Two weeks in and a lot of progress, but concerned

bgrojean1
bgrojean1 Posts: 13 Member
Hi everyone! I have been lurking here for a few days now and find a lot of inspiration from everyone's success stories. I've been fairly strict on my diet for the past two weeks and have been 5 day a week cardio with three of the five in strength training. Over the past two weeks I've lost 17 lbs. outstanding, right?! A part of me knows this is water weight, but another part of me is concerned that maybe that's too much too soon. Would anyone be willing to check out my diary and let me know if everything looks good or if I'm lacking somewhere?

I'm not complaining about the progress at all - haha. I also know this rate won't last so I guess I'm a bit worried for nothing... I don't know. A second eye is really appreciated.
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  • beachlover317
    beachlover317 Posts: 2,848 Member
    Your diary is private. Will be hard to comment. :smile:
  • GuybrushThreepw00d
    GuybrushThreepw00d Posts: 784 Member
    It'll level off, don't worry too much.

    What's your TDEE and your average net calories for the past 2 weeks?
  • bgrojean1
    bgrojean1 Posts: 13 Member
    Whoops. Sorry about that. True noob here. I'll open it up.

    TDEE?
  • GuybrushThreepw00d
    GuybrushThreepw00d Posts: 784 Member
    TDEE?

    Put your numbers in, and post what it says.

    http://www.fitnessfrog.com/calculators/tdee-calculator.html


    After a quick look at your diary, you're not eating back your exercise calories. When you thrash yourself running etc, then you should be eating much more calories that day.
  • bgrojean1
    bgrojean1 Posts: 13 Member
    Ah. - got it. Thanks!

    TDEE 4213
    Avg net calories: 1123
  • beachlover317
    beachlover317 Posts: 2,848 Member
    Just glanced at your diary. I didn't "check" your foods because I believe to be successful you have to eat what you like (within reason). Just make sure you have a general idea of what your TDEE is and then eat at a deficit of that number. You always lose fast for the first couple of weeks. It will stabilize and losing about 1 to 1.5 pounds a week would be awesome.

    My best advice? Make changes to improve your overall health (exercise that you will do & eating foods that are healthy with snacks & treats thrown in for good measure). People who deny themselves all the foods they love, never learn portion control and rarely keep the weight off for the long haul. If you choose health every day - then you won't ever have a "finish line" - you will just be living the life that will keep you at a healthy weight. Best of luck!

    ETA: 1100 cals is awfully low for a man. A deficit of 15 - 20 % from your TDEE works for most people.
  • bgrojean1
    bgrojean1 Posts: 13 Member
    Ok, so it's not good to be under my calorie goal then - that's what is was starting to think. The first week I was proud of myself for it and then I realized, "duh, you need calories to live". So ok, that makes absolute sense.

    Need fuel to lose I suppose.
  • GuybrushThreepw00d
    GuybrushThreepw00d Posts: 784 Member
    Ah. - got it. Thanks!

    TDEE 4213
    Avg net calories: 1123

    So you're eating 26.6% of your TDEE.

    That's not great. Ideally you should not drop below 70% of your TDEE.
    Lots of people suggest TDEE-20%.
  • bgrojean1
    bgrojean1 Posts: 13 Member
    I've had a fun time finding different foods that I never really had eaten before. A lot of fun stuff that's healthy. I am taking a closer look at what I buy at the grocery store as well as the portions and number of meals per day. I haven't really craved anything except coffee. But have had a few cups the last few day with a packet of sugar in the raw (one packet per day) - never any creamer (never was a creamer fan). One little vice, I suppose. Other than that I'm a tea and water guy anyways. Good stuff.

    Thanks for the help here. I'm finding a groove and a comfort zone for everything. This has been fun and challenging. Reading the success stories on this site really is driving me aside from a number of other personal factors. Thanks! :-)
  • bgrojean1
    bgrojean1 Posts: 13 Member
    Eat more? No problem... Hahaha. But of course ill keep it within reason and healthy. Thanks for the help. Little adjustments at the beginning will help me stay on track for the long term.
  • joleenl
    joleenl Posts: 739 Member
    Ah. - got it. Thanks!

    TDEE 4213
    Avg net calories: 1123

    So you're eating 26.6% of your TDEE.

