Can I really EAT MORE????
erikalanem
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So I have been wondering why I'm not losing more weight and kept reading I could be eating too few calories...
I had set my own goal of 1300 net calories on MFP, and usually go a 100-200 over...my BMR is like 1400 and I am moderately active, walking the dogs, gardening and working out at least 3 times/week...A lot of calculators are saying I should be eating like minimum 1600 (some have said up to 2200!!) calories a day...is that NET??? I would LOVE to eat more calories every day, but just can't believe it would end in anything but weight gains...
My diet isn't "clean" as you can see in my diary...I try to eat lots of healthy food, but also indulge in moderation...I figure that as long as I stay under my calories...
I think the "answer" is that I need to indulge less, drink more water, work out harder, and keep my calories low...any advice from y'all??
I had set my own goal of 1300 net calories on MFP, and usually go a 100-200 over...my BMR is like 1400 and I am moderately active, walking the dogs, gardening and working out at least 3 times/week...A lot of calculators are saying I should be eating like minimum 1600 (some have said up to 2200!!) calories a day...is that NET??? I would LOVE to eat more calories every day, but just can't believe it would end in anything but weight gains...
My diet isn't "clean" as you can see in my diary...I try to eat lots of healthy food, but also indulge in moderation...I figure that as long as I stay under my calories...
I think the "answer" is that I need to indulge less, drink more water, work out harder, and keep my calories low...any advice from y'all??
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What is your current age, weight, and height?
NET calories are when you eat your goal calories + what you burn exercising to maintain the same deficit.
Example: You eat 1600 calories today and burn off 300 at the gym, your NET is going to be 1600-300 = 1300 calories.
If you were to eat 1300 then burn 300, your NET would only be 1000 calories for the day, too low.0 -
Ill be 30 this week...5'6" and 165....yes, that is how I understood NET...I have been thinking lately to just eat 1300 and burn as much as I can without eating it back...or this other school of thought of eating more...eating more sounds like more fun! Just can't believe it would get me to my goal0
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I would say I am tempted to believe if you are not losing weight now and do nothing different except increase your calories and you would gain weight rather than lose it.0
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5'6" 165lbs 30yrs old
Your Total Daily Energy Expenditure (TDEE) set on Sedentary is 1843, this is what you could eat everyday to maintain your current weight.
Your estimated BMR is: 1,485 calories/day
It is not recommended to eat below your current BMR while losing weight. Eating below one's BMR can result in more lean muscle mass loss and plateauing.
As long as you eat below your TDEE on Sedentary calculated above, you should be losing weight.
I would recommend eating closer to 1485 calories a day and eating your exercise calories. This would give you a daily deficit of 358, a 1lb loss every 9.7 days. It may be slower than you want, but the result will be better.
Maintaining as much lean muscle mass as possible while losing weight will make you look better once you reach your goal.0 -
5'6" 165lbs 30yrs old
Your Total Daily Energy Expenditure (TDEE) set on Sedentary is 1843, this is what you could eat everyday to maintain your current weight.
Your estimated BMR is: 1,485 calories/day
It is not recommended to eat below your current BMR while losing weight. Eating below one's BMR can result in more lean muscle mass loss and plateauing.
As long as you eat below your TDEE on Sedentary calculated above, you should be losing weight.
I would recommend eating closer to 1485 calories a day and eating your exercise calories.
This except if you set to sedentary then EAT BACK THE EXERCISE. It sounds like you are NOT sedentary, but if you do setit to sedentary then log the exercise and eat the calories back.
So:
Option 1:
Set MFP to sedentary and Eat:
1485 + exercise calories
Option 2:
Set to light active/active (depending on which description fits) and eat what it says there but never below 1485
if you have been netting (eating - exercise = net) below your BMR for a while you will see an initial gain in weight but it will start going down again.
Check this group out: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/forums/show/3834-eat-more-to-weigh-less or http://www.myfitnesspal.com/forums/show/7965-in-place-of-a-road-map ..or both0 -
5'6" 165lbs 30yrs old
Your Total Daily Energy Expenditure (TDEE) set on Sedentary is 1843, this is what you could eat everyday to maintain your current weight.
Your estimated BMR is: 1,485 calories/day
It is not recommended to eat below your current BMR while losing weight. Eating below one's BMR can result in more lean muscle mass loss and plateauing.
As long as you eat below your TDEE on Sedentary calculated above, you should be losing weight.
I would recommend eating closer to 1485 calories a day and eating your exercise calories.
This except if you set to sedentary then EAT BACK THE EXERCISE. It sounds like you are NOT sedentary, but if you do setit to sedentary then log the exercise and eat the calories back.
