Binging

it happens to me too. I figure i lose sight of my goal because i love food so much and stress etc plays a large part in it. Just do the best you can do! Cliche but its true...tmw is a new day! hey, at least you start exercising and eating right again after a binge...that more than a lot of people can say right? Allow yourself a cheat day every once in a while...hopefully it will stave off the binge eating

I don't agree with the cheat day. I think it acts like a reward system for "behaving well" all week, and then you reward yourself with food. Bad idea and a bad habit to get into. A cheat meal can destroy your whole weeks effort. I think at this stage of the game, You need to focus on portions and control. Eat what you would normally eat and cut it in half. At this point you want to teach your body signals, when you're full for example, I wouldn't jump head first into a strict 1200 calorie a day diet and kill it in the gym,. You'll lose motivation for sure. Start small, little achievable goals, break up your meals to 5-6 six smaller ones, start cutting back on the fats, butter, switch to whole grains, small steps, will help with bingeing, You're feeling like you're "dieting" which can bring on a binge, if you feel deprived you're going to fail. So instead try another way, there's no right or wrong way to healthy eating. It's whatever steps you need to take to get you there. If that means, cutting back to one fried egg instead of two and then going to soft boiled eggs, that's a start, those little changs will make a big difference. Make sure you're hydrated, drink water before you eat anything. Hope I helped you a little! Good luck!...remember nothig is off limits, it becomes a prblem when you get it set in your head that you can't have it....that's when the real problems begin. With time your body will adjust to the changes and the cravings and binges will eventaully stop, not an easy process and there's no quick fixes.

I am in the exact same situation as you!! I have been so strick for just about 2 weeks and tonight has been a major binge night!!! I hate it!!! I do not understand myself!!!!! I want to lose weight soooo bad but it is so easy for me to lose motivation!!!

A cheat "meal", cannot destroy an entire weeks of work, unless you've hardly done any work and or decide it would be a great time to eat 7000 calories in one setting. Just sayin'. We could have different definitions of what a cheat meal or day is however. But most of everything else you said is correctt for standard weight loss procedures. Like i said already, a binge will come around when you've micromanaged (extreme dieted, went too far for too long) and finally lose it out of trying to maintain such a rigid disciplin. There is nothing wrong with rewarding yourself upon surpassing a desired goal, as long as its managed. (Because its possible to have a cheat meal, something you want, within your daily calorie intake. possibly slightly above as it does help break a plateau if you've been undereating).

I agree with this. Yet I do it, all the time. It's probably one of the reasons I've been at a stand still.


It can ruin a whole weeks worth of effort, I see it in the gym everyday...it's not uncommon for people to eat in excess of 1000 calories in a meal, which usually leads to guilt which then leads to poor choices the rest of the day, because the "well I blew it" mentality carries over. A cheat day or meal, whatever you want to call it, is a very bad idea for someone who's just starting out or has lots of weight to lose. If you want to justify it as being ok, go right ahead, but don't tell me I don't know what i'm talking about,. I see it everyday.

A cheat "meal", cannot destroy an entire weeks of work, unless you've hardly done any work and or decide it would be a great time to eat 7000 calories in one setting. Just sayin'. We could have different definitions of what a cheat meal or day is however. But most of everything else you said is correctt for standard weight loss procedures. Like i said already, a binge will come around when you've micromanaged (extreme dieted, went too far for too long) and finally lose it out of trying to maintain such a rigid disciplin. There is nothing wrong with rewarding yourself upon surpassing a desired goal, as long as its managed. (Because its possible to have a cheat meal, something you want, within your daily calorie intake. possibly slightly above as it does help break a plateau if you've been undereating).

It can ruin a whole weeks worth of effort, I see it in the gym everyday...it's not uncommon for people to eat in excess of 1000 calories in a meal, which usually leads to guilt which then leads to poor choices the rest of the day, because the "well I blew it" mentality carries over. A cheat day or meal, whatever you want to call it, is a very bad idea for someone who's just starting out or has lots of weight to lose. If you want to justify it as being ok, go right ahead, but don't tell me I don't know what i'm talking about,. I see it everyday.

When I first started out at 440lbs. I was eating at 1200 calories daily, for the first month. I'm pretty sure I know ALOT more about willpower then you ever will. Sorry, until you actually post a picture of your "before" I wouldn't believe that you were ever overweight. That's just my opionion anyway, whether you like it or not.

What you see in the Gym everyday is a bunch of people who don't know the first thing about nutrition, pure and simple. (Talkin' about the ones that suddeenly explode once they step off their diet, unless they're in competition shape, then its expected and they already know what will happen) They are the people that come in there and hit the bench press or the squat machine, and then go grab a mcdonalds cheeseburger for a post workout meal and eat like crap to begin with and complain about no gains when they have a "cheat" meal, that happens to have been 2 xtra large pizza's. Wondering why they aren't seeing proper gains or a weight loss Or they are the ridiculous person that got into the stupid mentality of being so rigid and inflexible with their diet that they literally burn themselves out because of people like you, when they're in their first stage of learning their own personal habits. News flash, what works for you, does not work for others. You should know this, which is also why you cannot preach against it. We all know what methods(methods=MORE THAN ONE WAY IS RIGHT) it takes to see results, not everyone is capable of following straight through with those methods and some methods are MORE extreme then others.