    That's not great. Ideally you should not drop below 70% of your TDEE.
    Lots of people suggest TDEE-20%.

    ^^ This and it is common to lose lots in the first couple weeks of starting a healhier lifestyle/diet. I lost like 8 or 9 pounds in my first two weeks then it tapered off to less then 2 pounds a week. After a few months of that it further slowed down to between 0.5 and 1 pound a week. Now it moves at a snails pace of less then 0.5 pounds a week. I still have at least 20 to 40 pounds to lose so it's very frustrating.
  • jaecamp1
    jaecamp1 Posts: 120 Member
    If you up your calories a bit you'll still lose. You have lots of room there compared with what you've been eating. The way I see it though, 17 lbs lost is very different for someone who is real big compared to someone who is average or small to start with (I'm assuming from your ticker you aren't a tiny thing ;) ) When we started, my husband got sick and lost 17 lbs in a week (he started at 340) and we decided to keep that ball rolling. I would just say as long as you're being mindful and eating healthy it'll just come off. Just make sure you're doing something sustainable. He generally eats between 2500-3000 a day, no exercise and is down 52 now. Its not a race :) and btw your little girl is a cutie!
  • Vivian06703188
    Vivian06703188 Posts: 310 Member
    I had a hugh loss in the beginning and after about two weeks my loss slowed down a lot. It is discouraging when you don't see the changes as fast.
  • mjrkearney
    mjrkearney Posts: 408 Member
    Holy mother of sodium!?! How do you.... No!

    In the meantime, you want to get as close to your calories and macros as you can. Being over (or very over) on protein is grand. Being consistently over a little bit on your calories is fine. It just means you'll be losing slightly slower. Unless you consistently go over your TDEE, which is what got most of us here in the first place. Your goals are based on a deficit calculated by the site. Going seriously under means you're not getting the fuel your body needs to function. Your body needs all of the nutrients that come with the macros for digestion, repair work, and the like. Even the carbs and fats.
  • BernadetteChurch
    BernadetteChurch Posts: 2,210 Member
    As most others have said, use up all those calories. You do need them!

    Your diary looks OK to me but I'll also throw in that you don't need to eat "diet" foods to lose weight. Eat real foods and prepare from scratch as best you can. Learn portion control and you'll find you can eat just about anything with a bit of planning. Depriving yourself of things you enjoy can work against you in the long run.
  • bgrojean1
    bgrojean1 Posts: 13 Member
    If you up your calories a bit you'll still lose. You have lots of room there compared with what you've been eating. The way I see it though, 17 lbs lost is very different for someone who is real big compared to someone who is average or small to start with (I'm assuming from your ticker you aren't a tiny thing ;) ) When we started, my husband got sick and lost 17 lbs in a week (he started at 340) and we decided to keep that ball rolling. I would just say as long as you're being mindful and eating healthy it'll just come off. Just make sure you're doing something sustainable. He generally eats between 2500-3000 a day, no exercise and is down 52 now. Its not a race :) and btw your little girl is a cutie!

    Yeah, started off at 295.6 and had a coming to reality moment. I've been working from home exclusively for the past two years and started to see colds taking longer to end, being light winded after stairs and such. No such problems any longer and that's motivation in itself. I'm a shorty at 5'7" so my BMI is way out of whack, but getting under 200 would be a huge accomplishment. Im only 30 so now is the perfect time to get back to wrestling and football form back in HS. Want to see my daughter get married and have kids one day... Motivation in itself. My mom passed when I was 20 due to complications from GBS (MS) and Crohns and her mom passed when she was a teen due to cancer. I'm kicking the "tradition". That is the ultimate driver in this. Plus having to consistently buy larger clothes is a real hit to my self esteem.

    I guess I was confused on calorie consumption with exercise. So as long as my calorie goal is hit each day I'm ok or should I try to make my calories remaining zero out everyday?
  • bgrojean1
    bgrojean1 Posts: 13 Member
    Holy mother of sodium!?! How do you.... No!

    In the meantime, you want to get as close to your calories and macros as you can. Being over (or very over) on protein is grand. Being consistently over a little bit on your calories is fine. It just means you'll be losing slightly slower. Unless you consistently go over your TDEE, which is what got most of us here in the first place. Your goals are based on a deficit calculated by the site. Going seriously under means you're not getting the fuel your body needs to function. Your body needs all of the nutrients that come with the macros for digestion, repair work, and the like. Even the carbs and fats.