So:
Option 1:
Set MFP to sedentary and Eat:
1485 + exercise calories
Option 2:
Set to light active/active (depending on which description fits) and eat what it says there but never below 1485
if you have been netting (eating - exercise = net) below your BMR for a while you will see an initial gain in weight but it will start going down again.
Check this group out: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/forums/show/3834-eat-more-to-weigh-less or http://www.myfitnesspal.com/forums/show/7965-in-place-of-a-road-map ..or both0 -
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I would recommend eating closer to 1485 calories a day and eating your exercise calories.
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sorry, somehow missed your last sentance in which case.. WHAT SHE SAID0 -
I was eating 1300 and ignoring exercise calories. I lost weight but it seemed really hard. then 6 months ago I tried something new. I set my account to maintain, this way my calories remaining for the day shows my calorie deficit. a daily deficit of 500 cals should lead to a 1lb weightloss. during the last 6 months I kept my deficit between 250-750 and I have steadily lost 1lb a week. This last month as I reached my last 15lbs I decided to reduce my deficit to 250 to lose .5lb a week.
Im 5'3 136.6lbs and my TDEE according to fitbit is 2000. I started at 200lbs 10 months ago. ive averaged 1600 cals the last 3 weeks, doing 1 week at maintenance calories at the moment then going to 1750 as of Monday to lose the last 10lbs
oh and I browsed your diary and a few daiys I see your sodium is really high. If I eat too much sodium or too much carbs I can gain up to 6lbs.....
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I have read that in order to break a plateau it can be helpful to alternate high and low calorie days so maybe you do a day of 1200 and a day of 1600 that still averages around your BMR. But now your metabolism doesn't have time to adjust to the consistent calories at 1300. I haven't tried it but it might be worth a shot, it would also allow you to indulge on alternating days.
Another thing to keep in mind is accuracy in your logging, it is really important. For example the other day I guessed the amount of walnuts I put in my salad. put it in my diary and saw it was 60 calories. I thought maybe I should double check so I weighed it with my little digital scale and re-entered it.... 310 calories!! with calorie dense foods like nuts and oil it is extra important to measure/weigh.
Also I'm not sure if you eat back your calories but maybe give that a rest for a while and only do so if you feel hungry. The MFP exercise calories are notoriously wrong.
hope that helps!0 -
OK, last question, how terrible would it be if those extra 150 calories every day were...lets say...more cake??? JK...kind of....no really, can it be?0
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Your diet only shows a few days of recent logging. Try logging your food consistently for a few weeks before attempting to adjust your calories. As it is, how can you possibly know how much you're eating?0
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I have been thinking lately to just eat 1300 and burn as much as I can without eating it back...
BAAAAAAAAD ideaor this other school of thought of eating more...eating more sounds like more fun!
Much better idea! NET 14-1500 cals, if not more, would probably work fine!0 -
5'6" 165lbs 30yrs old
Your Total Daily Energy Expenditure (TDEE) set on Sedentary is 1843, this is what you could eat everyday to maintain your current weight.
Your estimated BMR is: 1,485 calories/day
It is not recommended to eat below your current BMR while losing weight. Eating below one's BMR can result in more lean muscle mass loss and plateauing.
As long as you eat below your TDEE on Sedentary calculated above, you should be losing weight.
I would recommend eating closer to 1485 calories a day and eating your exercise calories. This would give you a daily deficit of 358, a 1lb loss every 9.7 days. It may be slower than you want, but the result will be better.
Maintaining as much lean muscle mass as possible while losing weight will make you look better once you reach your goal.
Can you calculate mine for me? I tried to calculate mine, and it said my BMR was over 3,400 calories to maintain my current weight, and to lose I shouldn't reduce it to no more than 1,000 calories....which still puts me at 2400 calories a day!!!! I am not comfortable with eating that much!!!! Maybe I did something wrong!!!!
CW 237.2
height : 67 inches
age: 340 -
This is the site many people, including myself, have used to calculate calorie needs: http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/
Now if you enter your activity level and include the exercise you do every day, the calorie number it gives you will be the TOTAL amount of calories you need to eat. Not net.
As far as what to eat, technically it doesn't matter. In theory, you could eat 1500 calories of cake or 1500 calories of veggies and have the same weight loss. (Google "the twinkie diet" for an example). Many people find that they do see better fat loss results when they eat healthier foods, though. For me, I've never believed in "low carb" but I can't deny that my stomach looks leaner when I keep my carbs fairly low. Just try stuff out and see what works for you.0 -
Your diet only shows a few days of recent logging. Try logging your food consistently for a few weeks before attempting to adjust your calories. As it is, how can you possibly know how much you're eating?