I have my own diet plans, one for extreme results, and one that I can maintain a steady weight loss/ not gain weight/fat while eating healthy and still having what I would like.

and to Beautiful, falling off the wagon has nothing to do with having a meal you will enjoy (franky I enjoy my meals to begin with but yeah..) falling off the wagon comes from someone that didn't properly learn how to change their lifestyle and their eating habit to begin with. They picked up a trend diet or really stupid advice from someone that didn't work for them, so they gave up. plain and simple.

Edit: Your will power = your results. Long term and otherwise. If yyour will power is so weak that looking at a doughtnut breaks you into a month long habit of overeating, that is only your fault. sorry.

A cheat "meal", cannot destroy an entire weeks of work, unless you've hardly done any work and or decide it would be a great time to eat 7000 calories in one setting. Just sayin'. We could have different definitions of what a cheat meal or day is however. But most of everything else you said is correctt for standard weight loss procedures. Like i said already, a binge will come around when you've micromanaged (extreme dieted, went too far for too long) and finally lose it out of trying to maintain such a rigid disciplin. There is nothing wrong with rewarding yourself upon surpassing a desired goal, as long as its managed. (Because its possible to have a cheat meal, something you want, within your daily calorie intake. possibly slightly above as it does help break a plateau if you've been undereating).

It can ruin a whole weeks worth of effort, I see it in the gym everyday...it's not uncommon for people to eat in excess of 1000 calories in a meal, which usually leads to guilt which then leads to poor choices the rest of the day, because the "well I blew it" mentality carries over. A cheat day or meal, whatever you want to call it, is a very bad idea for someone who's just starting out or has lots of weight to lose. If you want to justify it as being ok, go right ahead, but don't tell me I don't know what i'm talking about,. I see it everyday.

When I first started out at 440lbs. I was eating at 1200 calories daily, for the first month. I'm pretty sure I know ALOT more about willpower then you ever will. Sorry, until you actually post a picture of your "before" I wouldn't believe that you were ever overweight. That's just my opionion anyway, whether you like it or not.

What you see in the Gym everyday is a bunch of people who don't know the first thing about nutrition, pure and simple. (Talkin' about the ones that suddeenly explode once they step off their diet, unless they're in competition shape, then its expected and they already know what will happen) They are the people that come in there and hit the bench press or the squat machine, and then go grab a mcdonalds cheeseburger for a post workout meal and eat like crap to begin with and complain about no gains when they have a "cheat" meal, that happens to have been 2 xtra large pizza's. Wondering why they aren't seeing proper gains or a weight loss Or they are the ridiculous person that got into the stupid mentality of being so rigid and inflexible with their diet that they literally burn themselves out because of people like you, when they're in their first stage of learning their own personal habits. News flash, what works for you, does not work for others. You should know this, which is also why you cannot preach against it. We all know what methods(methods=MORE THAN ONE WAY IS RIGHT) it takes to see results, not everyone is capable of following straight through with those methods and some methods are MORE extreme then others.

I have my own diet plans, one for extreme results, and one that I can maintain a steady weight loss/ not gain weight/fat while eating healthy and still having what I would like.

and to Beautiful, falling off the wagon has nothing to do with having a meal you will enjoy (franky I enjoy my meals to begin with but yeah..) falling off the wagon comes from someone that didn't properly learn how to change their lifestyle and their eating habit to begin with. They picked up a trend diet or really stupid advice from someone that didn't work for them, so they gave up. plain and simple.

My, you are full of yourself, 400 lbs or not, you have no right to judge anyone. I couldn't give a flying rat's a** if you don't believe I was ever overweight, I don't need to prove anything to you. You make quite the genera ljudgement call on peoples behaviours and lifestyles yet you know nothing about them.. If you were successfull with your weight loss and you want to share tips that's fantastic, but you can leave the know it all attitude at the door, it's not needed. Falling off the wagon can definitely be a result of a cheat meal, as I stated before, it starts off as an innocent meal, and can lead to further calorie consumption because of guilt or whatever have you, whatever justification someone wants to throw out there. As far as the gym goes, have you interviewed everyone there? again your opinion, and right now it's meaning squat to me. I can't respect someone who has no respect for anothers opinion. There's people from all walks of life there, cardiologists, nutritionists, police officers, stay at home moms, the fact that you lost 400 pounds doesn't make you an expert on what will work for everyone, only for you. And for the record, I didn't get the way I am now by having cheat meals, hard work and dedication got me there.

