy life and so have an active interest in showing soy to be harmful. For every study showing problems, other show it to be beneficial. The article on livestrong gives a more balanced approach.

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/381474-is-soy-healthy-to-eat/

    If you are a prepubescent girl, you might want to avoid soy, but there is no evidence that it is harmful to boys and men, and can in fact reduce the risk of prostate cancer.

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/455553-is-soy-milk-healthy-for-men/

    Soy is the latest boogeyman. It was eggs for a while, then it was wheat, now it's soy. As long as you don't eat lab rat portions (which are beyond the bounds of any realistic diet for a human being), you're fine. Soy has been a staple of numerous cultures for centuries, and has had no statistically significant ill effect on the populace.

    Soy promoting estrogen production is not a "boogeyman" factor, and it's not new either. We've known this for a good ten years+
  • Justagirl1978
    Justagirl1978 Posts: 64 Member
    It's also worth remembering that the majority of soy is now genetically modified.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    I think we should stop using the term "genetically modified" and use the term "genetically improved."
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
    Or maybe "molecularly upgraded."
  • kellykw
    kellykw Posts: 184 Member
    For all of the negative info on soy out there, there is also positive. If you're concerned, do some research and decide for yourself. The American Cancer Society seems to think soy is a pretty good thing.

    http://www.cancer.org/treatment/treatmentsandsideeffects/complementaryandalternativemedicine/dietandnutrition/soybean
    Soybean products are promoted for their protective properties against breast, prostate, colon, and lung cancer.
    As a protein source, soybean products are promoted as a healthier alternative to meat and as an aid to weight loss. Soy products are also used to lower cholesterol and blood pressure, and to relieve symptoms of menopause and osteoporosis. Soy protein in a diet low in saturated fat and cholesterol is also promoted as a method to help reduce the risk of heart disease.

    As long as labels can be trusted, I have no problems at all finding non-gmo soy. There seems to be way more of it out there now than gmo-soy.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    I think we should stop using the term "genetically modified" and use the term "genetically improved."

    Very little soybeans sold in stores are GMO anyway. Most GMO soy is used in additives for processed foods. It's rare to find soy milk, edamame (fresh or dry roasted), dried soy beans, tofu, etc that is not non-GMO and usually organic.
  • grimendale
    grimendale Posts: 2,153 Member
    Soy is perfectly healthy. Examine the source of those studies. The organization that sponsored that research actively promotes that animal products are necessary for a healthy life and so have an active interest in showing soy to be harmful. For every study showing problems, other show it to be beneficial. The article on livestrong gives a more balanced approach.

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/381474-is-soy-healthy-to-eat/

    If you are a prepubescent girl, you might want to avoid soy, but there is no evidence that it is harmful to boys and men, and can in fact reduce the risk of prostate cancer.

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/455553-is-soy-milk-healthy-for-men/

    Soy is the latest boogeyman. It was eggs for a while, then it was wheat, now it's soy. As long as you don't eat lab rat portions (which are beyond the bounds of any realistic diet for a human being), you're fine. Soy has been a staple of numerous cultures for centuries, and has had no statistically significant ill effect on the populace.

    Soy promoting estrogen production is not a "boogeyman" factor, and it's not new either. We've known this for a good ten years+

    It doesn't promote estrogen production, it contains an estrogen-like product. And I didn't deny that. If you actually looked at the cited sources, that fact was clearly acknowledged. My point is not that there are no effects, but that the effects are blow out of proportion for the vast majority of the population. Eggs do in fact contain cholesterol, and too much is bad for you. That doesn't make their demonizing a decade ago any less of a boogeyman factor. Soy "contains phytoestrogens called isoflavones that may mimic the activity of the hormone estrogen in your body. The effects of soy isoflavones on human estrogen levels are complex. Soy is safe for everyone to consume in moderation and can have a modest effect on estrogen levels". That doesn't make the recent 'omg, soy is poison, don't eat it your you'll grown boobs' response any less of a boogeyman factor.

    http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/eating-soy-increase-estrogen-production-2870.html
  • hexrei
    hexrei Posts: 163
    Soy is perfectly healthy. Examine the source of those studies. The organization that sponsored that research actively promotes that animal products are necessary for a healthy life and so have an active interest in showing soy to be harmful. For every study showing problems, other show it to be beneficial. The article on livestrong gives a more balanced approach.

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/381474-is-soy-healthy-to-eat/

    If you are a prepubescent girl, you might want to avoid soy, but there is no evidence that it is harmful to boys and men, and can in fact reduce the risk of prostate cancer.

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/455553-is-soy-milk-healthy-for-men/

    Soy is the latest boogeyman. It was eggs for a while, then it was wheat, now it's soy. As long as you don't eat lab rat portions (which are beyond the bounds of any realistic diet for a human being), you're fine. Soy has been a staple of numerous cultures for centuries, and has had no statistically significant ill effect on the populace.

    Soy promoting estrogen production is not a "boogeyman" factor, and it's not new either. We've known this for a good ten years+

    It doesn't promote estrogen production, it contains an estrogen-like product. And I didn't deny that. If you actually looked at the cited sources, that fact was clearly acknowledged. My point is not that there are no effects, but that the effects are blow out of proportion for the vast majority of the population. Eggs do in fact contain cholesterol, and too much is bad for you. That doesn't make their demonizing a decade ago any less of a boogeyman factor. Soy "contains phytoestrogens called isoflavones that may mimic the activity of the hormone estrogen in your body. The effects of soy isoflavones on human estrogen levels are complex. Soy is safe for everyone to consume in moderation and can have a modest effect on estrogen levels". That doesn't make the recent 'omg, soy is poison, don't eat it your you'll grown boobs' response any less of a boogeyman factor.

    http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/eating-soy-increase-estrogen-production-2870.html


    You made it sound like it was a cultural boogeyman, not "one guy in this thread said it" boogeyman. You should quote him next time or something so we know you were referring to him specifically.

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