I have been doing it since the end of last year, usually consistent for a few weeks and then think I can keep track in my head but eventually start gaining when I do that, so I get back on it...
I think what you thinking is right, I need to be consistent and see where that takes me...just wondering if maybe my goal shouldn't be so low...I got married in May and changed the goal to 1300 to try and push the weight loss...Maybe I should go up to 1500....0 -
Your diet only shows a few days of recent logging. Try logging your food consistently for a few weeks before attempting to adjust your calories. As it is, how can you possibly know how much you're eating?
I have been doing it since the end of last year, usually consistent for a few weeks and then think I can keep track in my head but eventually start gaining when I do that, so I get back on it...
I think what you thinking is right, I need to be consistent and see where that takes me...just wondering if maybe my goal shouldn't be so low...I got married in May and changed the goal to 1300 to try and push the weight loss...Maybe I should go up to 1500....
Personally, I would say yes, increase to 1500 and eat back exercise calories. Try it for a month and see what happens. Good luck!0 -
Can you calculate mine for me? I tried to calculate mine, and it said my BMR was over 3,400 calories to maintain my current weight, and to lose I shouldn't reduce it to no more than 1,000 calories....which still puts me at 2400 calories a day!!!! I am not comfortable with eating that much!!!! Maybe I did something wrong!!!!
CW 237.2
height : 67 inches
age: 34
Sure
5'7" 237.2lbs 34yrs old
Your estimated BMR is: 1,808 calories/day, this is what you burn if you were in a coma
Your Total Daily Energy Expenditure (TDEE) set to Sedentary is 2203 calories/day, this is what you burn just being up and about doing normal activities like showering, brushing your teeth, preparing a meal ect. If you ate this amount you would maintain your current weight.0 -
Not sure if I read if someone said this already or not, but when you calculate your TDEE -20% (or whatever percentage you take off) you don't eat your exercise calories back. TDEE is calculated based on your activity level, so exercise is already factored in.0
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I also do the Medifast, & if you follow it you should be losing. Maybe you have just hit a plateau. Make yourself a big pot of cabbage, onion, celery soup & eat it all day, it will cleanse you out. You have to eat alot of it. I don't think you should eat more, on the MFP you should be having something every 3 hours. Are you eating fruit or drinking? When I follow the MFP strictly, my weight falls off. I am following it & trying to eat low carb. doing good right now. Good luck.0
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Thanks!!!! I have been eating a range of 1300-1800 calories/day and I have seen a little weight loss....but not really an aggressive one....I have been working out 6x/week so I calculated that and it calculated to be 2300 calories to lose weight....that just seems like a whole lot!!!! As opposed to MFP calculates my eating 1520 calories a day without exercise....if I exercise, then sometimes it could be 2000 or so!!!!! I guess what really needs to be done is for me to buy a food scale and heart rate monitor!!!! But I think I should get the scale first so I can get better accuracy!!!!0
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Ill be 30 this week...5'6" and 165....yes, that is how I understood NET...I have been thinking lately to just eat 1300 and burn as much as I can without eating it back...or this other school of thought of eating more...eating more sounds like more fun! Just can't believe it would get me to my goal
There is all sorts of debate about this, but since my stats are similar I will share my experience. 29 years old, 5'7" and started at 175, have lost 33 lbs in about 9 months (technically 3 lbs below my original goal weight). Similar approach to eating - trying to eat more healthy overall but not "clean" and still have treats. I ate back my exercise calories the entire time; but I think that only works if you are honest with yourself and also have a HRM to get an accurate calorie burn with working out. I have logged every morsel/drop that crossed my lips for 295 days and counting, and I have always eaten my calories back. My weight loss has been basically linear - I lost EXACTLY how much weight I expected throughout the entire process based on my net calories.
My net calorie goal was approximately 1300 when I first started out, gradually increased to 1450 and now I have my goal set at 1550 but that is to build in some wiggle room to go over and be at my actual maintenance goal of about 1650 or 1700. I would think eating only 1300 and then not eating back your exercise calories would be too low in your case.0 -
If you have been eating at a low calorie intake I would say you may gain a little water weight at first but it is going to be healthier for you in the long run to eat past your BMR.
We need Heybales....wonder if I say his name 3 times if he will appear and help you out...
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If you do increase, mentally prepare yourself for some potential "gain" right away but it isn't real weight gain. It will be water weight and your body adjusting. Biggest way to prevent this is to increase gradually, and drink lots of water. I'd say net 1350/day for a week, then 1400/day for a week, then 1450/day, then 1500/day.