Oh and to stop taking over this post, you are more than welcome to flame me in Pms if you would like. doesn't matter to me either way I already added what's worked for me in the past.

that is so me this week i think its from not smoking i need to get it under control, just a thought anytime you over eat its bad for you. God calls it gluttony:sick: it one of the ten major sins.it makes you gain alot of weight witch is the number on killer out theri it shows God is right again:flowerforyou:

I will play devils advocate. Do you think that a cheat meal will not harm you, will not hurt all your efforts, your healthy habits and meals?

Think again! Would you do the same thing to your marriage or relationship? Would you cheat on your wife, husband BF or GF just once becaue it will not hurt.

It is a matter of self respect, control, and commitment to your health and eating habits. Temptations are everywhere, they can not be avoided BUT we do have control on how we react to them.

We should eat to live, not live to eat.

Oohh I got one for that, is masterbation cheating in the relationship?! :O I mean its with yourself after all.. much like your diet.. okay i'll stop joking around.

Anywho I did say to "plan" the cheat meal if you're going to have one to "Control" the possibility of binging from being overly strict. and to me (as in, myself, me a lone) no, I don't feel that a cheat meal of my choosing will harm my own diet. Because I have the power to pick up my diet as normal the next day and to not feel guilty about giving myself something that would be off my normal menu. Because my standard diet alone will carry me to my goals and because out of habit I workout as hard as I possibly can each workout. One day, does not equal my lifetime results. Consistent good habits equal my lifetime results.

cheating dose not mean,gluttony but if we were not gluattonos we would not have to lose weight :noway: shes right people are not going to stay true to a diet like they would to a relationship,if you do cheat plan it and make it small:huh: no ex large milkshake a small one

I didn't read everyone elses reply.. so sorry, in advance, if I repeat something already said

IMO, log it. Log every single thing you binged on every time you bing. For me that has helping a ton - just seeing how many cals I really am comsumming then also asking myself "did I really need that?" and learning that binging is not going to help me fill in a gap left by the weeks/lifes issues.

It is a bad cycle... I've done it and can't say that it won't happen again... but the first step is not wanting to do it anymore.

Hang in there, and log it if it happens. I don't take a day off/cheat day.. cause if I take one.. that leaves my mind open to take more. I think taking a cheap/day off depends on the individual.
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A cheat "meal", cannot destroy an entire weeks of work, unless you've hardly done any work and or decide it would be a great time to eat 7000 calories in one setting. Just sayin'. We could have different definitions of what a cheat meal or day is however. But most of everything else you said is correctt for standard weight loss procedures. Like i said already, a binge will come around when you've micromanaged (extreme dieted, went too far for too long) and finally lose it out of trying to maintain such a rigid disciplin. There is nothing wrong with rewarding yourself upon surpassing a desired goal, as long as its managed. (Because its possible to have a cheat meal, something you want, within your daily calorie intake. possibly slightly above as it does help break a plateau if you've been undereating).

All depends what the cheat meal is and how often. Some people are cheating regularly, stuffing their faces and then moaning "oh the weight is not shifting, have I reached a plateau, should I eat more to kickstart my metabolism" WTH???

Eating cheats is what got us here in the first place, personally if anybody thinks I am going back to that way of eating, they can think again.

3500 extra calories is needed to put on 1lb, a couple of big Macs and chips (fries) - don't like to think how many in that little pile of grease. A portion of battered fish and chips - over 1000 calories. A large pizza from Dominos - hazard a guess.....

The list is endless and cheating can ruin weeks and weeks of hard effort. How? Because suddenly consuming large amount of carbs will make the eater crave more and eat more they will.

Iamagymrat is totally correct, the person has broken their eating plan and so may as well continue breaking it for the day and by gum they will break it bigtime, because you see, they know that going back onto it from "tomorrow", they will be unable to have these lovely "treats" that they have missed so much.

A change in thinking is what is required, a lifestyle change. The little lightbulb needs to go on in their heads so that they realise that eating correctly benefits them mentally as well as physically, but until they see it for themselves, nothing, anybody will say will make a jot of difference.

Those high carb foods that make a person crave more are addictive in their nature and for a person trying so desperately to lose weight, they are, in effect, poison.

In reference to your later posting, you quoted:

Oohh I got one for that, is masterbation cheating in the relationship?! :O I mean its with yourself after all.. much like your diet.. okay i'll stop joking around.

Anywho I did say to "plan" the cheat meal if you're going to have one to "Control" the possibility of binging from being overly strict. and to me (as in, myself, me a lone) no, I don't feel that a cheat meal of my choosing will harm my own diet. Because I have the power to pick up my diet as normal the next day and to not feel guilty about giving myself something that would be off my normal menu. Because my standard diet alone will carry me to my goals and because out of habit I workout as hard as I possibly can each workout. One day, does not equal my lifetime results. Consistent good habits equal my lifetime results.

You are very fortunate that you can pick up where you left off, I too can do that now, but a hell of a lot of people cannot do that and it is these people that are desperate for the help. You don't feel guilty, well they do.

It is not the actual cheat food that is the issue here, but the mentality that will surround it after it is consumed.