    I am making everything from scratch and have been exploiting the EatYourselfSkinny.com blog for recipes. I had a bad sodium day a few days ago, but I think I'm on track there... So your reaction - good or bad? Haha
  • shaunap3
    shaunap3 Posts: 206 Member
    The heavier you are the faster you'll lose.
    Men also lose much easier than women.
    My father lost 14lb in two weeks by ONLY changing what he was eating.
    Just make sure you meet your calorie requirements, meet your protein requirements, and just make healthy choices. :)
  • determinedbutlazy
    determinedbutlazy Posts: 1,941 Member
    I love this thread. People give sensible advice, OP agrees and thanks them. IS THIS REAL LIFE?

    Also, I agree, you should be operating on your TDEE-20% if possible. If you're sticking to TDEE-20% then you don't "eat back" exercise calories as they're already included in your calorie allowance.
  • harleygroomer
    harleygroomer Posts: 373 Member
    Men usually lose MORE than women and sometimes at faster paces. I wouldn't worry unless your BIDY tells you to slow down and believe me--IT WILL
  • Mcgrawhaha
    Mcgrawhaha Posts: 1,596 Member
    the first 3 or 4 weeks, my husband lost a HUGE CHUNK of weight! after that, he slowed down to about 1 pound a week.
  • katekross
    katekross Posts: 463 Member
    A lot happens those first few weeks, your body is pretty confused! I think its pretty normal. It will slow down pretty soon, but keep up with being awesome! Good luck :)
  • bgrojean1
    bgrojean1 Posts: 13 Member
    Thanks everyone for the posts. This site is one heck of a support group; I'm loving it. I will lurk no longer. Haha

    Questions:

    1. Looking back at my foods eaten I've noticed sodium is high where I thought it wouldn't be. Any suggestions of low sodium snacks and lunches? That's where I'm struggling with sodium.

    2. Do I eat until my "calories remaining" is zero or do I each until I eat my "food calorie goal" for the day is met?

    I have no problem eating more - that's what got me into this mess in the first place. The hardest habit to beat was end loading - eating a lot at the end of the day. I've shifted that pretty well to morning and lunch and haven't struggled so much there.

    Thanks again for all of the help. Once I get this all down I will have a lot of paying it forward. I appreciate it! :-) What's even more awesome - advice provided both internationally and domestic, that's very cool.
  • seltzermint555
    seltzermint555 Posts: 10,740 Member
    I'd say be mindful of any weakness you may feel, physically or mentally, and go much closer to the recommended calories for weight loss provided by MFP. Men do lose weight very quickly a lot of times, but too sudden can be really dangerous. There are some medical concerns that aren't often mentioned...my best friend's husband (healthy, slightly overweight 37 yr old man) lost 26 lb in 1 month and developed problems with his body that required weekly trips to a urologist. His urologist and GP agreed that the weight loss was partly responsible.

    Just be careful!
  • jaecamp1
    jaecamp1 Posts: 120 Member
    Thanks everyone for the posts. This site is one heck of a support group; I'm loving it. I will lurk no longer. Haha

    Questions:

    1. Looking back at my foods eaten I've noticed sodium is high where I thought it wouldn't be. Any suggestions of low sodium snacks and lunches? That's where I'm struggling with sodium.

    2. Do I eat until my "calories remaining" is zero or do I each until I eat my "food calorie goal" for the day is met?

    I have no problem eating more - that's what got me into this mess in the first place. The hardest habit to beat was end loading - eating a lot at the end of the day. I've shifted that pretty well to morning and lunch and haven't struggled so much there.

    Thanks again for all of the help. Once I get this all down I will have a lot of paying it forward. I appreciate it! :-) What's even more awesome - advice provided both internationally and domestic, that's very cool.