Also, consistent logging is huge - you mention you don't always stick with it. I have logged for 295 straight days now and that is a huge reason my weight loss has been successful. It's not always perfect when I eat out, or don't know portion sizes, but I at least get something in my log for every item/beverage I eat or drink.0 -
the idea that eating 'too few' calories is going to prevent you from lossing weight has just been blown way out of proportion.
if anything your going to lose a lot of muscle along with the fat and therefore lose weight faster.
if all the numbers say you should be losing, and your not.... i'm guessing your not logging very accurately.
weight/measure everything you put in your mouth for a month. if you still haven't had any weight loss, go see a doctor0 -
That's why it's HeyBales, not haybales, which is just a bunch of bad carbs.
One suggestion for several on here thinking of going this direction, which if you have a semi-consistent weekly and exercise routine, can work better as you learn to eat a set amount daily, and planning always helps to stick to goals.
If you have very irregular routine, still some help below to be more realistic in goals.
Several of these requests mention some very low calorie for the level of activity being done, for some time in the past.
And while it's hard to impossible to build muscle while in a deficit of any decent amount - it's all too easy to burn a pound or more off - that's a rough loss, because include what else goes with that lb of muscle, more blood volume, more stored glucose, ect, so more than a lb can be lost sadly. That's lost metabolism right there.
Include in to that what your body suppresses when deficit is too great, really bad combo.
What that means is the BMR estimate as the foundation of the math, and especially if overweight by 70+ lbs, could be inflated by 200-400 calories when based on age, weight, height - which has an assumed fat to non-fat ratio, which doesn't apply when overweight.
Well, you take 200-400 inflated Mifflin or Harris BMR x activity factor to get TDEE, and take off deficit, you could actually have no real deficit in place.
So eating at maintenance really. Great if you are lifting, inches will drop, strength will go up, but no loss.
So best to start math with Katch BMR based on bodyfat %.
So as to have this all in one place with best estimate of BF%, BMR, and have a better Activity Calculator that includes daily activity more than sedentary desk job for better TDEE, and an eating goal based on weight to lose and exercise type, and to track progress, you might want to use this.
Don't be shocked by the colors and what appears to be a busy screen.
5 of your stats you know. 8 measurements you should really know and track. And 4 levels of exercise type that maybe only 1 applies.
Then instructions on what to change where in MFP for eating goal and macro's.
This is all to encourage NO loss of muscle mass, but indeed lose fat and weight. You won't keep setting lifting records eating at this level if that's important. You won't keep getting faster running if that matters, except moving less weight makes you faster anyway.
This is minimum goal to maintain muscle mass. or at least get you started on that method.
Read whatever of this post you need for knowledge, link for spreadsheet at bottom.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/813720-spreadsheet-bmr-tdee-deficit-macro-calcs-hrm-zones0 -
OK, last question, how terrible would it be if those extra 150 calories every day were...lets say...more cake??? JK...kind of....no really, can it be?
Could be frosting eaten out of a jar with your fingers... calories is calories (more or less)0 -
the idea that eating 'too few' calories is going to prevent you from lossing weight has just been blown way out of proportion.
True, you can lose weight eating under your BMR, but you're likely going to feel lousy while you do it. You can lose just as well by eating a sane amount, with the added benefit that you should feel less of a need to stab anyone.0 -
OK, last question, how terrible would it be if those extra 150 calories every day were...lets say...more cake??? JK...kind of....no really, can it be?
lol yeah you can eat the cake. How far off are you from your goal weight? Do you know your body fat %?
At 5'7" and 158 lbs at about 23% body fat I can lose weight eating 2100 calories PLUS exercise calories. I lost the first 30 lbs eating about 2100 calories daily, but then I'm very active with about 2500-3500 calories burned per week through exercise. I went from 194-164 at about NET 1600.0 -
OK, last question, how terrible would it be if those extra 150 calories every day were...lets say...more cake??? JK...kind of....no really, can it be?
lol yeah you can eat the cake. How far off are you from your goal weight? Do you know your body fat %?
At 5'7" and 158 lbs at about 23% body fat I can lose weight eating 2100 calories PLUS exercise calories. I lost the first 30 lbs eating about 2100 calories daily, but then I'm very active with about 2500-3500 calories burned per week through exercise. I went from 194-164 at about NET 1600.
Its kind of a funny story about my goal weight... When I was 15, getting my driving permit, they asked my weight, and I was too embarrassed to tell the truth, so I fibbed and told them 135. I don't know how much I weighed then, probably 150ish. So, that has always been my goal, and I have never gotten there...I think 135 is a healthy weight for my height of 5'6", so I am almost 30 pounds off of it....0
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