    1. The sodium probably has a lot to do with the pre packaged stuff. That's usually crazy with it. If you make the same thing fresh I'd bet that will fix that :)
    2. The goal mfp gives you for calories is based on what you select for your regular activity level and your goal but doesn't include extra exercise. Some people log and eat back those calories because they are extra. Personally I dont, but I'm also not going crazy at the gym and such. I just take it as a bonus. I figure if I'm working hard to get those calories off, it is because I don't want them on my body :).
  • pbsue
    pbsue Posts: 12
    I read through the responses and agree with the TDEE and BMR advice. When execising, eat back at least enough calories to ALWAYS be above your BMR.

    Also, check out the Fitness Pal (fp) group: eat more to weigh less. There are good videos on you tube and advice in fp.

    Advice there will help you make a custom setting in fp to include your exercise calories...that's a good idea, then you only have to watch to be above your BMR. And your calorie goal will be consistent each day. I accept that all this helps protect our metabolism for health and continued weight loss.

    fp is probably setting your calories too low and then you also have to play games with exercise calories. I just got started with the custom setting when I had a bunch of dental issues, so I have been off the whole program a while. Still, it sounds right to me and I know I have dieted with too big a calorie deficit many times in my life to the detriment of my metabolism.

    I too find all the support here great... Go Community!
  • GuybrushThreepw00d
    GuybrushThreepw00d Posts: 784 Member
    1. Looking back at my foods eaten I've noticed sodium is high where I thought it wouldn't be. Any suggestions of low sodium snacks and lunches? That's where I'm struggling with sodium.

    Too much to list. Start poking around people's diaries that have them open.
    My personal favourite for lunch is a whole roast chicken with a side salad.
    2. Do I eat until my "calories remaining" is zero or do I each until I eat my "food calorie goal" for the day is met?
    calories remaining
  • cornfritter22
    cornfritter22 Posts: 230 Member
    I love this thread. People give sensible advice, OP agrees and thanks them. IS THIS REAL LIFE?

    Also, I agree, you should be operating on your TDEE-20% if possible. If you're sticking to TDEE-20% then you don't "eat back" exercise calories as they're already included in your calorie allowance.

    Right there with you. This thread is a joy to read!
  • wswilliams67
    wswilliams67 Posts: 938 Member
    It will definitely level off and yes TDEE-20% is a very safe and maintainable goal. Just remember the loss will be slow and steady, which is what you want. Good luck.
  • Otterluv
    Otterluv Posts: 9,083 Member
    Thanks everyone for the posts. This site is one heck of a support group; I'm loving it. I will lurk no longer. Haha

    Questions:

    1. Looking back at my foods eaten I've noticed sodium is high where I thought it wouldn't be. Any suggestions of low sodium snacks and lunches? That's where I'm struggling with sodium.

    You probably don't really need to worry too much about sodium, unless you have a medical condition. High sodium can cause waterweight, but it's a temporary issue.
    2. Do I eat until my "calories remaining" is zero or do I each until I eat my "food calorie goal" for the day is met?

    I have no problem eating more - that's what got me into this mess in the first place. The hardest habit to beat was end loading - eating a lot at the end of the day. I've shifted that pretty well to morning and lunch and haven't struggled so much there.

    Thanks again for all of the help. Once I get this all down I will have a lot of paying it forward. I appreciate it! :-) What's even more awesome - advice provided both internationally and domestic, that's very cool.

    Sometimes the calories burned amounts in the database are a bit high, I tend to shoot for eating around 75% of my exercise cals (I just change the number on the entry to 75% of what it says initially).

    You don't have to worry too much about hitting the exact number every day, weight loss is more about averages.

    What time of day doesn't effect weight loss, unless it's impacting your behavior in some way (leading to binges, feeling like crud so it impacts workouts, etc.).

    I'm a major proponent of eating as much as you can while still losing, it'll help you later and it's much more sustainable.

    I weigh and measure my food, it helps me make sure that I'm hitting my macros and that my portions aren't starting to get "optimistic". A food scale is best for dry foods, measuring cups can be a bit inaccurate.

    Good for you for lifting! That, hitting your protein numbers (I think the goal is around 1 gram per lb of your LBM), and losing slowly is going to help you maintain LBM and make you much happier with the body you end up with at your goal weight.

    Edited to add: I've done the TDEE - 20% method, it works well if your exercise is pretty consistent. MFP numbers (when you eat back your exercise cals, as it was designed) come out roughly the same for me. But, my summer is full of long hikes and other adventures, so my exercise cals are really inconsistent.